Pic of a cool OG Kush seedling

CannaBruh

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I believe it is the old East Coast Sour Diesel. Like Motarebel uses in his crosses all these years.

Comes out heavy all the time in my hybrids.

I have some old Gryphon seeds that were stubborn to germinate but they are original G-13 x ECSD.

It is likely my favorite plant hat I can not seem to grow. Lol.
She throws bananas but she's worth it, it took me a few years to find it but it's out there

If you want to see weird seedlings grow out some Molokai frost since you're a Mota fan. I still have some Dirty Harry that have been on ice for probably 12+ years that need ran... as well as a few packs of those Molokai (I think they were freebies)
 

MichiganMedGrower

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She throws bananas but she's worth it, it took me a few years to find it but it's out there

If you want to see weird seedlings grow out some Molokai frost since you're a Mota fan. I still have some Dirty Harry that have been on ice for probably 12+ years that need ran... as well as a few packs of those Molokai (I think they were freebies)
Yes. All her best phenos seem to grow late nanners. But I have never seen more than a few seeds result.

I have never tried Dirty Harry.
 

BobCajun

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I have some Nirvana Chrystal plants going, and that's supposed to be high yielder. If i don't get any high yielding OGs I might just induce male flowers on one and cross it with the other. Chrystal itself is very resinous so it should actually be a good cross, which nobody has done before, at least not that anybody knows about. Since Chrystal is a fairly obscure strain, it's unlikely it was ever done before. So what you would have then is (NL5/WW bx NL5) x (Lemon Thai/Paki KushxChemdawg). All the best shit combined into a super-strain of legendary proportions, the Chrystal Kush. And those plants they crossed were the real ones from back when they were still good. Now most WW and NL is pretty average. You don't really see WWs that are white with crystals like when it first came out. Looks like a completely different strain now.
 
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coreywebster

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Bob I'm sure you will like the OG, its one of my favourites. Not a fussy strain, liked a bit more nutrients than some. I found it to be mid yield, nothing huge but not what you would call small. Was a very squat plant. The taste and smell was lovely.
I think dinafem are pretty stable.
 

BobCajun

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Bob I'm sure you will like the OG, its one of my favourites. Not a fussy strain, liked a bit more nutrients than some. I found it to be mid yield, nothing huge but not what you would call small. Was a very squat plant. The taste and smell was lovely.
I think dinafem are pretty stable.
Okay, I may be able to use it as is then. Did you find it outstandingly potent or anything? Or was it like "normal" weed? And have you tried GG and compared the two? Never tried it myself. I live in a area that doesn't get many new strains like that and nowhere to buy clones.
 

coreywebster

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Okay, I may be able to use it as is then. Did you find it outstandingly potent or anything? Or was it like "normal" weed? And have you tried GG and compared the two? Never tried it myself. I live in a area that doesn't get many new strains like that and nowhere to buy clones.
I live in England so the only strains I get are what I buy from seed and I havn't been able to get the GG and never tasted it either so I cant compare. The OG though was strong and very dense buds, like rock hard, sound like stone if you drop them on a wooden table. I liked it because I found it relaxing without twanging me out like some strains tend to do. Everyone I know loved it. Only negative I saw was it took me twice as long to clone but got there in the end.
 

BobCajun

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I live in England so the only strains I get are what I buy from seed and I havn't been able to get the GG and never tasted it either so I cant compare. The OG though was strong and very dense buds, like rock hard, sound like stone if you drop them on a wooden table. I liked it because I found it relaxing without twanging me out like some strains tend to do. Everyone I know loved it. Only negative I saw was it took me twice as long to clone but got there in the end.
Rock hard huh? How about harshness? A rock hard bud sounds like a possibly harsh bud. I suppose you would have mentioned that if so. Usually my buds are only hard like that after I compress them some. Your description is encouraging though. It should be able to stack up against any other premium strain around, which is what I was looking for.
 

coreywebster

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I never found it harsh at all, pretty smooth. But harshness is one of those things that's personal taste I think, providing the cure isn't skipped. I always think hazes are really harsh and pineapple strains, I have not had one that didn't give me a bit of a raw throat, yet everyone else I know loves them and loves the taste.
 

BobCajun

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I never found it harsh at all, pretty smooth. But harshness is one of those things that's personal taste I think, providing the cure isn't skipped. I always think hazes are really harsh and pineapple strains, I have not had one that didn't give me a bit of a raw throat, yet everyone else I know loves them and loves the taste.
Thanks for the info, you're very helpful. I've had strains that tend to be harsh so I'm hoping to get one that's not. Sure is hard trying to find a strain that doesn't have something going against it. They're either stretchy, weak, harsh, slow growing or some other thing. I've tried so many strains that just were not satisfactory that it's ridiculous. Threw so many away. Still looking, hope the Dina OG is it. I have 3 seedlings so three tickets to the good weed lottery. Hope one pays off.
 

Johnei

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I have some Nirvana Chrystal plants going, and that's supposed to be high yielder. If i don't get any high yielding OGs I might just induce male flowers on one and cross it with the other. Chrystal itself is very resinous so it should actually be a good cross, which nobody has done before, at least not that anybody knows about. Since Chrystal is a fairly obscure strain, it's unlikely it was ever done before. So what you would have then is (NL5/WW bx NL5) x (Lemon Thai/Paki KushxChemdawg). All the best shit combined into a super-strain of legendary proportions, the Chrystal Kush. And those plants they crossed were the real ones from back when they were still good. Now most WW and NL is pretty average. You don't really see WWs that are white with crystals like when it first came out. Looks like a completely different strain now.
That cross sounds fabulous, and I know man, compared to back in the day any widow I've seen in the flesh, it just aint the same, absolutely, it's like any strain that people have that have a white look, and dont know what it is or some shit, they call white widow, Messin things up. I've never had a high yielding OG, but to be fair I've only grown a few different ones, and the best tastiest super potent with complex high OG's I've had are always tall lanky low yielders, but the best herb on the planet. Anyway, just some blahblah that was in my head while reading you guys chatting. Good Growing. cya. cool little plant, crazy F'n leaves man, for an OG. Ducksfoot crossed with that I contemplate what could be.. ducksfoot weak low thc, crossed to somethin like that, maybe unrecognizable marijuana leaf shape with OG potenty bred in there. Call it BlackOps OG..lol StealthOG..
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BobCajun

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That cross sounds fabulous, and I know man, compared to back in the day any widow I've seen in the flesh, it just aint the same, absolutely, it's like any strain that people have that have a white look, and dont know what it is or some shit, they call white widow, Messin things up. I've never had a high yielding OG, but to be fair I've only grown a few different ones, and the best tastiest super potent with complex high OG's I've had are always tall lanky low yielders, but the best herb on the planet. Anyway, just some blahblah that was in my head while reading you guys chatting. Good Growing. cya. cool little plant, crazy F'n leaves man, for an OG. Ducksfoot crossed with that I contemplate what could be.. ducksfoot weak low thc, crossed to somethin like that, maybe unrecognizable marijuana leaf shape with OG potenty bred in there. Call it BlackOps OG..lol StealthOG..
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Maybe OG is like Chemdawg itself, better for breeding than growing on its own. I have one freakishly short internode Chrystal pheno that should be great for shortening up any stretchers bred with it. Got 4 plants, 3 all the same stretchiness, the 4h completely shorter, like 1" internodes still at 5.5 weeks. Never seen a strain with that short of internodes before in my life. Good looking buds so far too. mIght even be a good keeper just as is if it turns out potent enough. If not, I'll have to kick it up by breeding it with the OG.

Ever see anything like that, 1" internodes in flowering? This could be one of those finds that turns out to be a big step forward in strain breeding, like the Chemdawg. There are freakishly high potency strains around but not that many freakishly short ones. Guess there might have to be some backcrossing to get the shortness characteristic to stick though.
 
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Johnei

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Tryin to think, what is the shortest, no-auto strain.. hmmmmm.. cant think of anything but Lowrider, but it's auto.. i dunno man.

1" internodes, ya mean in flower hardly any stretch? maybe it will get some monster girth to those nugs n pack it on fat all connected nice. other phenos spread out, that one compressed same power smaller space? just brainfarting out loud.

Only time i had a strain that no matter what size pot or anything, it would never stretch just pack on wide fat buds, but potency was the worst in my life on that strain, its like hairy bush weed style, doesn't get fat calyxes or anything when done, pure hairy bush..lol.. is Kong.. i have pics of the shitiest plants i ever grew in my Katsu thread in sig.. little fat fuckers flowered in 5.5 Kord square pots.. i always thought that strain had somethin good inside it, needed to breed with somethin else that was potent..
Kong.. LOL this strain makes me laugh it's so fucked up..lol
.edit-...and I've never seen it anywhere on the web, any forum any talk about it, I've never heard shit about Kong, bought 10seeds for $100 back in the day at some dispensary, and about a month later, that dispensary went down, and like 6 others.. KONG...LOL.. you ugly bitch of a strain you.
 

BobCajun

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Tryin to think, what is the shortest, no-auto strain.. hmmmmm.. cant think of anything but Lowrider, but it's auto.. i dunno man.

1" internodes, ya mean in flower hardly any stretch? maybe it will get some monster girth to those nugs n pack it on fat all connected nice. other phenos spread out, that one compressed same power smaller space? just brainfarting out loud.

Only time i had a strain that no matter what size pot or anything, it would never stretch just pack on wide fat buds, but potency was the worst in my life on that strain, its like hairy bush weed style, doesn't get fat calyxes or anything when done, pure hairy bush..lol.. is Kong.. i have pics of the shitiest plants i ever grew in my Katsu thread in sig.. little fat fuckers flowered in 5.5 Kord square pots.. i always thought that strain had somethin good inside it, needed to breed with somethin else that was potent..
Kong.. LOL this strain makes me laugh it's so fucked up..lol
.edit-...and I've never seen it anywhere on the web, any forum any talk about it, I've never heard shit about Kong, bought 10seeds for $100 back in the day at some dispensary, and about a month later, that dispensary went down, and like 6 others.. KONG...LOL.. you ugly bitch of a strain you.
Probably not good to buy strains that you haven't investigated and read good things about beforehand. I know what you mean though. I bought some supposed Chemdawg seeds which were just bulk rather than breeder packs. The seedlings were the most miserable looking things I've ever seen, thin curled leaves, just mangy. Didn't even keep growing the seedlings. I suppose they could have eventually came out better than how they looked as seedlings, but I had other strains started too, the Chrystal, and they looked very good so why waste limited space on the mangy ones?

About the short internode plant, yeah I mean in flowering. I'll snap a pic later and post it here. Should be potent too, being NL5xWW, but you never know. It's too early to try a bud yet.
 

BobCajun

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Okay here's the super short Chrystal pheno. All the internodes are like that. The whole plant is now 21" at its highest bud. It's the two stems in the middle of the pic in kind of a V shape. Three colas on it altogether but the third is behind those two so it's harder to see. You can see that the other plants around it have longer internodes, at least the other Chrystals to it's left. The Blue Pyramid to its right does have rather short internodes too. They're clones from the shortest pheno of three. The other two stretched like crazy. But even that ones internodes are about twice those of the short Chrystal. The thing just did not stretch whatsoever.

Just looking at the plants again, the Blue Pyramid is very close to that shortness, about 4" taller. That was an unusually short pheno of BP. So I actually got lucky and got two short phenos of different strains. The Chrystal is an overall stronger looking plant though, much thicker stems for instance. Looks like it's getting ready to support some monster buds. The BP tends to be on the thin side.

 
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Johnei

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Those girls look like they're gonna be stacked donkey dick buds, with big fat stem in the middle.;)

Wow, if they were topped and made into bushes early on, probably be no internode super short stacked nodes even more.

Thats the kind a plant worth it to do big fan leaf pruning get light right down all along the stem there, that shit will be tight.
 

BobCajun

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Those girls look like they're gonna be stacked donkey dick buds, with big fat stem in the middle.;)

Wow, if they were topped and made into bushes early on, probably be no internode super short stacked nodes even more.

Thats the kind a plant worth it to do big fan leaf pruning get light right down all along the stem there, that shit will be tight.
I did top it, and it made three colas. Might grow taller if left untopped. I'm happy with it so far though. Glad I'm finally starting to get some decent plants going. Another thing you can see is that the branches stay short. It'll form long uniform colas, by the looks of it. Like you said, donkey dick city. Would be good for SoG. Bunch of single colas. I prefer fewer plants topped to 3-6 colas though.
 

Johnei

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I meant like super topped many many times into a bush.
..that would make it be what? 11" tall with .1inch internodes..lol ;)

Plants look great man!
 

BobCajun

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I meant like super topped many many times into a bush.
..that would make it be what? 11" tall with .1inch internodes..lol ;)

Plants look great man!
I guess height doesn't really indicate much, because you can keep a plant short with enough pruning anyway. I just thought I'd mention the height. The internode length can't be changed by pruning though. Maybe by a bluer spectrum or something but not by pruning. Maybe some stretch is actually good though, might let more light get through and more air ventilation.
 

DaveInCave

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I do agree about Dinafem, all my experiences with their strains so far have been super positive (as user though, not as a grower).

But some of the things I read in this thread make me wonder, how can someone who is not an expert know what strain he is actually getting from a breeder, and
how can one separate the marketing crap from actual facts and make informed decisions about what strains to grow?
Are we only limited to trial and error?
 
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