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[im4satori]

your looking for someone to say

"you got something simple wrong and you just need to add more of this or that"

but its much more involved than your recognizing

nobody wants to here "your grow is fucked up"
that's not helpful and there are more tactful ways to get that message out

it puts you on the defense and makes you question positive advise... I get that

I also understand that when dealing with new peeps on the web you don't want to take the first person word for it because he might be full of shit so I get asking around for several opinions to build a consensus

but if you get past the negative tones theres good info in there from several

 

[Johnei]

polishpollack it is not silly at all what i told hm to do, you just do not understand why and are not taking every consideration of his exact grow and problem into account as I have, so you mock it.
How exactly have you helped him exactly? or do you just focus on everybody and everything else in this thread?

I know what's wrong with the plant!!!

It's cockroaches!!!

actually wait...

it must be BedBugs!!! do you sleep close by? better check under all the sheets and everywhere.
soil must be so cozy bed bugs moved in like it's a nice bed. They're sucking out the plants' vital juices!

or maybe it's cave dwelling spiders!?!?
This is a strong possibility.

maybe that plant has an electrical plug or wire behind the tent right in that spot, and is radiating an electromagnetic field and that plant and that plant alone now has cancer! yes this is it. Your plant has cancer.
and bugs!

 

[Johnei]

Your plant no longer want fertilizers, it only wants molasses. This is your problem, you need to feed MORE molasses as fast as possible before the plant dies. Emergency! Emergency!

 

[im4satori]

Your plant no longer want fertilizers, it only wants molasses. This is your problem, you need to feed MORE molasses as fast as possible before the plant dies. Emergency! Emergency!

that was joke

johnei has a good sense of humor

but since the thread starter has been bashed a bit lets make sure he knows your not picking at him lol

here we go again...polish
why does he feel he needs to start every post first by bashing somebody else and then repeating whats already been said lol

polish just give your 2 cents and stop worring about trying to make someone else look bad

 

[Johnei]

(I'm pretty sure Diskokobaja knows I'm not serious. Molasses goes good with chicken wings. mmmmm mixture of honey, molasses, and maple syrup.. mmmmm)

 

[im4satori]

(I'm pretty sure Diskokobaja knows I'm not serious. Molasses goes good with chicken wings. mmmmm mixture of honey, molasses, and maple syrup.. mmmmm)

stop hushing me, I can talk if I want damn it...


shhhhh.......lol

 

[Johnei]

 

[polishpollack]

You two are proof that any idiot with a web connection can say whatever they want. The grower came here looking for help. Try not to forget that part.

 

[Johnei]

This guy doesn't really want help, it's all a ruse, you're so smart you haven't figured that out yet.
I'll be watching attentively how you help him.
Teach me master obi-wan.

 

[im4satori]

o my fucking god @polishpollack

you've got to be kidding me

from now on your name is pita

as in "pain in the ass" pita

if youd just keep your need to run your mouth about others and stay on topic I could live life ignoring you

say what you gotta say to the thread what you can add that's constructive and stop following people around trash talking and intentionally trying to start shit

and then you have the nerve to say this

"The grower came here looking for help. Try not to forget that part."

when you've added nothing new to the conversation

un fucking real

its undesirables like you that chase good people off the site

 

[polishpollack]

I've already given my help. The rest is up to the grower.

 

[Diskokobaja]

there are so many peeps doing different things and so many variables

you can

water , water , water heavy feed, water, water, water heavy feed
or
water, feed, water ,feed water , feed


some guys do the heavy feeds and then spend a week leaching out the heavy salts with all the water feeds

I prefer a more mild feed (as in lower EC/PPM) and maybe more frequent if required.. this prevents salt build ups and the need for heavy leaching and excessive watering , it also helps keep the biology going

if you want to push the envelope with the "more is more" theory do it after you've mastered the "less is more" theory

I don't know where and when we came to philosophy more is better.. First time that I did use bloom nutes was in second week of flowering , until that it was all water and molasses .. They been fed maybe 5x top!And never went on full doses .. There is dude named Tang who feeds his girls with small doses every watering and he waters every other day or similar.. I will listen to ya all, and give them strait water one more time.. We came from dude you kill them with every day molasses to dude you doing it all wrong.. WTF dude??
And despite all that you guys are amassed with my reaction and non listening...
Ok sorry for not being newbie and not jumping on other people proposals- dick riding..

And once again PLEASE TELL ME (COZ I WANNA TO LEARN) HOW DID YOU RECOGNIZE THAT MY GIRLS ARE OVERFED??
I only know nute burn....

 

[Diskokobaja]

(I'm pretty sure Diskokobaja knows I'm not serious. Molasses goes good with chicken wings. mmmmm mixture of honey, molasses, and maple syrup.. mmmmm)

Now you will get me real mad..I'm so conservative about my food!! And I'm a fckn chief.. Or better said cook.. Chicken wing goes with hot sauce, or some wicked marinade.. I like them dip in Vegeta (SlaviC PoWeR! ) and french mustard, grilled ... that's my type of food..sweet is for dessert.. I dont bite that sweet piece/hot/sorrow bullshit combos.. just my 2 cents

I dont know what to say more.., I feel like completely moron now... last grow was pretty much ok.. I manage all my grows bring to harvest, never saw more than 10% amber trichs and I had real problems before ( Now I'm just waiting to you guys to bash me about checking trichomes and be fool for doing that).. I started with HESI, fck up PH every time, Went to AN tout i had successful grows,but It seems I been all this time lucky.. At least if nothing this experience will ease my pain of dismantling all equipment and sell all..
Obvious This inst for me....
Thank you..

 

[Johnei]

Last time i saw your plants....
I'd give water a few times to deal with any imbalance/buildup/crap.. then a nice watering with a touch of base nutrients with bigbud booster, just those. like i mentioned before, however you have to make it work for your hard water etc., and then some more clean waters only after that, then some overdrive, and then clean water to the end.. I'm being serious, tryin to help. Looking at the plants I believe this will help.

correction:
*plant

 

[polishpollack]

Your first post has a picture that shows some dark green leaves and leaf tip death. These are signs of over feeding. I don't know what is causing the other discolorations, the light green color and the other brown spotting, but I suspect it has to do with all the nutrients you're giving as it looks like you're giving too much. Making this worse is the soil has nutrients too, so the truth is you don't really know how much to give of fertilizer. When you give ferts, you're just guessing. When the others have made their posts, the truth is they don't know either and they are just guessing too. Then this thread broke down to ridiculous text further proving that they really can't help you at all. If you would pay attention to what I've said here, you'd realize you probably over did the food and need to stop for a while. Maybe transplant into a larger container and give nothing but water for a while and see how they develop. Just because people come here and make statements concerning what they think doesn't mean they're right and things can get very confusing. Once you give too much food, it's impossible to remove it. You can only recognize the problem and stop making it worse by giving more. This is why using bottle nutrients can be such a problem. People tend to give too much and kill the grow, especially if you're using a soil that already had nutrients in it.

 

[Diskokobaja]

They are all in 8th week of life entering 9.. I will put them all on water until the end...
Cut them and rap it up..

 

[im4satori]

Your first post has a picture that shows some dark green leaves and leaf tip death. These are signs of over feeding. I don't know what is causing the other discolorations, the light green color and the other brown spotting, but I suspect it has to do with all the nutrients you're giving as it looks like you're giving too much. Making this worse is the soil has nutrients too, so the truth is you don't really know how much to give of fertilizer. When you give ferts, you're just guessing. When the others have made their posts, the truth is they don't know either and they are just guessing too. Then this thread broke down to ridiculous text further proving that they really can't help you at all. If you would pay attention to what I've said here, you'd realize you probably over did the food and need to stop for a while. Maybe transplant into a larger container and give nothing but water for a while and see how they develop. Just because people come here and make statements concerning what they think doesn't mean they're right and things can get very confusing. Once you give too much food, it's impossible to remove it. You can only recognize the problem and stop making it worse by giving more. This is why using bottle nutrients can be such a problem. People tend to give too much and kill the grow, especially if you're using a soil that already had nutrients in it.

and there it is again

you just cant help yourself

I wanted so badly to just ignore your posts

but you always gotta try and step on someone else in an attempt to make yourself look smart...
your like that guy at work that snitches on his co-workers to make himself look good or takes credit for others work.
its gross and shows poor character

and yet your advise to the thread starter was still again only what has already been said so again you add nothing to the conversation

you look and sound like a fool, that's why nobody is pressing "like" on your posts

please just say what you gotta say that's constructive to the thread starter and leave the rest out and stop trolling

every time you follow behind me and say this stupid ass shit it disrupts the thread.. over and over.. should I take the time to link them all together AGAIN

in years on this site
you've never started a thread in your entire history on the site... ya I looked at your history !... you've never posted a single picture of a plant or asked for help or asked a single question of anybody EVER! no journal... no evidence that you've ever grown a pot plant in your life

you just poke around trying to tell others whats wrong with them and you hang out in the newb section to mke yourself feel smart


and im not blowing smoke; you really have never!

 

[im4satori]

I don't know where and when we came to philosophy more is better.. First time that I did use bloom nutes was in second week of flowering , until that it was all water and molasses .. They been fed maybe 5x top!And never went on full doses .. There is dude named Tang who feeds his girls with small doses every watering and he waters every other day or similar.. I will listen to ya all, and give them strait water one more time.. We came from dude you kill them with every day molasses to dude you doing it all wrong.. WTF dude??
And despite all that you guys are amassed with my reaction and non listening...
Ok sorry for not being newbie and not jumping on other people proposals- dick riding..

And once again PLEASE TELL ME (COZ I WANNA TO LEARN) HOW DID YOU RECOGNIZE THAT MY GIRLS ARE OVERFED??
I only know nute burn....

disko man

the statement more is not more was referring to your mixing program and keeping it simple

not changing ratios and and using so many different products and bottles that complicate things

you could be feeding small amounts and still end up with an excess of a particular element that can cause lock out

for example if your feeding safe amounts but the solution consists of mostly or too much K you can still lock out calcium or magnesium

if you read my first post to you.... I believe your fisrt response ! and then read every post ive written there after...and the private messages weve shared

they all say the same thing and have been consistent

your nute mix ratio is out of balance

I helped you figure out how to balance your nutes.. its up to you if you want to mix it the way I suggested or not.. either way I wish you luck

 

[polishpollack]

I've repeated myself because it looks like the grower isn't listening, until now where he finally writes that he using nothing but water to the end. This is the safest thing to do. I don't know using your balance of nutrients will help, but since it looks like fert has already been given for quite a while and it's a soil grow (soil traps nutrients), I don't think giving more is a good idea.
My posting here isn't to make anyone look stupid. You don't need my help for that.
I have left info that is constructive but people need to be open to it, which they're aren't. People want the answers that sound good to them. Accuracy in an online forum is seldom important as people really just come here for socializing, not for proper learning. For years, everyone in these forums focused on pH. It was always "dude, check your pH, adjust the water/nutrient mix, check the pH of your runoff." The truth was ignored, which is it is nutrient mix that drives pH. You can't adjust pH when nutrients are in the soil. Flushing won't help. It is too late to make changes.
You're treating the idea of nutrient lock out the same as people did with pH ten years ago. You don't have any proof that nutrient lock out is the problem or that balancing them is an answer. It is a good idea, but while it sounds good (like appropriate pH sounds good), if a grower gives too much fert there isn't much that can be done other than to just give water and see how it goes. Maybe the discoloration will stop. It is just as easy for plants to turn yellow from over ferting as it is from under ferting.
I ask questions but many times they go unanswered. I don't know why. I asked this OP to tell us what soil he is using and it was ignored. Then you asked about it, and I also asked one more time for that info. Only then did he finally answer. Many of my questions do not get answered, so I don't ask much. I get tired of being ignored.
Speaking of ignore, if you really want to ignore me, then just put me on ignore. (You secretly love reading my stuff, don't you?)

 

[Diskokobaja]

I've repeated myself because it looks like the grower isn't listening, until now where he finally writes that he using nothing but water to the end. This is the safest thing to do. I don't know using your balance of nutrients will help, but since it looks like fert has already been given for quite a while and it's a soil grow (soil traps nutrients), I don't think giving more is a good idea.
My posting here isn't to make anyone look stupid. You don't need my help for that.
I have left info that is constructive but people need to be open to it, which they're aren't. People want the answers that sound good to them. Accuracy in an online forum is seldom important as people really just come here for socializing, not for proper learning. For years, everyone in these forums focused on pH. It was always "dude, check your pH, adjust the water/nutrient mix, check the pH of your runoff." The truth was ignored, which is it is nutrient mix that drives pH. You can't adjust pH when nutrients are in the soil. Flushing won't help. It is too late to make changes.
You're treating the idea of nutrient lock out the same as people did with pH ten years ago. You don't have any proof that nutrient lock out is the problem or that balancing them is an answer. It is a good idea, but while it sounds good (like appropriate pH sounds good), if a grower gives too much fert there isn't much that can be done other than to just give water and see how it goes. Maybe the discoloration will stop. It is just as easy for plants to turn yellow from over ferting as it is from under ferting.
I ask questions but many times they go unanswered. I don't know why. I asked this OP to tell us what soil he is using and it was ignored. Then you asked about it, and I also asked one more time for that info. Only then did he finally answer. Many of my questions do not get answered, so I don't ask much. I get tired of being ignored.
Speaking of ignore, if you really want to ignore me, then just put me on ignore. (You secretly love reading my stuff, don't you?)

Maybe if some of you take time and read with attention you would see that I answered on all your question..
I even Pm to some of you link to my grow and previous grow , and guess what?' they dont even bother to check it..
So from me is excepted to follow somebody advice blindly and those people have locked their accounts( that will be biggest mystery to me why??) and I haven't find one pic of their plants or grows in here...