GR’s Stacked 315W CMH Vertical, G13 Haze, 2017

[gr865]

Ok so I have a question for you folks who have grown using this method.
I am noticing a lot of trichs forming on the underside of the leaves, is this normal for a stacked vertical grow?




They are starting to pack on some trichomes.

GR

 

[ttystikk]

Ok so I have a question for you folks who have grown using this method.
I am noticing a lot of trichs forming on the underside of the leaves, is this normal for a stacked vertical grow?

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They are starting to pack on some trichomes.

GR

It's normal for healthy plants.

 

[gr865]

It's normal for healthy plants.

Good to know, guess my other grows were not that healthy,

 

[ttystikk]

Good to know, guess my other grows were not that healthy,

I'm not going there. All I'm saying is that this one is very healthy!

 

[gr865]

I'm not going there. All I'm saying is that this one is very healthy!

Good thing is I am learning to do things right. My agronomic background does not apply when growing cannabis. Now if I were growing hemp, I could kill it because it is what I know. This has been an enjoyable learning experience. Nice Hobby!

Thanks Buddy you have helped a lot along the way. I am not there yet but working on it.

GR

 

[ttystikk]

Good thing is I am learning to do things right. My agronomic background does not apply when growing cannabis. Now if I were growing hemp, I could kill it because it is what I know. This has been an enjoyable learning experience. Nice Hobby!

Thanks Buddy you have helped a lot along the way. I am not there yet but working on it.

GR

Why would agronomy not be helpful? It's a plant, right?

 

[gr865]

Maybe I should have said, growing cannabis in coco. It is a totally different critter. Same rules do not apply except using fertigation. Less is more, and that is the same in growing turfgrass. I had fertigation systems at every golf course I was in charge of since the early 90's. Depending on the time of year I would feed up to 1.25#'s of N a month, most months were at around .75#'s of N. That would be spread over 12 to 15 watering a month.
Growing cannabis in coco is basically the same, only your total fert. is spread over nightly watering instead of a month. I know what my target is so I divide that total into 3 cycles per night.
I believe it is the attempt to recreate an outdoor environment indoors. Doing so creates a number of issues not faced growing in an outdoor environment. Maybe it's the 40 yrs I spent growing turfgrass compared to the few yrs I have been growing cannabis, experience always helps. Since i have been growing this is the only method I have work with more than once. All indoors, soil, Hempy's (Perlite/Vermiculite, straight Perlite, coco/clay pellets/growstones, straight coco, and for the past couple of years now it have been coco/smart pots. So this is the longest I have consistently grow in one medium and I am beginning to get it. Last grow was 0.75 g/W, expecting around 1 g/W, the Critical Kush may not produce as expected.
But I am happy with what I am seeing, and hopefully I will get enough to make my meds (CO) for the next 4 to 6 months. I really don't want to have to buy any cannabis to make the meds I require.

GR

 

[gr865]

Okay, we are getting into the harvest window, day 60 12/12, around 14 days left, they are really bulking up. Last night I had to take them out of the tent and do some moving around of the buds in the center of the screens that are trying to get into the lamps. And the upper buds are drooping into the lamps also, Tied everything back to the screens and backed them up a bit away from the lamps. I think I may burn them more just moving them in and out if the tent, have notice a couple of buds that bumped against the light and got a good burn on them. Have only bumped the light myself two times this grow, fuck I hate when that happens.

I scoped a couple of buds last night and overall they are around 10% cloudy with the occasional tiny amber amongst bright crystal trichs.

Good sign, last week I cut some minor branches that were being totally blocked by the thickness of the plants. I sat them on my toaster oven to be taken to the compost pile. Well I never got around to taken them out to the pile and this AM while making coffee I saw them and said "what the hell" and put them in the grinder to prepare for testing. I am impressed to say the least. Going to make me some very good medicine. Thinking of maybe harvesting one G13 next week at 67 days, then two G13's on day 74, and then the final G13 at day 81. Not sure about waiting till day 81 don't want the plant going too far and lose some of it's magical power.

Couple of pics from last nights work.




Note: There are no pics of the Critical Kush, am not happy with that plant. According to the breeded it is a 56 day plant, at day 60 now and the buds look like they are only in their 4th to 5th week. Going to let them go longer, scoped them last night and no red pistils and 100% clear trichs.

GR

 

[ttystikk]

Okay, we are getting into the harvest window, day 60 12/12, around 14 days left, they are really bulking up. Last night I had to take them out of the tent and do some moving around of the buds in the center of the screens that are trying to get into the lamps. And the upper buds are drooping into the lamps also, Tied everything back to the screens and backed them up a bit away from the lamps. I think I may burn them more just moving them in and out if the tent, have notice a couple of buds that bumped against the light and got a good burn on them. Have only bumped the light myself two times this grow, fuck I hate when that happens.

I scoped a couple of buds last night and overall they are around 10% cloudy with the occasional tiny amber amongst bright crystal trichs.

Good sign, last week I cut some minor branches that were being totally blocked by the thickness of the plants. I sat them on my toaster oven to be taken to the compost pile. Well I never got around to taken them out to the pile and this AM while making coffee I saw them and said "what the hell" and put them in the grinder to prepare for testing. I am impressed to say the least. Going to make me some very good medicine. Thinking of maybe harvesting one G13 next week at 67 days, then two G13's on day 74, and then the final G13 at day 81. Not sure about waiting till day 81 don't want the plant going too far and lose some of it's magical power.

Couple of pics from last nights work.

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Note: There are no pics of the Critical Kush, am not happy with that plant. According to the breeded it is a 56 day plant, at day 60 now and the buds look like they are only in their 4th to 5th week. Going to let them go longer, scoped them last night and no red pistils and 100% clear trichs.

GR

Not sure why you'd want to throw away buds so close to harvest?

Those look amazing! I'm very impressed with your technique and results!

 

[Bakersfield]

Okay, we are getting into the harvest window, day 60 12/12, around 14 days left, they are really bulking up. Last night I had to take them out of the tent and do some moving around of the buds in the center of the screens that are trying to get into the lamps. And the upper buds are drooping into the lamps also, Tied everything back to the screens and backed them up a bit away from the lamps. I think I may burn them more just moving them in and out if the tent, have notice a couple of buds that bumped against the light and got a good burn on them. Have only bumped the light myself two times this grow, fuck I hate when that happens.

I scoped a couple of buds last night and overall they are around 10% cloudy with the occasional tiny amber amongst bright crystal trichs.

Good sign, last week I cut some minor branches that were being totally blocked by the thickness of the plants. I sat them on my toaster oven to be taken to the compost pile. Well I never got around to taken them out to the pile and this AM while making coffee I saw them and said "what the hell" and put them in the grinder to prepare for testing. I am impressed to say the least. Going to make me some very good medicine. Thinking of maybe harvesting one G13 next week at 67 days, then two G13's on day 74, and then the final G13 at day 81. Not sure about waiting till day 81 don't want the plant going too far and lose some of it's magical power.

Couple of pics from last nights work.

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Note: There are no pics of the Critical Kush, am not happy with that plant. According to the breeded it is a 56 day plant, at day 60 now and the buds look like they are only in their 4th to 5th week. Going to let them go longer, scoped them last night and no red pistils and 100% clear trichs.

GR

Looks real nice!
I've bumped my vert light when it was on and now I always turn the light off before I get near them, lol.

 

[ttystikk]

Looks real nice!
I've bumped my vert light when it was on and now I always turn the light off before I get near them, lol.

A wise move lol

 

[gr865]

Grow tattoo,

 

[gr865]

Today I harvested the Critical Kush at day 61, breeder says 56 but was not ready. Checked the trichs last night and they were around 70% cloudy/30% clear.
Took some pics but deleted them before I transferred them to the laptop. Shit happens!

I trimmed and removed the buds from the stems and placed them on my drying rack. 356 grams wet weight, so instead of 20% and the dry weight factor I am using 15% because of the amount of small buds that I know will not weigh much at all. So somewhere around 2 zips, if I am lucky. Not happy with that plant at all. But my GF said, well maybe it will be very good wil make up for the lack of weight.

 

[ttystikk]

Today I harvested the Critical Kush at day 61, breeder says 56 but was not ready. Checked the trichs last night and they were around 70% cloudy/30% clear.
Took some pics but deleted them before I transferred them to the laptop. Shit happens!

I trimmed and removed the buds from the stems and placed them on my drying rack. 356 grams wet weight, so instead of 20% and the dry weight factor I am using 15% because of the amount of small buds that I know will not weigh much at all. So somewhere around 2 zips, if I am lucky. Not happy with that plant at all. But my GF said, well maybe it will be very good wil make up for the lack of weight.
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I'm thinking the structure of this plant may have had something to do with the low yield. I try to have one main stem with a few branches from it- and then those branches are also topped.

 

[coreywebster]

Looking good. I predict 3 zips there. Fingers crossed.

 

[gr865]

I'm thinking the structure of this planet may have had something to do with the low yield. I try to have one main stem with a few branches from it- and then those branches are also topped.

Can you do a drawing of the structure you speak of. I think I picture it, but would be nice to have a drawing. So how many times are you topping, and you top the main stem also how many times. Any supercropping?
I have thought of removing all back and directly front branches, then every other side branch. May have to try it sometime.
Thanks bud,
GR

 

[gr865]

Looking good. I predict 3 zips there. Fingers crossed.

Yeah, that's possible, I used 15% dry weight, usually use 20% and it comes close. These buds are so thin and airy. I hope your right.

 

[ttystikk]

Can you do a drawing of the structure you speak of. I think I picture it, but would be nice to have a drawing. So how many times are you topping, and you top the main stem also how many times. Any supercropping?
I have thought of removing all back and directly front branches, then every other side branch. May have to try it sometime.
Thanks bud,
GR

Without a graphic, I still think I can provide a useful direction.

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Is that too simple?

 

[ttystikk]

Without a graphic, I still think I can provide a useful direction.

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Is that too simple?

No.

 

[JDMase]

With topping so much do you not end up with a similar issue I have, which is heavy branching up top, lots of bud sites and branches which overlap one another and block light from each other? I guess im limited for space in my area though.