What strategy should Democrats use moving forward?

[Padawanbater2]

By the way, your aversion to HRC is clouded to some degree by misogyny. That is VERY clear at this point. Pada? That shithead is misogynistic at his core. There is no room for misogyny in the progressive movement. You both are frauds.

Could you provide a couple examples you feel represents my misogyny best?

 

[dagwood45431]

Your argument is without merit, it's off the subject and if it's the best you can come up with in response, just give it up already.

You don't have any ideas about the original thread topic, yet you think this kind of drivel is a valuable use of your time?

Democrats need to listen to their constituents and lose the superdelegate vote rigging scheme.

THAT'S called 'policy'. What policy changes would you like to see the Democratic Party make, or are vapid identity attacks the best you can manage?

No it's a response to the misogynistic dog whistle you're blowing when you entertain the idea of a men's rights movement. It's a dog whistle in exactly the same way "reverse racism" and "race baiting" are, just a different target. You ought to be ashamed of yourself instead of arguing this point. SMH.

 

[ttystikk]

It doesn't threaten me at all. It's disgusts me. Ponder the difference.

Thanks for admitting that you don't think men have the right to fight for their own rights.

...and that you can't come up with any arguments at all to support this position.

 

[ttystikk]

No it's a response to the misogynistic dog whistle you're blowing when you entertain the idea of a men's rights movement. It's a dog whistle in exactly the same way "reverse racism" and "race baiting" are, just a different target. You ought to be ashamed of yourself instead of arguing this point. SMH.

No dog whistle here; that's on you to prove.

My position is that any group of free citizens has the right to assemble for the defense of their legitimate rights.

Why do you disagree with this position, BASED ON THEIR GENDER? Because it sure seems like you're the misogynist here, not me.

 

[dagwood45431]

Thanks for admitting that you don't think men have the right to fight for their own rights.

...and that you can't come up with any arguments at all to support this position.

Fuck. You're stupid. I just fully realized that.

Why would men need to fight for their rights? I've asked that 3 or 4 times now and I can't ask it any clearer. Answer the question instead of making up your own questions to answer. This is getting very tedious.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Thanks for admitting that you don't think men have the right to fight for their own rights.

...and that you can't come up with any arguments at all to support this position.

Our friend is obviously banking on the idea that since, traditionally, societies have been run and organized by men, that there can not possibly be any legitimate gripes against their rights, even as individuals. Even though it's men who enjoy much higher suicide rates, much higher rates of death in the workforce, and comparable rates of sexual abuse when the prison population is taken into account. Yet, to voice these issues, to some, is the same as misogyny. To even entertain the idea that the dynamic in a relationship could shift or that the female could be the abuser is seen, to some of these people, as absurd. These are the same sort of people that believe POC can't be racist.

 

[ttystikk]

Fuck. You're stupid. I just fully realized that.

Why would men need to fight for their rights? I've asked that 3 or 4 times now and I can't ask it any clearer. Answer the question instead of making up your own questions to answer. This is getting very tedious.

And you haven't figured out that some outside determination of 'need' isn't necessary.

Who are you to decide who needs to organize and who doesn't?

 

[dagwood45431]

And you haven't figured out that some outside determination of 'need' isn't necessary.

Who are you to decide who needs to organize and who doesn't?

So, still won't answer? You're dismissed.

 

[Justin-case]

No dog whistle here; that's on you to prove.

My position is that any group of free citizens has the right to assemble for the defense of their legitimate rights.

Why do you disagree with this position, BASED ON THEIR GENDER? Because it sure seems like you're the misogynist here, not me.

There have been many men's rights groups, none have a very good track record.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's a continuation of their main tactic. They can't argue policy positions so they distract the narrative with identity attacks. At this point, it's all but transparent.

Watch what happens any time anyone brings up a policy position; they immediately obfuscate with the same identity attacks. This is a carefully designed tactic of diversion focused on and hoping to elicit an emotional reaction.

They can't argue policy because they know they're wrong when it comes to policy. So they do everything they can to avoid talking about policy.

you run like a bitch when i try to talk about policy.

why does bernie sanders, who is under federal criminal investigation for bank fraud, now support hillary's position of a 50 state public option and expanding medicare to 55+?

seems like he sold you guys out yet again. no refunds.

 

[ttystikk]

So, still won't answer? You're dismissed.

You're the one trying to justify the denial of people's right to assemble, not me.

 

[UncleBuck]

SMH. The stupidity of arguing for the need of a men's rights movement is stunning actually. These people call themselves progressives? That's fucking adorable!

they call themselves progressives, and they call everyone else f***gots, "herd like mentality", "primates", "penny pinching jew rats", and the like.

 

[UncleBuck]

What policy changes would you like to see the Democratic Party make, or are vapid identity attacks the best you can manage?

public option for all 50 states and expanding medicare to 55+. bernie sanders, who is under federal criminal investigation for bank fraud, says the same. he stole the idea from hillary.

 

[UncleBuck]

Could you provide a couple examples you feel represents my misogyny best?

apart from duct taping women's assholes open?

 

[UncleBuck]

you don't think men have the right to fight for their own rights.

what rights do you not have as a man? do you want to make women get your permission before an abortion or something? tell me.

 

[UncleBuck]

higher suicide rates, much higher rates of death in the workforce, and comparable rates of sexual abuse when the prison population is taken into account.

do you not have equal access to therapists? does OSHA require only men to work on dangerous projects? are there not already laws against rape?

i'll remind you, you once asked if someone's sexual assault was a "legitimate" sexual assault. so how can we be sure these prison rapes are "legitimate" prison rapes?

 

[Padawanbater2]

i try to talk about policy.

You try to bait policy focused progressives into debate by pretending you care about policy. When we engage with you, you resort back to personal attacks. We're not interested in engaging with those kinds of people.

 

[dagwood45431]

There have been many men's rights groups, none have a very good track record.

I wonder if tty would be interested in a white rights movement? I mean there's nothing that says he couldn't, right? Wow. Just wow.

 

[UncleBuck]

You try to bait policy focused progressives into debate by pretending you care about policy. When we engage with you, you resort back to personal attacks. We're not interested in engaging with those kinds of people.

why does bernie sanders, who is under federal criminal investigation for bank fraud, now support hillary's position of a 50 state public option and expanding medicare to 55+?

seems like he sold you guys out yet again. no refunds.

 

[Padawanbater2]

why does bernie sanders, who is under federal criminal investigation for bank fraud, now support hillary's position of a 50 state public option and expanding medicare to 55+?

seems like he sold you guys out yet again. no refunds.

Sorry, I think you might have missed it..

You try to bait policy focused progressives into debate by pretending you care about policy. When we engage with you, you resort back to personal attacks. We're not interested in engaging with those kinds of people.