Fans leaves starting to fall off, getting concerned, any thoughts??

So I just drilled holes all along my planter and have the fan going-I'm going to leave until I'm certain she's dried out, but so I don't get too eager does anyone have an idea how long it might take to dry?
The reason I ask such a difficult question is that I left her alone for 8 days, thought she was dried, but apparently not, can it take a few weeks for a planter this size to completely dry?
 
Username85 said:
So I just drilled holes all along my planter and have the fan going-I'm going to leave until I'm certain she's dried out, but so I don't get too eager does anyone have an idea how long it might take to dry?
The reason I ask such a difficult question is that I left her alone for 8 days, thought she was dried, but apparently not, can it take a few weeks for a planter this size to completely dry?
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It's your moisture control soil doing what it's designed to do.
 
Username85 said:
So I just drilled holes all along my planter and have the fan going-I'm going to leave until I'm certain she's dried out, but so I don't get too eager does anyone have an idea how long it might take to dry?
The reason I ask such a difficult question is that I left her alone for 8 days, thought she was dried, but apparently not, can it take a few weeks for a planter this size to completely dry?
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The good news is anyone that can get that far in MG is going to really enjoy the next grow with a quality soil.

That is not an easy question, there are so many variables including the condition of your roots underneath,
In the situation below I was able to push the limits of holding off watering,. Your question can get a wide range of answers.

Below is specific to my situation. These plants have been under 12/12 lighting since birth.
Copied from my journal:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/plants-in-my-1st-soil-recipe-are-still-alive-after-5-days.945380/

The plant pictured below has been watered 3 times since being transplanted to my soil on 7-15-17.
Transplanted from 6" clay to 3 gallon plastic, one week into flowering.
1st watering 14 days later on 7-29-17
2nd watering 12 days later on 8-10-17 (ro only till now, this is the last ro only watering)
3rd watering 7 days later on 8-17-17 (1st feeding about 2 tbl gypsum and about 100ppm's of cal mag+)
8-25-17

will be the 4th watering. ( Will get about 65ppm's of cal mag + today)
They have all been on a similar schedule.
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macsnax said:
It's your moisture control soil doing what it's designed to do.
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WOW! Does moisture control mean water retention? If that is the case it is the opposite of what a person should want growing MJ..
I get it, like one guy said, it is for people who forget to water.
 
This is from google:
Premium Moisture Control Potting Mix For Container Gardening. ... Miracle-Gro Moisture Control Potting Mix absorbs up to 33% more water than basic potting soil (versus potting soil that does not contain sphagnum peat moss, coir and wetting agent) and feeds up to 6 months.
 
yea those holes won't hurt a thing. They should help. I drill I think like 1 or 1.25 inch holes in mine, but thats preplanting. I go bottom and sides right up to top, and I mean lots of em!!! Like anymore would weeken the pot too much. Thats why I use the weed block fabric to keep the soil in, you know the stuff you put under mulch to keep weeds from popping through. For a smililar size container to a 5 gallon bucket is a milk crate, super sturdy, and line that baby with fabric and that pot is super breathable. Far cheaper than the rigid commercially available containers and unlike a fabric pot its rigid. Also make sure you are sitting it up on something, even just a couple spare bamboo sticks or something so the bottom can vent and drain well...

Pretty sure those are fungus gnats. Definetly indication of too wet of soil. Now I fight em a bit, but in coco I keep it moist all the time, coco doens't require the dry cycle that other mediums do, so it does temp them in. But go get some mosquito dunks from a big box store, they are to put in yard ponds and such. You only need a chunk of one, as they are designed for big areas of water, put it in your watering container, then fill with water and let it sit with that dunk in it till you water, days if possible. keep the chunk and repeat, fill em up with water as soon as you use the water so that dunk can soak in that water till next feeding. Its a bacteria of sorts in the dunk, so it won't harm your plant but will eat those things in larvae form. Yellow sticky traps will whack the most of the adults, but you gotta do something about those larvae or you'll have a never ending supply of adults unless you dry that soil out so bad you endanger the plant...

I've also been told you can scoop out top inch of soil or so to get many of the larvae, then cover the top layer with sand, dicotomous earth, rice hulls, etc. But I'm happy with the dunks... may try sand on top from the get go next round tho...
 
Damn guys thanks for all the feedback. It makes perfect sense thinking on it that the soil I've got will hold it more. Also thinking back I realize my once a week watering schedule is definitely too much. This is literally my 2nd plant ever, my first being last year and only got to about 30% as big as this one. I've been trying to keep it super simple since I don't really know what I'm doing, but again, really appreciate the info. I'm gonna drill more holes and leave her alone, check for the gnats in my soil and relax.
 
judge the watering based on pot weight. Im pretty sure youll be able to let the roots grow into the drier medium and see the plant wilt a bit. then water it, It wont kill it to dry it out..
 
I responded to that gnat pic in another thread. What gives.

How come nobody just told the OP that he's f'ed with Miracle-Gro. It is not only garbage nutes to grow pot with but as it's made with the cheapest possible base salts it's known to be chock full of toxic heavy metals.

Get some real nutes and media like ProMix and repot into decent bigger pots then you will do a lot better.

Growing pot on the cheap can be done if you know more. Experiment with cheap stuff and if you can get something happening use the money you save not buying pot from your early crops to invest in better nutes and gear. That's the way I've been doing it for years. Gearing up to produce a lb/mth to have a little left over once the power bill is covered.

Good luck to everyone that is struggling to get them big colas happening! I've done it for decades just for the love of the plant and encourage you all to not get greedy and respect the plant. Doesn't mean you can't get rich if you want but keep your kharma cool by tithing to those less fortunate and helping those in need.

I smoked the hell out of a half dozen people at my niece's wedding tonight with my OG#18 and met a pro grower who gave me some seriously positive feedback about it. Great bag appeal, perfect trim, nice ash and the gold bud with swirling red hairs mingled in he liked too. That's the first time someone that is in the commercial trade in BC's pot country has ever smoked some of my bud. And it's not the best of what I do.

Was a great night, great wedding and I'm baked so sweet dreams y'all!

:peace:
 
Chunky Stool said:
Looks overfed & too wet.
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Ditto. Overwatering and underwatering both show the same symptoms, droopy leaves. Narrow dark clawing leaves sign of excess N.

Personally I would flood them with plain water next watering or two.

Don't go poking your fingers in the soil, learn to gauge watering needs by the weight of the plant in the pot, assuming it is a soil grow. Actually let them dry way the hell out to where the leaves do droop a bit, then heft the pot, it will be very light, and then remember that weight mentally.

Anyway.... you can't have too much light, but you can have too much water.
 
AimAim said:
Anyway.... you can't have too much light, but you can have too much water.
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You certainly can have too much light my friend. In my early growing years I bleached the hell out of plants using the faulty, "If some is good then lots more must be better", school of thought. Same applies to nutes, water etc. Balance is the key.
 
OldMedUser said:
You certainly can have too much light my friend. In my early growing years I bleached the hell out of plants using the faulty, "If some is good then lots more must be better", school of thought. Same applies to nutes, water etc. Balance is the key.
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Yeah, I realize this, but it's not that common of a problem.

Nutrients - More than often problem is too much "love"
Water - More than often problem is too much "love"
Light - More than often problem is too little "love"

As stated generalizations can get you in trouble. I have seen some instances where a person puts emerging seedlings under 1K lighting and bleached, fried, killed them. But for every one of those there are 100 instances where more light is the fix to the problem.
 
AimAim said:
Nutrients - More than often problem is too much "love"
Water - More than often problem is too much "love"
Light - More than often problem is too little "love"
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Totally agree! Too much TLC kills more plants than neglect. Just like with baby humans. Doctors see a lot more babies sick from overheating than they do from hypothermia.

Everything in moderation until you get some grows under your belt then you can push things to find the upper limits for maximizing your grows.

Wouldn't hurt if nOObs would just put down the damn phones and read a few books before running in a panic to forums like this to try to save their plants.
 
So hopefully some responders see this, but I'm apparently still having the same issue and wanna get some opinions at this point. I still haven't given any water since posting this, kept fan on it almost all day, pot is super light, but I still seem to be having the fan leaf issue. Some leaves that were a little ways up have started to slowly change color and die, usually within 3-4 days of initial discoloration. The flower sites don't seem to be affected though, even those on the lowest areas where there's been the most fan leaf loss.
Do you all think this may just be normal for this plant into flowering, or is there still something really bad going on?
 

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OldMedUser said:
Totally agree! Too much TLC kills more plants than neglect. Just like with baby humans. Doctors see a lot more babies sick from overheating than they do from hypothermia.

Everything in moderation until you get some grows under your belt then you can push things to find the upper limits for maximizing your grows.

Wouldn't hurt if nOObs would just put down the damn phones and read a few books before running in a panic to forums like this to try to save their plants.
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To be fair I had a good idea of what the issue was, but sometimes feedback can help more than a book.
 
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