Trump unites NFL - against him.

ttystikk

ttystikk

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Creature1969 said:
Considering the left won't admit that people know exactly why the players protest, yet still boycott the NFL, is ironic.

I'd like to know who the little red devil on Trump's shoulder is. Someone had to tell him to do this. The media is playing right along. That one Steeler's guy isn't.

When you don't see anything wrong with either argument about kneeling and don't watch sports, it's very interesting to watch.
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The little red devil on the Chump's shoulder is the one telling him how to boost his viewership. That's all he cares about, he's proven that well enough over the past year.
 
twostrokenut

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Fogdog said:
You are so confused about what fascism is.

Agree with @ttystikk that the government of Spain needlessly bought itself a pile of trouble in how it handled this vote. Their response was off the charts wrong in so many ways.

But it wasn't fascism.

dolt
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Federal Police storming polling stations and attacking peaceful voters is fascism. It is you that is confused antifa boy.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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twostrokenut said:
Triple down on in Bunk, do more. Most of America would rather you lose as well so that actual discussions can be had.
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What discussions would those be? Maybe how you want to see civil rights abolished and racial segregation brought back? Or your hilarious fear of non-existent MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!! ?

you tell me what important discussions you think* we are not having.









*I am using the term 'think' very loosely here, nazi.
 
Fogdog

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twostrokenut said:
Federal Police storming polling stations and attacking peaceful voters is fascism. It is you that is confused antifa boy.
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Nope. Look it up. You are confused. Fascism is more than just repressive regime. Much more. Also includes scapegoating minorities, belligerent nationalism, a strong central leader/dictator among them. Spain certainly is wrong in it's actions but Spain is not a fascist state.

You cling to your falsehoods. I guess because you don't demand any proof other than your belief. You are consistent in this, I'll give you that.
 
greg nr

greg nr

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Fogdog said:
Nope. Look it up. You are confused. Fascism is more than just repressive regime. Much more. Also includes scapegoating minorities, belligerent nationalism, a strong central leader/dictator among them. Spain certainly is wrong in it's actions but Spain is not a fascist state.

You cling to your falsehoods. I guess because you don't demand any proof other than your belief. You are consistent in this, I'll give you that.
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And in late breaking news, francisco franco is still dead. But his ideas aren't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
 
Fogdog

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greg nr said:
Many in Spain still consider a patriot and hero.
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And Trump is the prez of the US.

Simpletons look to dictators for answers.

"The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness.... This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector." Plato in The Republic
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Fogdog said:
Nope. Look it up. You are confused. Fascism is more than just repressive regime. Much more. Also includes scapegoating minorities, belligerent nationalism, a strong central leader/dictator among them. Spain certainly is wrong in it's actions but Spain is not a fascist state.

You cling to your falsehoods. I guess because you don't demand any proof other than your belief. You are consistent in this, I'll give you that.
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I am aware of who Giovanni Gentile was, are you?

nationalism does not equal fascism. Che and Mandela were nationalists. fascism is a collectivist movement with an all encompassing state.

just like nazism, Leninism and Marxism.

weather the leader is strong or weak is likewise irrelevant.
 
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UncleBuck

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twostrokenut said:
I am aware of who Giovanni Gentile was, are you?

nationalism does not equal fascism. Che and Mandela were nationalists. fascism is a collectivist movement with an all encompassing state.

just like nazism, Leninism and Marxism.

weather the leader is strong or weak is likewise irrelevant.
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Tell us again how Hitler was a liberal, trailER boy
 
greg nr

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or how franco is hated.... (he isn't).

There are still fascists in spain, just like in the us.
 
Fogdog

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greg nr said:
or how franco is hated.... (he isn't).

There are still fascists in spain, just like in the us.
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Nobody says there aren't. At least I don't say there are no fascists in Spain. On your lead, I checked about and find sources that say about a third of Spain still admires Franco. That's a big number. The 67% that don't admire Franco is a much larger number. I'm asserting that Spain isn't a fascist state, not that Spain is free of knuckleheads who think they are better off surrendering their rights to a fascist dictator. They are part of a scary-large minority as are like-minded racists in the US.
 
Fogdog

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twostrokenut said:
I am aware of who Giovanni Gentile was, are you?

nationalism does not equal fascism. Che and Mandela were nationalists. fascism is a collectivist movement with an all encompassing state.

just like nazism, Leninism and Marxism.

weather the leader is strong or weak is likewise irrelevant.
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You are confused about what Fascism is. You completely miss it's historical context, it's belligerent nationalism, especially it's use of minorities as scapegoats and the fact that the dictator at the heart of what came to fascism realized, reflected the desire of the post WW1 middle European commoner's desire to return to the sense of safety they had under a monarch.

I can see why you relate to the useless idealistic creator of a fake philosophy that is used to justify a vile form of government. Very much like your belief in another fake philosophy that is not based on science or rigor. Unproven axioms were at the heart of both. LOL, you are such a tool.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Fogdog said:
You are confused about what Fascism is. You completely miss it's historical context, it's belligerent nationalism, especially it's use of minorities as scapegoats and the fact that the dictator at the heart of what came to fascism realized, reflected the desire of the post WW1 middle European commoner's desire to return to the sense of safety they had under a monarch.

I can see why you relate to the useless idealistic creator of a fake philosophy that is used to justify a vile form of government. Very much like your belief in another fake philosophy that is not based on science or rigor. Unproven axioms were at the heart of both. LOL, you are such a tool.
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never heard of Giovanni huh? figures.

when we think of who is the philosopher behind capitalism....easy; Adam smith.

Marxism? well Marx of course.

nazism? easy right?

how about fascism? woah man it's this big complicated abstract nationalist thingy on the right.......nope.

that would be Giovanni Gentile and theres a good reason the left has conviently forgotten him....whoops.

nationalism has fuck all to do with party lines. Fidel was a nationalist. does that magically place Mr Castro on the right? nope. save your revisionist history for the lemmings.
 
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