The Democratic Party Autopsy Report

UncleBuck

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You guys collectively had no problem admitting she didn't earn as many black votes as Obama because Obama was black and Hillary Clinton is white. Conservatives made the exact same claim during the 2007-8 campaign and you guys called them racist for even suggesting it; that black people couldn't be able to see past their race and vote for what they believed was right!
i said that a small percentage of black people voted for obama because they were more enthusiastic to elect the first black president. i was too.

the only quote you have produced was by rob roy, a segregationist pedophile, who said that black voters chose obama because hey were "uninformed"

try again, padaraper
 

PCXV

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you think using money to influence government is capitalism? government is a great tool to return fairness and equity, and of course equality....in the free market which is being undermined by government?
Using money to influence government is happening under a quasi-capitalist system. Is capitalism to blame? There is an economic incentive to manipulate policy so possibly, but doing so might violate free market principles.

The second part you got right. If government is a tool of the people, who yields it and for what purpose will determine outcomes. If the people yielded the government in a way that promoted prosperity we might have it. If an oligarchy wields it to enrich themselves that is what it will do. A hammer can be used to build a house or take one apart.
 

twostrokenut

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no you didn't, you racist sack of shit

you don't even think black people should be able to eat at the same counter as whites
oh so you're a psychic pedo now. I voted Obama, paul, Johnson. asserting otherwise without evidence demonstrates how you slow down our forums.
 

Fogdog

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yeah, progressives like fdr. now is the part where you tell me the parties switched and fdr would be a Republican today....
oh bs

So much is wrong about this, including a conservative troll who wants to appropriate a great leader like FDR. A leader of the stature that modern day Republican leaders never have been. Republican presidents have been a disaster for this country. All except perhaps Ike.

Lincoln would have been a Democrat in today's society, dipwad.
 

UncleBuck

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oh so you're a psychic pedo now. I voted Obama, paul, Johnson. asserting otherwise without evidence demonstrates how you slow down our forums.
no one who opposes civil rights would vote for obama you serial lying closet homo sack of shit.

tell us more about how you beat your children with a switch. child beater
 

twostrokenut

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Using money to influence government is happening under a quasi-capitalist system. Is capitalism to blame? There is an economic incentive to manipulate policy so possibly, but doing so might violate free market principles.

The second part you got right. If government is a tool of the people, who yields it and for what purpose will determine outcomes. If the people yielded the government in a way that promoted prosperity we might have it. If an oligarchy wields it to enrich themselves that is what it will do. A hammer can be used to build a house or take one apart.
all right, decent. so if an oligarchy comprised of equal parts of influence from government and buisness, that is trading money for law statutes and codes, and this partnership brings a printing press to the relationship as well.......25% capitalism? now we realize the right to vote with your wallet is non existent in Buisness or government (competition) because money is faith and not property (property rights)and we are down to what maybe 10% capitalism?

and government can be a good or bad hammer, sure; but building houses is best left to the market, where they have 3d printers printing them with cement, hella nice red iron kits that are pre cut ....and even nailguns for the classic stickbuilts.
 
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Padawanbater2

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i said that a small percentage of black people voted for obama because they were more enthusiastic to elect the first black president. i was too.
Yet you condemned conservatives for holding the same opinion. You've also never clarified "a small percentage". That's a lie.

You don't get to call conservatives racist for voicing an opinion, then voice that exact same opinion and not be racist yourself.

You lack consistency
 

Padawanbater2

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Is capitalism to blame?
I would argue that it is. Even Marx foresaw the inevitable result of capitalism as early as the 1860s. I'm sure many would disagree with me. Capitalism is great when geared towards competition and technological progress, can't really deny that. But when it comes to income and wealth inequality, capitalism ensures there will be economic classes; few who control much, many who control none.
 

UncleBuck

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you condemned conservatives for holding the same opinion.
rob roy's opinion: blacks voted for a black because hey were "uninformed"

you: blacks have a "herd like mentality"

me: obama created enthusiams among black and white voters


so much for "exact same opinion"

have you managed to get it up and cum for a female yet?
 

UncleBuck

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all right, decent. so if an oligarchy comprised of equal parts of influence from government and buisness, that is trading money for law statutes and codes, and this partnership brings a printing press to the relationship as well.......25% capitalism? now we realize the right to vote with your wallet is non existent in Buisness or government (competition) because money is faith and not property and we are down to what maybe 10% capitalism?
tell us more about how black men and women should not be allowed to eat at the same lunch counter as whites, closet homo.
 

PCXV

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all right, decent. so if an oligarchy comprised of equal parts of influence from government and buisness, that is trading money for law statutes and codes, and this partnership brings a printing press to the relationship as well.......25% capitalism? now we realize the right to vote with your wallet is non existent in Buisness or government (competition) because money is faith and not property and we are down to what maybe 10% capitalism?
You lost me a bit at the end there but it is hard to give a percentage to how "capitalist" we are. That would take a lot of information to determine: an analysis of data from all industries, virtually all businesses, and government policies that affect them. To me, it is most important that both socialized and privatized markets are fair and produce positive outcomes.
 

UncleBuck

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I didn't admit anything, I only acknowledged that you formed an opinion of me based on your low IQ and I am curious as to what you think the reason minorities voted for Trump is since you believe every white person that voted for Trump only did so because they are racist.
me: you voted for trump because you are racist

you: yeah, but what about the minorities that did too???!!!????

i get it. some people are dumb and racist. you and "some minorities" as well.

that does not change the fact that you are a racist fuck who only voted for trump because he appealed to your racism
 

Padawanbater2

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rob roy's opinion: blacks voted for a black because hey were "uninformed"
"Many black voters voted for Obama because he's "black""

You: RACIST!!!
you: blacks have a "herd like mentality"
You: Blacks have a herd like mentality
me: obama created enthusiams among black and white voters
You: Blacks obviously voted for Obama in larger numbers than Clinton because he's black and she's white

Racist
 

UncleBuck

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"Many black voters voted for Obama because he's "black""

You: RACIST!!!

You: Blacks have a herd like mentality
you cited rob roy calling black people "uninformed"

you said black people have a "herd like mentality"

i said black voters, like myself, were more enthusiastic to vote for the first black president

keep trying.

also, keep trying to maintain an erection for a woman
 

Padawanbater2

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I didn't admit anything, I only acknowledged that you formed an opinion of me based on your low IQ and I am curious as to what you think the reason minorities voted for Trump is since you believe every white person that voted for Trump only did so because they are racist.
Right, white working class people who voted for Obama in 08 and 12 are somehow racist since they voted for Trump in 16.. That one still boggles my mind. But I guess to someone without explanation has to make one up.. They don't want to admit they voted for Trump because of his fake economic populist rhetoric. To them, anyone who voted for Trump is a deplorable.

That sure sounds like a winning strategy..
 
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