Trump's "shithole" gaff.

[twostrokenut]

The problem is not saying a piece of dirt is a shithole, the problem is implicating its citizenry as part or all the reason given piece of dirt is a shithole. There are places that could be described as shitholes as a stand alone statement. The key difference here is Mr. Trump is very clearly implying that he doesn't want people from these places he believes to be shitholes (including an entire continent) because there is an obvious implication that the people from there are part of it being a shithole. I wouldn't agree with him but if he wanted no one from anywhere, it would be wrong but not as vengeful of this was. Because Africans should be barred but Normegians are great to come over. Well whats different about a Normegian than an African? If a Normegian and an African are completely equal persons-then why would we not want someone from Africa but are okay with someone from Normay? His statement clearly implies that the people themselves from those countries are part of the "shitholiness" of those countries... Context in almost any statement means more than the individual worlds themselves.

the problem is injecting race. dirt, shithole and citizenry aren't racially charged words. so who charged shithole here? the usual lefty suspects, op, bunk, ect....and the 96% of journalists that donated to hillary it seems.

same people who look to Norway, the rest of Scandinavia and Europe as model examples of what america should be economically and socially.

that's not the slightest bit ironic to you?

 

[UncleBuck]

is it more preferable? I guarantee I keep more than 23% of what I earn in those so called shitholes...unlike fucking Norway.

so for me I couldn't live there and would choose a so called shithole.

but Norway is preferable for your far left version of what america should be. yall are always going on and on and on about how successful Scandinavia is when it's election time but now if you prefer those countries over others zomg that's wayciss.

you don't earn enough money to pay taxes in any country, trailer trash.

 

[Heil Tweetler]

Encouraging and refreshing.

https://dailystormer.red/trump-says-no-to-immigration-from-shithole-countries-wants-people-from-norway-instead/

 

[Huckster79]

the problem is injecting race. dirt, shithole and citizenry aren't racially charged words. so who charged shithole here? the usual lefty suspects, op, bunk, ect....and the 96% of journalists that donated to hillary it seems.

same people who look to Norway, the rest of Scandinavia and Europe as model examples of what america should be economically and socially.

that's not the slightest bit ironic to you?

This still avoids the cental question of why the furher is okay with folks coming from Normay but not those coming from Africa? There must be a difference in their personhood in his eyes... how can there not be? If there wasnt then there would be no reason to want to exclude them...

 

[Huckster79]

Gotta love Identity politics and those who get sucked into it.

Such as our illustrious potus...

In his worldview it seems there are two identities. Us and them. He decides alone as Pontif of Trumpism who is part of which identity...

Hes the one that differentiated between the people of Normay and the people of Africa, not I.

 

[twostrokenut]

This still avoids the cental question of why the furher is okay with folks coming from Normay but not those coming from Africa? There must be a difference in their personhood in his eyes... how can there not be? If there wasnt then there would be no reason to want to exclude them...

I think he said countries in africa, not the entire continent? the whole point was who individually is better for the American economy. for the record, my Nigerian optometrist is awesome for our economy.

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't much care for all those mostly white countries

you are literally a white supremacist who opposes civil rights and buddies up to literal nazis like choomer, and people with "white power" and "heil hitler" tattoos like panhead and your fishing buddy.

so no one believes you at all.

 

[Huckster79]

I think he said countries in africa, not the entire continent? the whole point was who individually is better for the American economy. for the record, my Nigerian optometrist is awesome for our economy.

Then please explain how the condition of a given country effects who we want to let in and who we do not? Why do we not want an Ethiopian but would gladly take a Normegian? What is the difference between a Normegian and a Haitian or Ethiopian?

 

[UncleBuck]

my Nigerian optometrist

does he know that you don't think he should be able to eat at the same lunch counter as a white because it might enrage white racists?

 

[Huckster79]

I think he said countries in africa, not the entire continent? the whole point was who individually is better for the American economy. for the record, my Nigerian optometrist is awesome for our economy.

So should we replace "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless tempest tossed to me" with "send us only your brightest pre-educated that can instantly make 6 figures and contribute to our economy bigly?"

Yes im being hyperbolic but instant economic contribution should not be the golden ticket in. If it was i doubt id be here...i dont think our nation wants to live any of The New Collossus anymore

 

[UncleBuck]

So should we replace "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless tempest tossed to me" with "send us only your brightest pre-educated that can instantly make 6 figures and contribute to our economy bigly?"

Yes im being hyperbolic but instant economic contribution should not be the golden ticket in. If it was i doubt id be here...i dont think our nation wants to live any of The New Collossus anymore

if the criteria was who's best for the economy, then twopump and his trailer would be instantly fucking deported.

 

[twostrokenut]

Then please explain how the condition of a given country effects who we want to let in and who we do not? Why do we not want an Ethiopian but would gladly take a Normegian? What is the difference between a Normegian and a Haitian or Ethiopian?

why doesn't the left present Haitian or Ethiopian economic models as progressive paths we should duplicate and instead point to denmark and Norway?

does he know that you don't think he should be able to eat at the same lunch counter as a white because it might enrage white racists?

he's like you, always trying to tell me what a shithole america is, pointing to the much, much whiter countries as fine examples of socioeconomic policy.

 

[UncleBuck]

why doesn't the left present Haitian or Ethiopian economic models as progressive paths we should duplicate and instead point to denmark and Norway?



he's like you, always trying to tell me what a shithole america is, pointing to the much, much whiter countries as fine examples of socioeconomic policy.

i asked if he knew that you don't think he should be able to eat at the same lunch counter as a white because it might enrage racist whites like you, i didn't ask you to try to shill your daily stormer white supremacist talking points, you literal fucking cuck.

 

[Huckster79]

why doesn't the left present Haitian or Ethiopian economic models as progressive paths we should duplicate and instead point to denmark and Norway?



he's like you, always trying to tell me what a shithole america is, pointing to the much, much whiter countries as fine examples of socioeconomic policy.

A countries political model has nothing to do with the value of the individuals personhood from that country. So please tell me why a Normegian is wecome and an Ethiopian is not? Mr trump obviously sees a difference in those two persons, what is the difference?

 

[twostrokenut]

So should we replace "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless tempest tossed to me" with "send us only your brightest pre-educated that can instantly make 6 figures and contribute to our economy bigly?"

Yes im being hyperbolic but instant economic contribution should not be the golden ticket in. If it was i doubt id be here...i dont think our nation wants to live any of The New Collossus anymore

getting all nostalgic for those days we fought constitutional wars? that shit is over.

no that shouldn't be the golden ticket, agreed. but neither should being more likely to end up on welfare than the average American.

newsflash, america has a poverty problem already among the citizenry.

 

[UncleBuck]

getting all nostalgic for those days we fought constitutional wars? that shit is over.

no that shouldn't be the golden ticket, agreed. but neither should being more likely to end up on welfare than the average American.

newsflash, america has a poverty problem already among the citizenry.

^^^^literal cuckold who lives in a trailer and makes less than poverty is worried about others getting welfare too

 

[UncleBuck]

south carolinians with degrees:

bachelors - 16%
masters - 4%
doctorate - 1%

nigerians with degrees:

bachelors - 37%
masters - 17%
doctorate - 4%



DEPORT RACIST WHITES FROM SOUTH CAROLINA

 

[Huckster79]

getting all nostalgic for those days we fought constitutional wars? that shit is over.

no that shouldn't be the golden ticket, agreed. but neither should being more likely to end up on welfare than the average American.

newsflash, america has a poverty problem already among the citizenry.

I agree on all in this post. Except first line im not sure i follow what you are saying.

Some of my closest friends are immigrants, and an overwhelming majority came here uneducated with little and now everyone of them is wealthier than i. They worked like dogs at menial jobs and scrimped and saved and now employ many American born Americans...

I beyond agree with the last line, but without us getting too far in the weeds on that topic, immigrants from Haiti and Africa are not the driving force of our poverty problem. A worthy topic that probably merits a thread of its own.

 

[UncleBuck]

I agree on all in this post. Except first line im not sure i follow what you are saying.

Some of my closest friends are immigrants, and an overwhelming majority came here uneducated with little and now everyone of them is wealthier than i. They worked like dogs at menial jobs and scrimped and saved and now employ many American born Americans...

I beyond agree with the last line, but without us getting too far in the weeds on that topic, immigrants from Haiti and Africa are not the driving force of our poverty problem. A worthy topic that probably merits a thread of its own.

he's trying to argue that we can't afford immigrants. from his trailer.

 

[Heil Tweetler]

I don't much care for all those mostly white countries you are always praising as models for america because they're too white and I don't want america to be whitewashed and white lashed. if you have a problem with this then you are a bitch ass cracker.