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ray098

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1kemosabe said:
Not greenpoint related but is greenpoint related, i dont know. Anybowe i am one not to complain much if at all. But out of 4 packs of cultclassics seeds bought from greenpoint i cannot get one to pop through soil. Have many packs left of various cult classic seeds and i give up up these. The seeds i had problems with are Jupiter and beyond and purification. I may try another dif strain just for shits and giggles.

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i have the same problem with j & b
 
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ThatGuyMontag

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
Your humidity is the culprit. High humidity causes damage to leaf stomata and root zone because transpiration cannot function normally so the plant is not processing nutes, sugars, and water correctly. You need to get that under control and especially before flowering! It can cause horrible issues with bud development. It will also make your plant way more susceptible to pathogens both above and below soil (nut just mold).

Humidity is often over looked especially in veg stage. Don't fuckin do that be on top of your environment in every stage. The other plants are probably more tolerant in veg to it due to genes and that one is not.

Edit: forgot to tell you sweet spot but 45% is what I always aim for 55+ and you risk things in my experience.

Also for those of you watching the one knothead repeatedly kill his seedlings by putting a fuckin plastic bag over them in probably too hot of a room that is what is killing his shit, but he is too smart and experienced to listen to others and continue learning. I learn stuff all the time from others. Never ignore people you should have thicker skin than that.

Also pure FFOF will run out of nutes on a lot plants around day 35, but don't mistake the natural leaf cycle of lower leaves dying as flowering progresses. This is very natural in many gene pools as long as it is from BOTTOM UP. Top down is always a nute problem. Bottom up can be too little N and some macro nutes. 10 years ago FFOF taught me this lesson. Good master growers helped me fix it on the mag, but also keep my cool. Very thankful for them.
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I disagree with the general sentiment that high humidity is bad. If that were the case, we wouldn't have Thai, Vietnamese, or Laotian cultivars (among others).

High humidity with low temps is bad. High humidity in late stages with certain varieties is bad. Higher temps call for higher humidity in my experience.

I found far better success following VPD charts than just working to keep my humidity 55% and below, temperature be damned.
 
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2easy

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ThatGuyMontag said:
I disagree with the general sentiment that high humidity is bad. If that were the case, we wouldn't have Thai, Vietnamese, or Laotian cultivars (among others).

High humidity with low temps is bad. High humidity in late stages with certain varieties is bad. Higher temps call for higher humidity in my experience.

I found far better success following VPD charts than just working to keep my humidity 55% and below, temperature be damned.
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my humidity never drops below 80% never had an issue other than bud rot but its just something i have to deal with here
 
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Tangerine_ said:
disclaimer: I received an email from GP asking if they could use my pic of TNT and I'd considered changing this report but I'd already typed up most of it and its truthful so I'm going to let it stand. I am however, very honored they used my pic
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Beautiful Plants Tangerine!!!! Those ladies look sexy!

On another note, I never received an email from GPS asking for permission to use my Sundance Kid pic. I found out through a fellow RIU member on this thread. I'm still honored though.
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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ThatGuyMontag said:
I disagree with the general sentiment that high humidity is bad. If that were the case, we wouldn't have Thai, Vietnamese, or Laotian cultivars (among others).
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High humidity is bad for the vast majority of the cannabis gene pool, especially the cultivars of modern day that are so popular. We have the Asian varieties you speak of because of localized evolution. They acclimatized over time. Of the cannabis gene pool they were the only lines in that region that could survive so they exist and they exist in the state they are in. The cultivars you speak of all have terribly loose, stringy, fluffy, and airy buds. 95-99% I would say when grown out are complete hemp garbage compared to the vast majority of cannabis worked or unworked. Working Thai strains and a lot of Asian varieties is a fucking night mare. Fantastic small population of good specimens though.

The only thing sought after in the varieties you mentioned are terp profile, humidity/mold/mildew resistance, and high. Very important things no doubt, but far from sought after strains as a whole compared to the rest of the planet.

By your theory high humidity is awesome for plants. So lets see you grow the top 10 popular and most sought after cultivars in high humidity and let us all know how awesome their performance is compared to a controlled environment with a balanced humidity.

Hell lets see you do that with the top 500 in the past 30 years of cannabis breeding.

Comon now lets be serious here...

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High humidity with low temps is bad. High humidity in late stages with certain varieties is bad. Higher temps call for higher humidity in my experience.
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Yeah there is some truth here higher temps = more evaporation and loss of water. But how successful is growing extremely thick tight buds or even moderate in Florida? I can tell you from first hand experience the vast majority of the time it is not good...Very dependent on genes though. The stringy fluffy sativas do great....
 
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Badfishy1

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
High humidity is bad for the vast majority of the cannabis gene pool, especially the cultivars of modern day that are so popular. We have those because of localized evolution. They acclimatized over time. Of the cannabis gene pool they were the only lines in that region that could survive so they exist and they exist in the state they are in. The cultivars you speak of all have terribly loose, stringy, fluffy, and airy buds. 95-99% I would say when grown out are complete hemp garbage compared to the vast majority of cannabis worked or unworked. Working Thai strains and a lot of Asian varieties is a fucking night mare. Fantastic small population of good specimens though.

By your theory high humidity is awesome for plants. So lets see you grow the top 10 popular and most sought after cultivars in high humidity and let us all know how awesome their performance is compared to a controlled environment with a balanced humidity.

Hell lets see you do that with the top 500 in the past 30 years of cannabis breeding.

Comon now lets be serious here...



Yeah there is some truth here higher temps = more evaporation and loss of water. But how successful is growing extremely thick tight buds or even moderate in Florida? I can tell you from first hand experience the vast majority of the time it is not good...Very dependent on genes though. The stringy fluffy sativas do great....
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Can confirm OD is tough
 
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ThatGuyMontag

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
By your theory high humidity is awesome for plants. So lets see you grow the top 10 popular and most sought after cultivars in high humidity and let us all know how awesome their performance is compared to a controlled environment with a balanced humidity.
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You ever heard of a rainforest bro? You can calm your ass down with your challenge sport. I didn't tell you that you were wrong, I told you I disagree. You get the difference between the two statements right?


And using the "top" cultivars is laughable, because half of them are weak gened trash. Yeah, let me get on running a room full of weak gene'd cookie cuts . Sorry 40, but I don't choose what to grow based on hype.


I've always enjoyed your posts homie, so why not have a legitimate discussion instead of issuing pompous challenges. My annecdotal experience differs. I used to run by the conventional wisdom of always staying below 55%, discovered VPD, and noticed marked improvements. I was in the PNW in a spot struggling with heat issues due to poor design and saw explosive growth in everything (heavy broad leaf varietals included), when we started raising humidity to deal with the heat.
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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Exactly we disagreed. I told you why I disagree with your disagreement /shrug.

I agreed with your high temp high humidity.

Let me know where you disagree with my rebuttal though...

And I don't follow the hype either, but I do call a spade a spade and while Cookies has some downs like every strain there is no denying it's modern day top shelf. I grow it right next to my Thais, hazes, african, tropical sativas, and spanish strains.
 
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Heres some pics of a noob growing cookies n chem and DogShit. First 2 are cookies

*As you can tell my camera skills are even worse
 

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ray098

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Chunky Stool said:
Yep, J&B is crap.
I got 1 seed to germinate out of my entire pack.

Purification was better. Got 8 to germinate but it took forever compared to other seeds I've popped.
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i picked up the purification too how do you like it and my j&b pack had 2 vials in it i think its about 20 seeds so far im 0\4 on them i knew something was wrong with them when i saw all the seeds they sent and i could not find any reviews or other banks selling those strains
 
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