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greenpointseeds

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GHOST TOWN IS BACK
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Ghost OG Kush x Stardawg
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Ghost OG is a special phenotype of OG Kush. She is highly sought after for her perfectly balanced cerebral and body effects. Ghost OG Kush is often described as both potent and non-intrusive at the same time. Ghost OG has won herself many awards throughout the years and is a renown strain among consumers and growers alike. Her strong citrus smell and crystal-covered buds hint at this strain’s extremely potent genetics.

ORGNKID & GHOST

This particular cut is thought by many to be the mother of all OG Kush strains. Ghost OG first appeared in the OverGrow.com forums (one of the first cannabis forums). The Ghost OG Kush cut came from an Over Grow member named ORGNKID. ORGNKID sold an O.G. cut to an OverGrow forum member named “Ghost” who further distributed the cut to others. Nobody knows the exact genetics of the strain, but it is believed to be originally from the Kush Mountains in Afghanistan and Pakistan. A true Kush strain.
The Ghost OG strain induces strong cerebral euphoria, creates laughter and is great for social occasions. She increases her energy and creativity at first, followed by full body relaxation. She is a useful pain control strain and is perfect for relieving stress while stimulating the appetite. The Ghost OG effects are immediate and potent, but not too overwhelming.

A Very Sought After High

Ghost Town has super dense buds that are extremely hairy with a sweet piney aroma. Ghost OG buds are drenched heavily with trichomes giving it the appearance of snow-capped mountains.

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Amos Otis

Amos Otis

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Michael Huntherz said:
I love Mr. Bungle a lot, Mike Patton fan generally, right there with you. Bungle is startlingly brilliant.
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Well, you've done it now. This post gives you a permanent pass on anymore avatar jokes...maybe, but probably.

Like most, I started w/ Faith No More, but followed Patton as he went from project to project. Bungle, Peeping Tom, and Lovage are all top tier. The diversity and excellence of these four projects [and others] is mind blowing. Nice talk. Oh....and this is exactly what the blast volume setting is made for. Godere !

 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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ORGNKID had several things going for him when he became active on the OG site, he had good grow skills, a passion for cannabis and what lied within the genetics of each plant but most of all he had some of the best genetics to work with at the time. His clone library at the time was the most envied of all and many people were constantly requesting trades with him, and one great example of this is his contribution of GHOST OG to the community. To ORGNKID it was just the original cut of OG Kush (he claims it is) and he sold a cutting to a OG forum user by the name of ‘Ghost’ and thus the Ghost OG cut was born. Not only has this cut gone on to be the basis of many strains, its also the basis of rare dankness’ main studs – Rare dankness #1 & #2. The cut frequently tests at high percentages and is considered to be one of the most elite og cuts there is even still (giving some credence to his claim that it’s the original imo)

Soon after people saw photos he was posting of the Ghost Og he was growing and heard that he had sold ‘Ghost’ a cut, the demand for his product increased. As a pure coincidence the process of creating feminized seeds by reversing a plants sex (with colloidal silver) had just been brought to the attention of the online cannabis community. ORGNKID decided he would create S1s of his OG Kush for the community (taking 2 cuttings of the same Ghost OG and reversing the sex of one of them so it creates pollen). These seeds have now gone down as legend as many of the offspring produced by these seeds are now considered legendary. Its highly speculated that Swerve of the Cali Con received some of these seeds and SFV OG is simply an S1 of Ghost OG, which does fit the general time scale of things. Further speculation has suggested these seeds ended up being the various OG cuts floating around the SFV area at the time (Tahoe, Larry, Hells Angels) however one OG Kush offspring we know for sure resulted from these S1 seeds is XXX Og. This is the king Indica OG of all the cuts, it has a heavy lemon taste and smell, with menthol undertones, and a narcotic and sedating stone, with the inference being that the Paki Vally recessive genetics of OG had been more expressed in this cutting. Regardless of the source XXX Og is definitely one of my preferred cuts of OG kush, however the next chapter in ORGNKID’s saga is his introduction of the Banana OG.

So exotic's Triple OG is Ghost S1 renamed? $300 a pack?
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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Amos Otis said:
Well, you've done it now. This post gives you a permanent pass on anymore avatar jokes...maybe, but probably.

Like most, I started w/ Faith No More, but followed Patton as he went from project to project. Bungle, Peeping Tom, and Lovage are all top tier. The diversity and excellence of these four projects [and others] is mind blowing. Nice talk. Oh....and this is exactly what the blast volume setting is made for. Godere !

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Fuck yeah, all over Patton’s work since before I saw Faith No More open for Metallica in Boise, Idaho, And Justice for All tour. Loved The Real Thing before the single, yada yada. I even bought “Adult Themes for Voice” (almost unlistenable) on the principle that he is a musical genius and the greatest living rock vocalist. Now we are bros, Ash, deal with it.

My friends all hated FNM until they saw them do War Pigs at that show, then they were all about it...

Digression over.
 
2easy

2easy

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Bodyne said:
So exotic's Triple OG is Ghost S1 renamed? $300 a pack?
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who really knows what to believe. if you look on phylos there is 61 different cuts sent in that are all genetically identical and they range in names that pretty much cover all the bases, ghost OG, SFV, tahoe, Larry and the list goes on. would an S1 be genetically identical to the parent yet express differently?

are they all the same cut that just expresses differently after spending years in different peoples gardens or is it possible that there is just one cut that was renamed 61 different times and it was unlucky enough that every og cut sent into to phylos was that one cut and none of the legit cuts were ever sent in. seems unlikely.

or is phylos just simply not that accurate in there genome testing and close enough is good enough

and more importantly.... in the end does it matter. are you happy with what your smoking lol
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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very much so, and I didn't have to spend 300, hells bells, some of the best meds Ive ever smoked were homeade crosses, cept for two or three or five. From what has been on the net and supposedly leaked out, I go with your first choice. I think its diff gardens, and grown diff. Of course, then the names came, crosses came, then the fems, then the autoflowers, lol. It don't matter TBH. Im happy.
 
BigHornBuds

BigHornBuds

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Chunky Stool said:
Nice! :shock:

Keep an eye out for nanners.
I think @Heisengrow saw quite a few in his crop.
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I did some pruning n cleaning up last night , still needs a little more tonight, but zero balls n nothing in the buds so far, but I’ll keep my eyes on them.
I have another abused one in a 1g pot
Guessing somewhere around day 50ish? no signs yet .

NugHeuser said:
Talk about stacking. What kind of lights are you using? I thought I remembered you saying high wattage cobs but could be mistaken.
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DE 1000s

Day - Mid 80s , 50-60% 1100/1300ppm
Night - Low 70s, 50% or less, 400ppm
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Bodyne said:
ORGNKID had several things going for him when he became active on the OG site, he had good grow skills, a passion for cannabis and what lied within the genetics of each plant but most of all he had some of the best genetics to work with at the time. His clone library at the time was the most envied of all and many people were constantly requesting trades with him, and one great example of this is his contribution of GHOST OG to the community. To ORGNKID it was just the original cut of OG Kush (he claims it is) and he sold a cutting to a OG forum user by the name of ‘Ghost’ and thus the Ghost OG cut was born. Not only has this cut gone on to be the basis of many strains, its also the basis of rare dankness’ main studs – Rare dankness #1 & #2. The cut frequently tests at high percentages and is considered to be one of the most elite og cuts there is even still (giving some credence to his claim that it’s the original imo)

Soon after people saw photos he was posting of the Ghost Og he was growing and heard that he had sold ‘Ghost’ a cut, the demand for his product increased. As a pure coincidence the process of creating feminized seeds by reversing a plants sex (with colloidal silver) had just been brought to the attention of the online cannabis community. ORGNKID decided he would create S1s of his OG Kush for the community (taking 2 cuttings of the same Ghost OG and reversing the sex of one of them so it creates pollen). These seeds have now gone down as legend as many of the offspring produced by these seeds are now considered legendary. Its highly speculated that Swerve of the Cali Con received some of these seeds and SFV OG is simply an S1 of Ghost OG, which does fit the general time scale of things. Further speculation has suggested these seeds ended up being the various OG cuts floating around the SFV area at the time (Tahoe, Larry, Hells Angels) however one OG Kush offspring we know for sure resulted from these S1 seeds is XXX Og. This is the king Indica OG of all the cuts, it has a heavy lemon taste and smell, with menthol undertones, and a narcotic and sedating stone, with the inference being that the Paki Vally recessive genetics of OG had been more expressed in this cutting. Regardless of the source XXX Og is definitely one of my preferred cuts of OG kush, however the next chapter in ORGNKID’s saga is his introduction of the Banana OG.

So exotic's Triple OG is Ghost S1 renamed? $300 a pack?
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Speaking of ORGNKID's Banana OG, it's looking like Texas Butter could be a killer strain if it finishes well.
It's rated as 'short-medium' but should be 'medium-tall'.
I've got one in a 10 gal that's taller than me (6'1"). :shock:
 
J

jayblaze710

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2easy said:
who really knows what to believe. if you look on phylos there is 61 different cuts sent in that are all genetically identical and they range in names that pretty much cover all the bases, ghost OG, SFV, tahoe, Larry and the list goes on. would an S1 be genetically identical to the parent yet express differently?

are they all the same cut that just expresses differently after spending years in different peoples gardens or is it possible that there is just one cut that was renamed 61 different times and it was unlucky enough that every og cut sent into to phylos was that one cut and none of the legit cuts were ever sent in. seems unlikely.

or is phylos just simply not that accurate in there genome testing and close enough is good enough

and more importantly.... in the end does it matter. are you happy with what your smoking lol
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Long, slightly off topic, slightly ranty post incoming.

I have very real problems with Phylos. Back in a different life, I did evolutionary genomics research. It involved sequencing random snippets of DNA across the entire genome, and comparing these snippets of DNA from hundreds of individuals against each other to determine their phylogenetic relationships, identifying regions of the genome underlying specific traits, and to identify genomic regions under selection in different habitats. I don’t do anything even remotely similar anymore, but I do have a very strong background in genomics research.

There are some giant pitfalls that can make genomic analysis extremely misleading. This is why scientific papers are extremely long and extremely dry. The majority of the paper is simply outlining the methods used so other scientists can determine if the results are justified or not.

These issues include but are not limited to 3 big things. What region or regions of the genome are being sequenced and analyzed? What algorithms are being used for the analysis? Finally, what is the complete data set used for the analysis?

The data set...without a sufficiently large data set, results can be deceiving. This is why your ancestry.com or 23&me results can change over time. Your dna isn’t changing, their data set is becoming larger and more complete. (Side note - I think those sites are a ripoff).

Algorithms...this is a hugely complex topic, but suffice to say, there are multiple different methods for analyzing genomic data, some are better suited than others for specific analyses or regions of the genome. Selecting the correct algorithm is a very important aspect of any genomic analysis.

What genomic region or regions are being sequenced. It’s important to understand that every organism’s genome doesn’t have one specific lineage. Rather, the genome is composed of thousands and thousands of genomic regions that all have their own distinct lineage. A gene that has undergone strong selection in multiple unrelated populations will lead someone to erroneously deduce that the populations are closely related. For a relationship analysis of closely related plants, you ideally want to sequence from thousands of genomic regions throughout the entire genome. At this point, I have no idea what genomic regions are being sequenced by phylos, but I do have some guesses. In short, I don’t think their analyses are particularly accurate because I don’t think they’re sequencing enough of the genome.

Finally, on to OGs and potential S1’s. For a poly hybrid like the OG (I’m assuming) you should absolutely be able to tell an S1 from the parent with a thorough genomic analysis. You will still get recombination of genes that are heterozygous in the parent, and a good genomic analysis can identify this. This is why I don’t find Phylos’ analyses particularly compelling. If they’re finding all OGs to be identical, then they’re not genotyping individuals to a thorough enough level. They’re likely just sequencing a few genic regions which is an outdated method of comparing relationships of related plants.

Personally, I believe all the pure OGs are either 1) renamed cuts, 2) S1’s of the original Ghost OG from Orgnkid, or 3) S1’s of S1’s. Also, I personally believe the original OG came from a Triangle Kush S1.

Here’s an interesting post from ThaDocta on OG cuts.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7664527&postcount=1849
 
2easy

2easy

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jayblaze710 said:
Long, slightly off topic, slightly ranty post incoming.

I have very real problems with Phylos. Back in a different life, I did evolutionary genomics research. It involved sequencing random snippets of DNA across the entire genome, and comparing these snippets of DNA from hundreds of individuals against each other to determine their phylogenetic relationships, identifying regions of the genome underlying specific traits, and to identify genomic regions under selection in different habitats. I don’t do anything even remotely similar anymore, but I do have a very strong background in genomics research.

There are some giant pitfalls that can make genomic analysis extremely misleading. This is why scientific papers are extremely long and extremely dry. The majority of the paper is simply outlining the methods used so other scientists can determine if the results are justified or not.

These issues include but are not limited to 3 big things. What region or regions of the genome are being sequenced and analyzed? What algorithms are being used for the analysis? Finally, what is the complete data set used for the analysis?

The data set...without a sufficiently large data set, results can be deceiving. This is why your ancestry.com or 23&me results can change over time. Your dna isn’t changing, their data set is becoming larger and more complete. (Side note - I think those sites are a ripoff).

Algorithms...this is a hugely complex topic, but suffice to say, there are multiple different methods for analyzing genomic data, some are better suited than others for specific analyses or regions of the genome. Selecting the correct algorithm is a very important aspect of any genomic analysis.

What genomic region or regions are being sequenced. It’s important to understand that every organism’s genome doesn’t have one specific lineage. Rather, the genome is composed of thousands and thousands of genomic regions that all have their own distinct lineage. A gene that has undergone strong selection in multiple unrelated populations will lead someone to erroneously deduce that the populations are closely related. For a relationship analysis of closely related plants, you ideally want to sequence from thousands of genomic regions throughout the entire genome. At this point, I have no idea what genomic regions are being sequenced by phylos, but I do have some guesses. In short, I don’t think their analyses are particularly accurate because I don’t think they’re sequencing enough of the genome.

Finally, on to OGs and potential S1’s. For a poly hybrid like the OG (I’m assuming) you should absolutely be able to tell an S1 from the parent with a thorough genomic analysis. You will still get recombination of genes that are heterozygous in the parent, and a good genomic analysis can identify this. This is why I don’t find Phylos’ analyses particularly compelling. If they’re finding all OGs to be identical, then they’re not genotyping individuals to a thorough enough level. They’re likely just sequencing a few genic regions which is an outdated method of comparing relationships of related plants.

Personally, I believe all the pure OGs are either 1) renamed cuts, 2) S1’s of the original Ghost OG from Orgnkid, or 3) S1’s of S1’s. Also, I personally believe the original OG came from a Triangle Kush S1.

Here’s an interesting post from ThaDocta on OG cuts.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7664527&postcount=1849
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thats actually very helpful thanks for taking the time to type it out. i enjoy a little peek at phylos quite often but never put too much stock in it. its just a general interest sort of thing.

As for the OG's i dont really care as im in australia anyway so i will never see one of the original cuts. i make do with some pretty nice hybrids though so i cant complain
 
Lurpin

Lurpin

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2easy said:
thats actually very helpful thanks for taking the time to type it out. i enjoy a little peek at phylos quite often but never put too much stock in it. its just a general interest sort of thing.

As for the OG's i dont really care as im in australia anyway so i will never see one of the original cuts. i make do with some pretty nice hybrids though so i cant complain
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I feel your pain... I've been trying to string together a shipment of real cuts out here to the Pacific and the logistics of trying to find someone to ship clones is tiring.

Edit: How does someone like orgnkid get all the cuts and stuff that he was using for his library? Or how does Gu~ get his cuts. It seems like the community is pretty walled off if you ask me. I see people like oni seeds and symbiotic genetics gifting cuts to certain people on IG. It makes me scratch my head like how do I get some..
 
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