fiat currency is legal theft

[Fogdog]

that doesn't mean government prints the currency...

you want to try again?

Fiat money is money made by decree. You said earlier that the reason governments can grow ever larger is because of fiat money. If that's true -- and I'm not saying it is, I'm just following your train of logic -- then why taxes at all?

So, yes, it's a leading question because the answer is that fiat money can't just be printed by fiat. Governments can't outgrow their economy without a correction later on. Basically, I'm calling bullshit on your statements.

 

[moving_shadow]

in most countries, the federal reserve banks issue money, and they are controlled, directly or indirectly, by the governments of those countries

central banks are privately owned...

you are making up things as you go along, I would suggest you post a reference to support this statement that governments control central banks, in any event, they are two distinct institutions

 

[moving_shadow]

Fiat money is money made by decree. You said earlier that the reason governments can grow ever larger is because of fiat money. If that's true -- and I'm not saying it is, I'm just following your train of logic -- then why taxes at all?

So, yes, it's a leading question because the answer is that fiat money can't just be printed by fiat. Governments can't outgrow their economy without a correction later on. Basically, I'm calling bullshit on your statements.

if you want to read half of what I say and ignore the rest, don't expect me to take you seriously

 

[Fogdog]

if you want to read half of what I say and ignore the rest, don't expect me to take you seriously

I don't speak gibberish. Perhaps you could use English?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

"cen·tral bank
ˈsentrəl baNGk/
noun
noun: central bank; plural noun: central banks

1. a national bank that provides financial and banking services for its country's government and commercial banking system, as well as implementing the government's monetary policy and issuing currency.

sound like two different entities to you?

countries that use reserve banks, that are government controlled

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rupee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_yen.......
this is just what i could dredge up in ten minutes. if i had any interest in continuing, i could fill a page

 

[moving_shadow]

"cen·tral bank
ˈsentrəl baNGk/
noun
noun: central bank; plural noun: central banks

1. a national bank that provides financial and banking services for its country's government and commercial banking system, as well as implementing the government's monetary policy and issuing currency.

sound like two different entities to you?

okay then....moving along

South Africa is one of the few countries that have private shareholders in the central bank.

 

[Fogdog]

"cen·tral bank
ˈsentrəl baNGk/
noun
noun: central bank; plural noun: central banks

1. a national bank that provides financial and banking services for its country's government and commercial banking system, as well as implementing the government's monetary policy and issuing currency.

sound like two different entities to you?

countries that use reserve banks, that are government controlled

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rupee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sterling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_yen.......
this is just what i could dredge up in ten minutes. if i had any interest in continuing, i could fill a page

The guy uses the same words you and I do but he has his own definitions for them. When asked, he doesn't explain.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i'm not even trying to be a dick, he's either using the wrong word, or he read some bad info. because most if not all central banks are government institutions that work directly under federal control.

 

[moving_shadow]

i'm not even trying to be a dick, he's either using the wrong word, or he read some bad info. because most if not all central banks are government institutions that work directly under federal control.

that actually makes the whole currency situation even more scary though

 

[UncleBuck]

The Democrats running an unlikable candidate because it was “her turn” is why he’s in power.

Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

 

[UncleBuck]

Do you think she was the best person for the job?

I don’t.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

that actually makes the whole currency situation even more scary though

i won't say you're wrong about that

 

[kelly4]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Lol.

Why would I be crying? You’re the one crying about it. They can throw her out there again for all I care.

 

[Fogdog]

Lol.

Why would I be crying? You’re the one crying about it. They can throw her out there again for all I care.

You are as cryptic as the shadow guy.

 

[Fogdog]

that actually makes the whole currency situation even more scary though

Why?

 

[Lucky Luke]

also I did not say racism or borders were created by paper money

Yes you did. " the issues we experience (inequality, racism, terrorism, pollution, debt etc) are all a direct result of paper money"

 

[Lucky Luke]

The Democrats running an unlikable candidate because it was “her turn” is why he’s in power.

So your saying "if' voting was compulsory he still would of won?

 

[kelly4]

So your saying "if' voting was compulsory he still would of won?

I’m saying that a large number of people won’t vote for a candidate that they don’t like.

 

[kelly4]

If they made voting mandatory Hillary would have won.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

well, not sure it's actually scarie

I’m saying that a large number of people won’t vote for a candidate that they don’t like.

but will they still vote, and for who? if a hardcore republican hates the republican candidate, will he even bother voting?