First timer needing "checking on"

[1212ham]

I'm guessing higher value PPSF or watts per square foot means better. My tent is 1.2m x 1.2m and height 1.6m. The equipment I have is all my budget would allow me.

More light isn't always better, you can definitely over do it. For flowering, 30W/ft. or 320W/square meter is a common recommendation for efficient, white LED. I believe around 500w/meter is recommended for Mars and other lights using the blurple Epistar diodes. BTW, the actual power rating of the mars 600 II Epistar is 83W in veg, and 260W for flower. Turn on both switches! You really should have more light for flower.

On a budget, I suggest adding something like 80 actual watts of common household LEDs. They are typically 8-10 actual watts for a 60w "equivalent" bulb. As for the color temperature, 2700K-4000K/soft white is best for flowering. If you look on the package, it should give the actual watts and color temperature. Removing in the globe/diffuser will increase light output. Florescent tubes are another option. Bottom line, get more light in there anyway you can.

I'm no expert, so your best bet is to ask for supplemental light suggestions in the LED section. There are some seriously knowledgeable people over there. https://www.rollitup.org/f/led-and-other-lighting.124/

Avoid Platinum and other blurple lights. White light is what you want, COBs, strips or boards. I like strips for the high efficiency and superb distribution.

Some efficient and very effective LED...

http://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/
www.diyleduk.co.uk
https://true-northern-lighting.myshopify.com
https://www.omegalight.net
www.Cobkits.com
https://www.rapidled.com/vero29-3-x-3-grow-kit/
www.timbergrowlights.com
www.cutter.com.au
https://www.todogrowled.com

 

[Capn-Crunch]

If you don't care , let it go dude.
I don't smoke outdoor weed because it's low quality, I prefer QUALITY over QUANTITY.
No weed grown outside, not looked after and harvested is suitable enough for me.
Aside from what I grow , I'm smoking Berners and the Jungle Boys weed.

What you described sounds like REGGIE! I'm good . Yuck

I can tell a lot from your last post. You need not say anymore, lol.
An old quote I just love seems appropriate here.
"You need to piss with the puppies before you can run with the dogs"

 

[Lola Grows]

I can tell a lot from your last post. You need not say anymore, lol.
An old quote I just love seems appropriate here.
"You need to piss with the puppies before you can run with the dogs"

Well it’s so old , I don’t even understand what it means. Thank goodness we’re finally done so you can move on.

Enjoy the rest of your week. Bye

 

[BaROne123]

More light isn't always better, you can definitely over do it. For flowering, 30W/ft. or 320W/square meter is a common recommendation for efficient, white LED. I believe around 500w/meter is inrecommended for Mars and other lights using the blurple Epistar diodes. BTW, the actual power rating of the mars 600 II Epistar is 83W in veg, and 260W for flower. Turn on both switches! You really should have more light for flower.

On a budget, I suggest adding something like 80 actual watts of common household LEDs. They are typically 8-10 actual watts for a 60w "equivalent" bulb. As for the color temperature, 2700K-4000K/soft white is best for flowering. If you look on the package, it should give the actual watts and color temperature. Removing in the globe/diffuser will increase light output. Florescent tubes are another option. Bottom line, get more light in there anyway you can.

I'm no expert, so your best bet is to ask for supplemental light suggestions in the LED section. There are some seriously knowledgeable people over there. https://www.rollitup.org/f/led-and-other-lighting.124/

Avoid Platinum and other blurple lights. White light is what you want, COBs, strips or boards. I like strips for the high efficiency and superb distribution.

Some efficient and very effective LED...

http://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/
www.diyleduk.co.uk
https://true-northern-lighting.myshopify.com
https://www.omegalight.net
www.Cobkits.com
https://www.rapidled.com/vero29-3-x-3-grow-kit/
www.timbergrowlights.com
www.cutter.com.au
https://www.todogrowled.com

Many thanks for the advice and for the detailed information.

I can tell a lot from your last post. You need not say anymore, lol.
An old quote I just love seems appropriate here.
"You need to piss with the puppies before you can run with the dogs"

More light isn't always better, you can definitely over do it. For flowering, 30W/ft. or 320W/square meter is a common recommendation for efficient, white LED. I believe around 500w/meter is recommended for Mars and other lights using the blurple Epistar diodes. BTW, the actual power rating of the mars 600 II Epistar is 83W in veg, and 260W for flower. Turn on both switches! You really should have more light for flower.

On a budget, I suggest adding something like 80 actual watts of common household LEDs. They are typically 8-10 actual watts for a 60w "equivalent" bulb. As for the color temperature, 2700K-4000K/soft white is best for flowering. If you look on the package, it should give the actual watts and color temperature. Removing in the globe/diffuser will increase light output. Florescent tubes are another option. Bottom line, get more light in there anyway you can.

I'm no expert, so your best bet is to ask for supplemental light suggestions in the LED section. There are some seriously knowledgeable people over there. https://www.rollitup.org/f/led-and-other-lighting.124/

Avoid Platinum and other blurple lights. White light is what you want, COBs, strips or boards. I like strips for the high efficiency and superb distribution.

Some efficient and very effective LED...

http://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/
www.diyleduk.co.uk
https://true-northern-lighting.myshopify.com
https://www.omegalight.net
www.Cobkits.com
https://www.rapidled.com/vero29-3-x-3-grow-kit/
www.timbergrowlights.com
www.cutter.com.au
https://www.todogrowled.com

More light isn't always better, you can definitely over do it. For flowering, 30W/ft. or 320W/square meter is a common recommendation for efficient, white LED. I believe around 500w/meter is recommended for Mars and other lights using the blurple Epistar diodes. BTW, the actual power rating of the mars 600 II Epistar is 83W in veg, and 260W for flower. Turn on both switches! You really should have more light for flower.

On a budget, I suggest adding something like 80 actual watts of common household LEDs. They are typically 8-10 actual watts for a 60w "equivalent" bulb. As for the color temperature, 2700K-4000K/soft white is best for flowering. If you look on the package, it should give the actual watts and color temperature. Removing in the globe/diffuser will increase light output. Florescent tubes are another option. Bottom line, get more light in there anyway you can.

I'm no expert, so your best bet is to ask for supplemental light suggestions in the LED section. There are some seriously knowledgeable people over there. https://www.rollitup.org/f/led-and-other-lighting.124/

Avoid Platinum and other blurple lights. White light is what you want, COBs, strips or boards. I like strips for the high efficiency and superb distribution.

Some efficient and very effective LED...

http://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/
www.diyleduk.co.uk
https://true-northern-lighting.myshopify.com
https://www.omegalight.net
www.Cobkits.com
https://www.rapidled.com/vero29-3-x-3-grow-kit/
www.timbergrowlights.com
www.cutter.com.au
https://www.todogrowled.com

Many Thanks for the advice and for the valuable information/tips.
I will definitely research. I am enjoying the learning.

 

[Capn-Crunch]

Well it’s so old , I don’t even understand what it means. Thank goodness we’re finally done so you can move on.

Enjoy the rest of your week. Bye

You as well. Bye

 

[5BY5LEC]

Hey, how are the plants coming along?
As far as the light, finish it out with what you got. Then you can re-evaluate if growing is something you want to stick with. If it is, you can take your grow to the next level with a better light. Problem solved.
Have you found a solution to the height issue?

 

[1212ham]

I think it would shame to have week flowering after getting this far..... I'll post a budget option tonight... some of the Quantum Board knock-offs aren't bad for those on a tight budget....

To the OP, if it's in the budget, this would really help and is a long term investment rather than a band aid. Top shelf efficiency and efficacy, will reduce heat and save electricity for years to come. Excellent resale value! https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/kits/products/135w-qb-v2-led-kit

Lamp Efficacy with QB 288 V2 2.41 µmol/J , 166Lm/W
Board Level Efficacy with QB 288 V2 2.58 µmol/J , 177.5Lm/W

 

[BaROne123]

Hey, how are the plants coming along?
As far as the light, finish it out with what you got. Then you can re-evaluate if growing is something you want to stick with. If it is, you can take your grow to the next level with a better light. Problem solved.
Have you found a solution to the height issue?

Many thanks for the advise. And for asking how things are going. I got more height by using the "super crop" method. Lots of flowers showing. Not sure they will become much. But that's fine. The importance this time round was to learn the basics. I have def learnt from all of you and therefore am planning my second grow. Again LED but a lot more wattage. I am considering buying 2 x mars full spectrum 1600w. If it wasn't for the height restrictions I would look at different types of lighting. I shall try photograph tonight.

 

[BaROne123]

I think it would shame to have week flowering after getting this far..... I'll post a budget option tonight... some of the Quantum Board knock-offs aren't bad for those on a tight budget....

To the OP, if it's in the budget, this would really help and is a long term investment rather than a band aid. Top shelf efficiency and efficacy, will reduce heat and save electricity for years to come. Excellent resale value! https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/kits/products/135w-qb-v2-led-kit

Lamp Efficacy with QB 288 V2 2.41 µmol/J , 166Lm/W
Board Level Efficacy with QB 288 V2 2.58 µmol/J , 177.5Lm/W

Thank you for the message and for equipment recommendations. I am definitely looking/researching. The information is def welcome.

 

[J.James]

Thank you for the message and for equipment recommendations. I am definitely looking/researching. The information is def welcome.

I use a Platinum Led P300 in a 2 x 4 x 5 tent, The footprint of the light is 2.5 x 3.5 at 18+ Inches from the canape top. The heat output in bloom is only 4 degrees higher then the room temp outside the tent if heat is an issue for your grow space. I have had good luck with Platinum Led and ran 2 - P150's before I got this P300 and had good luck with them also in the same space. For your first grow your plants look great! Keep it up and remember to keep a journal to track what works and what doesn't, It has helped me a lot! Keep Growing Brother

 

[BaROne123]

More light isn't always better, you can definitely over do it. For flowering, 30W/ft. or 320W/square meter is a common recommendation for efficient, white LED. I believe around 500w/meter is recommended for Mars and other lights using the blurple Epistar diodes. BTW, the actual power rating of the mars 600 II Epistar is 83W in veg, and 260W for flower. Turn on both switches! You really should have more light for flower.

On a budget, I suggest adding something like 80 actual watts of common household LEDs. They are typically 8-10 actual watts for a 60w "equivalent" bulb. As for the color temperature, 2700K-4000K/soft white is best for flowering. If you look on the package, it should give the actual watts and color temperature. Removing in the globe/diffuser will increase light output. Florescent tubes are another option. Bottom line, get more light in there anyway you can.

I'm no expert, so your best bet is to ask for supplemental light suggestions in the LED section. There are some seriously knowledgeable people over there. https://www.rollitup.org/f/led-and-other-lighting.124/

Avoid Platinum and other blurple lights. White light is what you want, COBs, strips or boards. I like strips for the high efficiency and superb distribution.

Some efficient and very effective LED...

http://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/
www.diyleduk.co.uk
https://true-northern-lighting.myshopify.com
https://www.omegalight.net
www.Cobkits.com
https://www.rapidled.com/vero29-3-x-3-grow-kit/
www.timbergrowlights.com
www.cutter.com.au
https://www.todogrowled.com

And the LED forum/link is perfect. Many thanks

 

[pulpoinspace]

BTW, the actual power rating of the mars 600 II Epistar is 83W in veg, and 260W for flower. Turn on both switches!

imo, this is the most important thing anyone has replied. mars has you believe you're working with 600w but you're actually working with 260w. and thats if you have the mars II. if you have the regular mars 600 from amazon you're actually only working with 132w! calculate how much power you need based on power draw from the wall not from the names of fixtures.

 

[1212ham]

Good point, then factor in the terrible efficiency and efficacy. We don't even know exactly, mars never gives a proper light output specification!
I believe all the companies I listed earlier do. I want to see µmol/J, PPF or even lumens!

https://fluence.science/science/how-to-compare-grow-lights/
https://fluence.science/science/par-ppf-ppfd-dli/

 

[BaROne123]

Good point, then factor in the terrible efficiency and efficacy. We don't even know exactly, mars never gives a proper light output specification!
I believe all the companies I listed earlier do. I want to see µmol/J, PPF or even lumens!

https://fluence.science/science/how-to-compare-grow-lights/
https://fluence.science/science/par-ppf-ppfd-dli/

Many thanks for the advice and technical info on actual LED wattage etc. I will def look into the links you sent.
Thank you.