Gillum’s miraculous night

[londonfog]

sometimes my people can be loving to a fault too..or do you not see it that way?

not to a fault but they can be loving.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

not to a fault but they can be loving.

I am not one of "her people".

 

[londonfog]

I am not one of "her people".

and you are not loving to a fault nor I'm I.
I stopped turning the other cheek long ago

 

[TacoMac]

now we all get to see how a bernie style progressive does in a moderately republican state

The same thing is happening here in Georgia.

I hate to be the harbinger of doom, but something occurs to me:

I think the GOP actually helped Gillum and Abrams win. Reason being, once it's down to two people for the governorship and everybody sees that one of them is black, it's going to turn into a landslide victory for the GOP candidate even if he's Lucifer himself.

Frankly, I think both elections are going to turn out to be complete landslide GOP victories. I hope like hell I'm wrong, but my gut tells me I'm not.

 

[schuylaar]

'we better not monkey this thing up..' -Republican Gubernatorial Candidate Ron DeSantis on Florida Governor's Race

he just lost to Andrew Gillum..hope DeSantis doesn't show his face anywhere.

 

[Fogdog]

whats wrong with the 1% wishing to support a progressive agenda..? have you ever heard of robin hood, scarlet pimpernel?

Nothing is wrong with this. @Padawanbater2 has been pushing the idea that the simple act of accepting legal campaign donations corrupts the politician. I agree that the high dollar campaigns and high donor contributions give too much access to lawmaking but reject that any politician who accepts legal campaign donations is corrupt. Gillum isn't necessarily corrput because of Soro's donations.

In my opinion, In order to win in this environment, Gillum needs a big campaign which means big campaign spending. I might even donate even though I'm in Oregon. Trump-style Republicans who have no issue with big dollar donations or unlimited access by wealthy people to lawmakers will certainly be spending big time.

I also totally agree that once Democrats are in control of government we should hold them accountable for reforming the campaign financing system.

This is too nuanced for some people.

And I sincerely wish the four Sanders-endorsed governor candidates running against Republicans this fall the very best.

 

[schuylaar]

Nothing is wrong with this. @Padawanbater2 has been pushing the idea that the simple act of accepting legal campaign donations corrupts the politician. I agree that the high dollar campaigns and high donor contributions give too much access to lawmaking but reject that any politician who accepts legal campaign donations is corrupt. Gillum isn't necessarily corrput because of Soro's donations.

In my opinion, In order to win in this environment, Gillum needs a big campaign which means big campaign spending. I might even donate even though I'm in Oregon. Trump-style Republicans who have no issue with big dollar donations or unlimited access by wealthy people to lawmakers will certainly be spending big time.

I also totally agree that once Democrats are in control of government we should hold them accountable for reforming the campaign financing system.

This is too nuanced for some people.

And I sincerely wish the four Sanders-endorsed governor candidates running against Republicans this fall the very best.

do you ever shut up?

 

[Fogdog]

The same thing is happening here in Georgia.

I hate to be the harbinger of doom, but something occurs to me:

I think the GOP actually helped Gillum and Abrams win. Reason being, once it's down to two people for the governorship and everybody sees that one of them is black, it's going to turn into a landslide victory for the GOP candidate even if he's Lucifer himself.

Frankly, I think both elections are going to turn out to be complete landslide GOP victories. I hope like hell I'm wrong, but my gut tells me I'm not.

the voters didn't know they were black beforehand?

 

[Fogdog]

do you ever shut up?

Gillum isn't corrupted by Soros because he accepted huge-sized donations. I do wish him the very best. He's going to need that money.

This is too nuanced for some people.

 

[schuylaar]

The same thing is happening here in Georgia.

I hate to be the harbinger of doom, but something occurs to me:

I think the GOP actually helped Gillum and Abrams win. Reason being, once it's down to two people for the governorship and everybody sees that one of them is black, it's going to turn into a landslide victory for the GOP candidate even if he's Lucifer himself.

Frankly, I think both elections are going to turn out to be complete landslide GOP victories. I hope like hell I'm wrong, but my gut tells me I'm not.

guess that's what they thought when obama was running..too much conspiracy theory.

you're a smart man..the deep state doesn't exist..there is no one who's going to snipe The Cheeto King for us..it's all us and russia.

 

[schuylaar]

Gillum isn't corrupted by Soros because he accepted huge-sized donations. I do wish him the very best. He's going to need that money.

This is too nuanced for some people.

i know you can't understand..but i think the 'monkey' nuance just killed desantis campaign,

 

[schuylaar]

the saying is 'muddy'..'we don't want to muddy this thing up' and yet desantis used 'monkey'.

 

[Fogdog]

i know you can't understand..but i think the 'monkey' nuance just killed desantis campaign,

That would be great.

Also, I want to point out that just because Gillum accepted a large donation from Soros, it doesn't mean he's corrupt. The point is to win. It will be really nice to see a liberal progressive win the governor's seat in Florida.

 

[Fogdog]

i know you can't understand..but i think the 'monkey' nuance just killed desantis campaign,

I sincerely wish the four Sanders-endorsed governor candidates running against Republicans this fall the very best.

 

[Herb & Suds]

i know you can't understand..but i think the 'monkey' nuance just killed desantis campaign,

Hmm you realize his supporters are the same people who still support Trump ?
And voter turnout was stronger for Republicans ?

 

[blaze 57]

What makes you believe Gillum will defeat Desantis in the general election but other progressives running in conservative states/districts on the same platform can't? Why is Florida different?

He uses the same analogy during the Trump/Hillary campaign.

 

[schuylaar]

Hmm you realize his supporters are the same people who still support Trump ?
And voter turnout was stronger for Republicans ?

that was before desantis said 'we can't monkey this thing up'.

address it, men.

 

[Fogdog]

He uses the same analogy during the Trump/Hillary campaign.

Now we get to see how a Sanders endorsed progressive candidate does against a Trump endorsed one. In Florida, where demographics are gradually turning against the right wing Trumpers. It's a good test of new ideas vs old.

Also Stacy Abrams in Georgia. Although the Sanders group were slow to endorse her, they came around.

I sincerely wish Abrams and Gillum the very best. Every defeat of a Republican is a good one.

 

[Herb & Suds]

that was before desantis said 'we can't monkey this thing up'.

address it, men.

I'm pretty sure I just did
Racism won when Trump did

 

[schuylaar]

Now we get to see how a Sanders endorsed progressive candidate does against a Trump endorsed one. In Florida, where demographics are gradually turning against the right wing Trumpers. It's a good test of new ideas vs old.

Also Stacy Abrams in Georgia. Although the Sanders group were slow to endorse her, they came around.

I sincerely wish Abrams and Gillum the very best. Every defeat of a Republican is a good one.

i guess it's only when i say 'monkey', that matters.