Good alternative for Pentane?

[Bodyne]

Freon?

it had a name like chemical with numbers, lol, I can't remember, I just remember in early days of BHO out there, they were trying many diff solvents, it was before they were vacuum purging it and I got so burnt on it, I can't smoke any to this day. And I can't get over the RSO uses hexane as a solvent. Not sure if they still do, think its come a long way in last 5 yrs.

 

[gwpharms]

The low purge heat required to make shatter stable won't allow you to get 0 ppm unless it is a solventless extraction. Wax, crumble, and distillate sure. Shatter will have something. They don't put solvent numbers on test labels in WA. It just won't pass if it's above. Labels only list cannabinoid they are even eliminating the harvest date stamp. Wtf? WA has by far the most inexpensive recreational market also a better variety than other rec. Legal states according to High Times. Which really sucks for mom an pop growers that have to sell so cheap it doesn't cover their grow expenses. When WA legalized cannabis recreationally the craigslist/offer-up type websites where full of free grow equipment everyone gave up. Those who didn't are trafficking out of state or growing for personal.

it can be done in a matter of hours not days and save your terps but nobody doing it is going to tell you how. working with glass tubes easy bake ovens and harbor freight vacuum pumps wont cut it anyways. It's not what those things were originally intended for. They are vacuum assisted dessicating ovens or silicone mold degassing chambers re purposed so they can sell them to guys like us. I recommend to everyone, forget cannabis for a while and learn chemistry. From the beginning.
Your looking at this through a very narrow scope and jumping into the middle without seeing what you left behind. that is inhibiting. You won't be able to see what's ahead either your stuck in the middle. And also your learning from people on the internet who may or may not really know what they are talking about. Lots of inaccurate info online and on this forum especially.
Extraction distillation filtration crytalization. Learn to extract other things,distill something, ferment, purify by recrytalizing something, synthesize something from another thing.
and filter. Utilize something besides filter paper.
If you're partial to essential oils there is a vast world if them to extract and experiment with.

 

[gwpharms]

it had a name like chemical with numbers, lol, I can't remember, I just remember in early days of BHO out there, they were trying many diff solvents, it was before they were vacuum purging it and I got so burnt on it, I can't smoke any to this day. And I can't get over the RSO uses hexane as a solvent. Not sure if they still do, think its come a long way in last 5 yrs.

Ethanol is the only acceptable way to make rso in my state. I think Rick Simpson only recommended hexane and all sorts of other denatured solvents because in most states 95% ethanol is not available otc but everything else can be purchased from any hardware store in any state.
Ethanol is easy to get now through the mail from lots of online vendors. $25 hazmat shipping fee though

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

it can be done in a matter of hours not days and save your terps but nobody doing it is going to tell you how. working with glass tubes easy bake ovens and harbor freight vacuum pumps wont cut it anyways. It's not what those things were originally intended for. They are vacuum assisted dessicating ovens or silicone mold degassing chambers re purposed so they can sell them to guys like us. I recommend to everyone, forget cannabis for a while and learn chemistry. From the beginning.
Your looking at this through a very narrow scope and jumping into the middle without seeing what you left behind. that is inhibiting. You won't be able to see what's ahead either your stuck in the middle. And also your learning from people on the internet who may or may not really know what they are talking about. Lots of inaccurate info online and on this forum especially.
Extraction distillation filtration crytalization. Learn to extract other things,distill something, ferment, purify by recrytalizing something, synthesize something from another thing.
and filter. Utilize something besides filter paper.
If you're partial to essential oils there is a vast world if them to extract and experiment with.

Ahhh I see you were trying to set me up to talk shit about the process I use without offering a better alternative. The funniest pat is my dad is a retired tenure chemistry professor at the University of Washington. Extraction, distillation, filtration, recrystilization. U must think you are the only one on this forum who knows anything about chemistry? I have synthesized so many different compounds. Most of which I can't list here. Some ass-hat kicked the door to my shed in and stole all of my glassware reagents, solvents ect. Ur a dick. Unless you want to teach me your magical methods, please piss off.

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

it can be done in a matter of hours not days and save your terps but nobody doing it is going to tell you how. working with glass tubes easy bake ovens and harbor freight vacuum pumps wont cut it anyways. It's not what those things were originally intended for. They are vacuum assisted dessicating ovens or silicone mold degassing chambers re purposed so they can sell them to guys like us. I recommend to everyone, forget cannabis for a while and learn chemistry. From the beginning.
Your looking at this through a very narrow scope and jumping into the middle without seeing what you left behind. that is inhibiting. You won't be able to see what's ahead either your stuck in the middle. And also your learning from people on the internet who may or may not really know what they are talking about. Lots of inaccurate info online and on this forum especially.
Extraction distillation filtration crytalization. Learn to extract other things,distill something, ferment, purify by recrytalizing something, synthesize something from another thing.
and filter. Utilize something besides filter paper.
If you're partial to essential oils there is a vast world if them to extract and experiment with.

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

I bet you don't know shit. No shit vac ovens weren't made to purge bho. They work fuckin' great though don't they? The only way you can get 0 ppm of residual solvent in a few hours is solventless extraction. Not what I'm talking about.

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

Ethanol is the only acceptable way to make rso in my state. I think Rick Simpson only recommended hexane and all sorts of other denatured solvents because in most states 95% ethanol is not available otc but everything else can be purchased from any hardware store in any state.
Ethanol is easy to get now through the mail from lots of online vendors. $25 hazmat shipping fee though

See ur just making rso. Wow. Such a secret. I make all kinds of concentrates. Solvent based and solventless. I can already tell you are not here to spread information and/or help people with a cool lab write up mr. Chemistry. You just want to play "know-it-all"&" im better than you" If that's the case why? I'm just trying to help people with problems I have had also, and then solved. I started two threads with 2 questions I have, but nobody knows the answer either I guess. I'm sure u would. Probably won't say though, right? This guy. On a information forum, "but I can't tell u my methods" LMFAO. If you want to talk chemistry I'll give you my phone number.

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

it can be done in a matter of hours not days and save your terps but nobody doing it is going to tell you how. working with glass tubes easy bake ovens and harbor freight vacuum pumps wont cut it anyways. It's not what those things were originally intended for. They are vacuum assisted dessicating ovens or silicone mold degassing chambers re purposed so they can sell them to guys like us. I recommend to everyone, forget cannabis for a while and learn chemistry. From the beginning.
Your looking at this through a very narrow scope and jumping into the middle without seeing what you left behind. that is inhibiting. You won't be able to see what's ahead either your stuck in the middle. And also your learning from people on the internet who may or may not really know what they are talking about. Lots of inaccurate info online and on this forum especially.
Extraction distillation filtration crytalization. Learn to extract other things,distill something, ferment, purify by recrytalizing something, synthesize something from another thing.
and filter. Utilize something besides filter paper.
If you're partial to essential oils there is a vast world if them to extract and experiment with.

And what do u mean that equipment won't cut it? The guys that won the last cannabis cup on the west coast over here won the winning 1st place concentrate cup with honey comb wax made with that exact same process.

 

[gwpharms]

See ur just making rso. Wow. Such a secret. I make all kinds of concentrates. Solvent based and solventless. I can already tell you are not here to spread information and/or help people with a cool lab write up mr. Chemistry. You just want to play "know-it-all"&" im better than you" If that's the case why? I'm just trying to help people with problems I have had also, and then solved. I started two threads with 2 questions I have, but nobody knows the answer either I guess. I'm sure u would. Probably won't say though, right? This guy. On a information forum, "but I can't tell u my methods" LMFAO. If you want to talk chemistry I'll give you my phone number.

Wow. Ok then. Sounds like you know everything there is to know and need no help so I guess I don't understand what you were asking
Sorry to offend it wasn't my intention. I didnt say I wouldn't tell you anything. I am saying those doing what your trying to achieve wont tell you because it would be shooting themselves in the foot. Then their stuff would only be worth $15 a gram. I thought you were wanting to get 0ppm and keep your Terps? Just saying you cant the way your doing it. Sorry I didn't lay out the how to diy in a few paragraphs for you. Not talking bad about your process or trying to bait you into admitting anything. I understand your working within your means and budget and doing the same thing everyone else is doing. I'll say its crude.sorry.
I dont only make rso. There is alot of ways to skin a cat. Dont like to call it rso either. Rick Simpson did not invent d9 oil. I dont make that black sludge myself but I understand some people do like it that way.
Yes the equipment will cut it if you turn the temp up and give it time. But there in lies your problem I thought? I dont know anymore good luck to you sir

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

Wow. Ok then. Sounds like you know everything there is to know and need no help so I guess I don't understand what you were asking
Sorry to offend it wasn't my intention. I didnt say I wouldn't tell you anything. I am saying those doing what your trying to achieve wont tell you because it would be shooting themselves in the foot. Then their stuff would only be worth $15 a gram. I thought you were wanting to get 0ppm and keep your Terps? Just saying you cant the way your doing it. Sorry I didn't lay out the how to diy in a few paragraphs for you. Not talking bad about your process or trying to bait you into admitting anything. I understand your working within your means and budget and doing the same thing everyone else is doing. I'll say its crude.sorry.
I dont only make rso. There is alot of ways to skin a cat. Dont like to call it rso either. Rick Simpson did not invent d9 oil. I dont make that black sludge myself but I understand some people do like it that way.
Yes the equipment will cut it if you turn the temp up and give it time. But there in lies your problem I thought? I dont know anymore good luck to you sir

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

Wow. Ok then. Sounds like you know everything there is to know and need no help so I guess I don't understand what you were asking
Sorry to offend it wasn't my intention. I didnt say I wouldn't tell you anything. I am saying those doing what your trying to achieve wont tell you because it would be shooting themselves in the foot. Then their stuff would only be worth $15 a gram. I thought you were wanting to get 0ppm and keep your Terps? Just saying you cant the way your doing it. Sorry I didn't lay out the how to diy in a few paragraphs for you. Not talking bad about your process or trying to bait you into admitting anything. I understand your working within your means and budget and doing the same thing everyone else is doing. I'll say its crude.sorry.
I dont only make rso. There is alot of ways to skin a cat. Dont like to call it rso either. Rick Simpson did not invent d9 oil. I dont make that black sludge myself but I understand some people do like it that way.
Yes the equipment will cut it if you turn the temp up and give it time. But there in lies your problem I thought? I dont know anymore good luck to you sir

Maybe you need to re read your post. Then look at it from my point of view. I'm glad to hear you don't just make rso. Even "good" amber rso is to me a lower quality concentrate for cancer patients and the like. So it has its place. Edibles. Topicals. Also, I make all kinds of cannabis concentrates. The way i completely broke down for you to criticize is the most common method i use. Dual solvent being the cleanest (n-butane cannabinoid extraction+100% organic ethanol lipid extraction). I'd love to hear all your secerets man. Why are you holding out if you know something I don't? Why not spread the knowledge? Unless you actually know nothing more than the same methods im aware of. Don't start talking about short-path fractional distillation with a fucking 2 liter heating mantle and a shit ton of cold traps either. What magic are you holding back? Teach me something for all the energy I have given to your posts, all knowing one. Teach me the right way pleeease??? What am i doing wrong?

 

[gwpharms]

Lol. Ohhhhh you darn millenials.
Gimmie gimmie gimmie

 

[gwpharms]

Maybe you need to re read your post. Then look at it from my point of view. I'm glad to hear you don't just make rso. Even "good" amber rso is to me a lower quality concentrate for cancer patients and the like. So it has its place. Edibles. Topicals. Also, I make all kinds of cannabis concentrates. The way i completely broke down for you to criticize is the most common method i use. Dual solvent being the cleanest (n-butane cannabinoid extraction+100% organic ethanol lipid extraction). I'd love to hear all your secerets man. Why are you holding out if you know something I don't? Why not spread the knowledge? Unless you actually know nothing more than the same methods im aware of. Don't start talking about short-path fractional distillation with a fucking 2 liter heating mantle and a shit ton of cold traps either. What magic are you holding back? Teach me something for all the energy I have given to your posts, all knowing one. Teach me the right way pleeease??? What am i doing wrong?

Long story kid and I've not the time. Please don't take this the wrong way and sorry if it's an impossibility but, why don't you ask your father? Or maybe you have I don't know. Either way dont expect the answers in a internet forum

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

Long story kid and I've not the time. Please don't take this the wrong way and sorry if it's an impossibility but, why don't you ask your father? Or maybe you have I don't know. Either way dont expect the answers in a internet forum

Just like I thought you are a poser. You know nothing more than me. Probably not even that. Yeah, I'm gonna ask my 86 yr old dad (retired gamma specrometry chemist) some dumb ass weed shit. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be asking. Quit fronting man. Either be helpful in some way or go "synthesize" an original thought, or "extract" a personality for yourself. He said, "Don't have time". Lol. Maybe you should re-crystalize some time. Don't talk to me unless you have something useful to say.

 

[gwpharms]

Just like I thought you are a poser. You know nothing more than me. Probably not even that. Yeah, I'm gonna ask my 86 yr old dad (retired gamma specrometry chemist) some dumb ass weed shit. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be asking. Quit fronting man. Either be helpful in some way or go "synthesize" an original thought, or "extract" a personality for yourself. He said, "Don't have time". Lol. Maybe you should re-crystalize some time. Don't talk to me unless you have something useful to say.

While I do have other things going on at the moment I mean to say I have not the time for your piss poor millennial attitude and I'm guessing your dad dosen't either.
You want everything handed to you in step by step instructions with your hand being held all the way through. Your just entitled to it without putting in the work and actually achieving anything. Well here is your trophy sport thanks for showing up.

Yes you should ask your 86 year old father about "some weed shit" I'm not much younger. Old folks and dorky chemists know a thing or 2 about drugs. Dont let the gray hair and pocket protector fool you. We may not been invited to the party but we're the ones that made it happen if you know what I mean.
And why do you think he wouldn't know any thing? Are you saying there is no connection to chemistry and extracting "weed shit"You claim to have some entitled aptitude for o chem and entitlement to the knowledge because your relationship to a chemist.
Believe it or not your old man picked up a few things about chemistry along the way to his degree in spectrometry. I'm guessing there is much you dont know about your old man. He would probably be fascinated by what you're doing. Making medicine. Not saying he has all the answers right now in his back pocket. but ask him how he would solve the problems you have and make what you want to make. Guarantee he doesn't get on Google and go to some weed forum. Maybe you learn to synthesize some maturity along the way and smart people will be more apt to share info with you. Or you can stay stuck here with people that know little more than you and go around and around

Your not going to bait me into telling you anything by claiming I'm a poser. As if I would respond with the info to proove you wrong so as to bolster my internet rep. I dont care. Like you want to Take a video tour of my lab and put it on here for you and everyone to see what I have? Just so I can proove something to you? Lmao stuff like that is probably what got your shed lab broken into.

 

[Big Perm]

FFS.

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

While I do have other things going on at the moment I mean to say I have not the time for your piss poor millennial attitude and I'm guessing your dad dosen't either.
You want everything handed to you in step by step instructions with your hand being held all the way through. Your just entitled to it without putting in the work and actually achieving anything. Well here is your trophy sport thanks for showing up.

Yes you should ask your 86 year old father about "some weed shit" I'm not much younger. Old folks and dorky chemists know a thing or 2 about drugs. Dont let the gray hair and pocket protector fool you. We may not been invited to the party but we're the ones that made it happen if you know what I mean.
And why do you think he wouldn't know any thing? Are you saying there is no connection to chemistry and extracting "weed shit"You claim to have some entitled aptitude for o chem and entitlement to the knowledge because your relationship to a chemist.
Believe it or not your old man picked up a few things about chemistry along the way to his degree in spectrometry. I'm guessing there is much you dont know about your old man. He would probably be fascinated by what you're doing. Making medicine. Not saying he has all the answers right now in his back pocket. but ask him how he would solve the problems you have and make what you want to make. Guarantee he doesn't get on Google and go to some weed forum. Maybe you learn to synthesize some maturity along the way and smart people will be more apt to share info with you. Or you can stay stuck here with people that know little more than you and go around and around

Your not going to bait me into telling you anything by claiming I'm a poser. As if I would respond with the info to proove you wrong so as to bolster my internet rep. I dont care. Like you want to Take a video tour of my lab and put it on here for you and everyone to see what I have? Just so I can proove something to you? Lmao stuff like that is probably what got your shed lab broken into.

See that's the thing there is nothing I'm asking? I know all of the different extraction methods. I just wanted to prove you are full of shit. I'm not a millennial either '82 gen x. My father knows what I'm doing. I talk about it all the time. He doesn't give a shit about it. Hes old. He wishes I would have got a degree. I only took 1 semester of organic chemistry. Now I'm a builder. Wasted life in his eyes. Anyway Rick Simpson, I don't recall asking you anything? Remember you wanted me to list how I make my shatter/honeycomb wax. I did, in full write up, because you acted like you really wanted to rap about extraction, but turned out ur just a douche. I just wanted to prove that you have no more knowledge than I do on the subject (probably not even), and have nothing to teach. I did that. Now I'm gonna say it again crawl back your hole Rick. Oh, and the ethanol is for the extractions, quit drinking it. It's making you delirious. What are you doing on here anyway? Rso LMAO

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

While I do have other things going on at the moment I mean to say I have not the time for your piss poor millennial attitude and I'm guessing your dad dosen't either.
You want everything handed to you in step by step instructions with your hand being held all the way through. Your just entitled to it without putting in the work and actually achieving anything. Well here is your trophy sport thanks for showing up.

Yes you should ask your 86 year old father about "some weed shit" I'm not much younger. Old folks and dorky chemists know a thing or 2 about drugs. Dont let the gray hair and pocket protector fool you. We may not been invited to the party but we're the ones that made it happen if you know what I mean.
And why do you think he wouldn't know any thing? Are you saying there is no connection to chemistry and extracting "weed shit"You claim to have some entitled aptitude for o chem and entitlement to the knowledge because your relationship to a chemist.
Believe it or not your old man picked up a few things about chemistry along the way to his degree in spectrometry. I'm guessing there is much you dont know about your old man. He would probably be fascinated by what you're doing. Making medicine. Not saying he has all the answers right now in his back pocket. but ask him how he would solve the problems you have and make what you want to make. Guarantee he doesn't get on Google and go to some weed forum. Maybe you learn to synthesize some maturity along the way and smart people will be more apt to share info with you. Or you can stay stuck here with people that know little more than you and go around and around

Your not going to bait me into telling you anything by claiming I'm a poser. As if I would respond with the info to proove you wrong so as to bolster my internet rep. I dont care. Like you want to Take a video tour of my lab and put it on here for you and everyone to see what I have? Just so I can proove something to you? Lmao stuff like that is probably what got your shed lab broken into.

Yes, if you were legit you could walk around your lab with a video camera. Unless you are in an illegal state. "Gwpharms" G.W. Farms whatever. A lot of extraction laboratories do videos. Obviously ur still hiding under a rock. Hopefully it will become federally legal then maybe you won't be such a grumpy old man. I mean you can't even come up with your own jokes. You had to use mine. I make top shelf shatter and wax. I never asked you ANY questions. That was your poser, rso sludge makin' ass. Piss off Rick

 

[Kid Kannabi5]

FFS.

Yeah, dude I know! I know how stupid This is, and apologize for our childishness. This fucking troll won't quit. Asked him to stop unless has something to share man. I'm sorry to everyone jus trying to work a thread.

 

[gwpharms]

Yeah, dude I know! I know how stupid This is, and apologize for our childishness. This fucking troll won't quit. Asked him to stop unless has something to share man. I'm sorry to everyone jus trying to work a thread.

So young so nyeve.
I'm from A2 kiddo. The original cannabis Capitol USA. Do you know where that is. No worries about the state here. But yes you are correct about the feds. Be careful what you disclose on here sport.
Big brother is watching. I'm sincerely serious about that champ. Dont tell everyone your business on Facebook either. And then take pictures of yourself on vacation. Next thing you know your shed door gets kicked in and they steel all your stuff.
Far as taking video of my stuff, only people who do that dont really have anything going on and little to loose and they just want attention and social media likes. Then the feds kick their door in.
Your still making wax and wax derivatives and say you been doing it for years? And your still stuck on wax?!?! Top shelf wax is an oxymoron, mmmmm k kiddo? Back yard open blasted top shelf wax.lmao. and you probably think butane is the optimal solvent for cannabis because it's what you learned from Google. your stuff probably does only fetch $15 a gram retail so I can see why you have nothing to loose. Nobody wants to steel your open blasting tek. Your still perplexed by "the muffin" lol.
you really dont know what's going on there and why? And you say you know chemistry? Trying to copy some grainy you tube video? Little tip kid, nothing on YouTube is what it seems.