Just 158 families contributed half of all funding in 2016 elections

Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Sandernista said:
republicans will be tied in with Trump
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For at least the next generation to come, they will rue the day they hitched their wagon to Trumps fat ass.
They destroyed themselves by climbing on Trumps Titanic, which is rapidly sinking, and it seems that only now can they see their doom on the horizon, and I'm loving every fucking moment of it, watching them scurry around like the rats that they are, trying to jump ship.
Oh, the Agony!!! (of being a Republican today)
Very nice, indeed.:)
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Fogdog said:
Yep, it's not a fair fight. Soon as we get the chance, Gerrymandering has to go along with the Electoral College and voter ID laws. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic about our chances in 2020 but I think if Trump and his GOP continue their path of self destruction there will be a window of opportunity like we haven't seen since Watergate.
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Only problem now is that the Supreme Court is being stacked against the Dems, and if Sotomayor croaks, we are fucked.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Funny how they never tried that vote when they had a majority.

Why are you so intent on misrepresenting people so dishonestly to 'prove' your points?

If your arguments had credibility, you wouldn't need to resort to such dishonest tactics.
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LOL

They did have the majority in the Senate when they voted on it. Republicans filibustered and every Republican voted to sustain it while every Democrat voted to break it. The reason CU didn't make it out of the Senate was because of Republicans.

So, tell me, how many of your "Progressive" socialists won seats in Congress this year? Only a handful even ran, so it can't be very many. Who are these people you keep talking about? If there is a wave of "Progressive" socialism sweeping this country, who can you name that prove your point?

I quote facts. Too bad you don't like them.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
LOL

They did have the majority in the Senate when they voted on it. Republicans filibustered and every Republican voted to sustain it while every Democrat voted to break it. The reason CU didn't make it out of the Senate was because of Republicans.

So, tell me, how many of your "Progressive" socialists won seats in Congress this year? Only a handful even ran, so it can't be very many. Who are these people you keep talking about? If there is a wave of "Progressive" socialism sweeping this country, who can you name that prove your point?

I quote facts. Too bad you don't like them.
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So if they're so great at this, why didn't it pass?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
So if they're so great at this, why didn't it pass?
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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth here. In this instance you condemn Democrats for not being able to surmount a fillibuster by Republicans yet you tout Sanders health care bill as something significant -- it was never going to make it to the floor in a Republican controlled Senate. I will remind you that the bill to repeal CU was SANDERS' bill and Democrats voted to eliminate the fillibuster so that it could go forward. Occasio Cortez's statements about 70% tax rates for the wealthy, you liked, even though it hasn't even drafted into a bill and has zero chance of passage through the Senate.

Why do you dismiss the 2015 Senate Democrat's vote to repeal CU as evidence that they are in favor of campaign finance reform?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth here. In this instance you condemn Democrats for not being able to surmount a fillibuster by Republicans yet you tout Sanders health care bill as something significant -- it was never going to make it to the floor in a Republican controlled Senate. I will remind you that the bill to repeal CU was SANDERS' bill and Democrats voted to eliminate the fillibuster so that it could go forward. Occasio Cortez's statements about 70% tax rates for the wealthy, you liked, even though it hasn't even drafted into a bill and has zero chance of passage through the Senate.

Why do you dismiss the 2015 Senate Democrat's vote to repeal CU as evidence that they are in favor of campaign finance reform?
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No I'm not. I'm Democrats aren't serious about the working class and you've presented nothing to refute my assertion.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Dmannn said:
They COULD have given to the clinton foundation.
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but not the trump foundation. that got closed down due to all the illegal activity, self dealing, stealing money from kids with cancer, etc

the trumps aren't even allowed to run a charity in the state of new york anymore

LOL

now go clean your fucking yard
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
oh i guess we are changing the goalposts from "why didn't they vote on it!!!" to "why didn;t they succeed though!!!!"

maybe just ask the latter question instead of making yourself look like a dumbass then moving the goalposts
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Maybe just answer the question instead of crying so much?
 
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