How to do SoG in pots with hydro

[myke]

Lots of ideas in this forum.
I would like to somehow be able to move plants from veg to flower and also harvest every 3 weeks. Don’t need big scale. Veg room is 5x5 flower is 6x6.

Recirculated nutes in a table was what I was thinking. DTW or flood and drain are options but would like to stick to recirculating.

Pot in pot is so far what I’ve come up with. Top pot full of clay pebbles drains into bottom pot NFT kinda thing. Top feed.

Plants would be small so Rooted clones get maybe a week of veg.

Any thoughts?

 

[myke]

Some of my ideas are coming from some of the threads here.

PPK hydro is one, pot in pot then drain back to res
Harvest every two weeks is another, flood and drain that one is.
Several DTW with coco. I don’t have that option.

Some pics of a net pot in a pot. Just smaller. The lid just needs a little trim.

 

[JohnDee]

Myke,
First Ebb&Flow (or flood and drain) is a recirculating system. I did E&F for years using 400w HID on 3x3 tray ising 23 small pots filled with hydroton. It's a sweet system but you end up with a high plant count.

You're going to need more then a week of veg unless going with small pots like above.

You might want to look at Waterfarm very much like you mentioned. Bucket inside of bucket, hydroton in top bucked and fed from res in lower bucket. Nice little unit for plants around 3' tall.
JD

 

[Major Blazer]

I would use a flood table.

 

[myke]

JohnDee thx,
Small plants,single colas.12/12 right after clones are stable kinda thing.
The idea is not to have roots in the tray/flood table,if thats possible .Trim them as nessasary i guess.
Ill look up the waterfarm. cheers.

 

[Renfro]

JohnDee thx,
Small plants,single colas.12/12 right after clones are stable kinda thing.
The idea is not to have roots in the tray,if thats possible .Trim them as nessasary i guess.
Ill look up the waterfarm. cheers.

I did this for many years. Used flood tables, 6" square pots, hydroton. I put them in a 48 plants to a 4 x 4 table (7 x 7 grid minus one for where the fittings come up thru the tray). Got about 21 grams per cola or 2lbs per light

 

[Thundercat]

I did this for many years. Used flood tables, 6" square pots, hydroton. I put them in a 48 plants to a 4 x 4 table (7 x 7 grid minus one for where the fittings come up thru the tray). Got about 21 grams per cola or 2lbs per light

Yep this is basically how I grow. My plants get 1-2 weeks veg just to let the roots get established in the 6 inch pots. Then straight into flower.

I run all my plants 3-4 cycles on the same nutrients through flower from clone to harvest.

 

[myke]

I did this for many years. Used flood tables, 6" square pots, hydroton. I put them in a 48 plants to a 4 x 4 table (7 x 7 grid minus one for where the fittings come up thru the tray). Got about 21 grams per cola or 2lbs per light

This was flood and drain?

I assume roots come out the bottom and tangle with ea other?
I would need 3 trays then?

 

[Renfro]

Yep this is basically how I grow. My plants get 1-2 weeks veg just to let the roots get established in the 6 inch pots. Then straight into flower.

I run all my plants 3-4 cycles on the same nutrients through flower from clone to harvest.

I just left mine in the clone dome for 20 days and they would start trying to veg. Super rooted. Strain was Shiva. Super indica landrace, id kill to get that one back. I ran lucas with a 300 gal res, I let the nutes go the whole flower cycle with only RO top offs and just enough addback to keep PPM at 1000. Had 12 lights, 6 4 x 8 trays. Staggered 20 days apart so Id harvest 2 trays (4 lights) every 20 days for a little over 8 pounds. That was back in the day of 5k a pound wholesale too. damn I miss those days.

 

[Renfro]

I had to use a trellis rig to keep them upright as they ended up about 42 inches tall with one big cola, I would lolipop them about 20 days into flower.

 

[myke]

What I’m running into now is having different strains. Clones at different sizes/age.
In veg I’d like to be able to play around so to speak. Some moms, some clones of different sizes.allowing me to move them around from room to room. Some don’t look so good so out they go and replaced.
If that is possible.

 

[Renfro]

What I’m running into now is having different strains. Clones at different sizes/age.
In veg I’d like to be able to play around so to speak. Some moms, some clones of different sizes.allowing me to move them around from room to room. Some don’t look so good so out they go and replaced.
If that is possible.

Yeah I have no experience with that part. I only did one shotgun run with seeds to get my moms figured out and after that I just ran the fuck outta that Shiva for about 8 years.

 

[JohnDee]

The idea is not to have roots in the tray/flood table,if thats possible .Trim them as nessasary i guess.

With the small pot E&F the roots are contained in each individual pot. As roots grow outside the pot from holes in bottom... are automatically air pruned by the plant. Renfro...sounds like I had a 3' version of what you are doing.

Set it up with res underneath and pump on timer to flood tray 4 to 6 times daily. The tray empties back through the pump once it shuts off. A little fiddling setting it up...but after that easy peasy...
JD

 

[myke]

Renfro,your tables/trays where flood and drain?

 

[myke]

Gotta love this forum.
Ask a question and you get multiple experienced answers in under an hour.

 

[Keesje]

Any thoughts?

check this.
Easiest system on the forum.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-klx-way.960314/

I run all my plants 3-4 cycles on the same nutrients through flower from clone to harvest.

What do you mean by '3-4 cycles'?

 

[Thundercat]

What I’m running into now is having different strains. Clones at different sizes/age.
In veg I’d like to be able to play around so to speak. Some moms, some clones of different sizes.allowing me to move them around from room to room. Some don’t look so good so out they go and replaced.
If that is possible.

I have always liked being able to move my plants around too. Since I have various stages I growth under the same light it is handy to be able to shift the plants around and up the smaller clones in the middle with larger plants around them.

In the past I always used bamboo stakes to hold my plants up so that I could still move them.

I recently constructed some little wire cages for each plant when it goes into flower. The fencing they are made from is 1/8" or less thick so I don't think they are blocking much light and each plant has total support which I'm sure will benefit yield since the plants won't have to spend energy supporting them selves. Now I can move all my plants anytime I want.

 

[Thundercat]

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I run my garden perpetually so I put 10-12 clones into flower every 3ish weeks. They all flower together in a 4x4 flood and drain tray under my 1k hps. At any given point there is between 36-48 plants in flower. All at various stages of flower.

 

[curious2garden]

I have always liked being able to move my plants around too. Since I have various stages I growth under the same light it is handy to be able to shift the plants around and up the smaller clones in the middle with larger plants around them.

In the past I always used bamboo stakes to hold my plants up so that I could still move them.

I recently constructed some little wire cages for each plant when it goes into flower. The fencing they are made from is 1/8" or less thick so I don't think they are blocking much light and each plant has total support which I'm sure will benefit yield since the plants won't have to spend energy supporting them selves. Now I can move all my plants anytime I want.

I love these and have dozens of them in every size (from 12" to 48"), one per cola.

 

[Thundercat]

I love these and have dozens of them in every size (from 12" to 48"), one per cola.

Nice I don't know how I haven't seen those before. I'll grab a few and see how they hold in my rocks. That was one of the things I never liked about bamboo stakes they didn't hold well and my plants would still flop around when I moved them or they got real top heavy.