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londonfog

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IPX/SPX or another routable protocol that fits in the OSI model.:eyesmoke:

Your turn, explain how we would use TCP/IP without an internetwork...

I wasn’t even suggesting you were wrong with your statement or even the conclusion you imply. But if you insist... Much of both technical and medical advances are a results of war, of the will to power. Which without governments there would still surely be.
IPX/SPX for HTTP ???? Good luck with that service. Much better usage for only LAN within the office not WAN...but I'm sure you knew that.

My point we use government ideas and projects everyday. To say we don't need government is kind of stupid and would lead to chaos and a stoppage of developments.

are you against government funding medical research ? Who would pay for such research if government did not ? Please cite names. Thanks
 

Sativied

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IPX/SPX for HTTP ???? Good luck with that service. Much better usage for only LAN within the office not WAN...but I'm sure you knew that.

My point we use government ideas and projects everyday. To say we don't need government is kind of stupid and would lead to chaos and a stoppage of developments.
HTTP is part of the TCP/IP suite so that’s a rather poor example. There are zero technical obstacles to develop a hyper text transfer protocol over SPX, just as any other application layer protocol. Sure, scalability was an issue, but that was true for earlier version of tcp/ip too. In fact the still widely used v4 is an extremely and inherently flawed basis for both public and private networks that still costs the economy billions a year.

It was an example. I’m not seriously suggesting IPX/SPX should be used instead. It’s however ridiculous to suggest we need governments because only they can develop the best scalable routable protocol.

The point is, it's just as “stupid” to suggest we need a government for technological advancement as it is to say we don’t need a government at all.

are you against government funding medical research ? Who would pay for such research if government did not ? Please cite names. Thanks
I’m a socialist when it comes to healthcare. But, you’re making an arguing from ignorance fallacy. Just because you, or we, don’t see possible alternatives doesn't mean they don’t exist or cannot be created by other means. Surely, despite the false dilemma you paint, you don’t really believe the government is the only one funding medical research.
 

londonfog

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HTTP is part of the TCP/IP suite so that’s a rather poor example. There are zero technical obstacles to develop a hyper text transfer protocol over SPX, just as any other application layer protocol. Sure, scalability was an issue, but that was true for earlier version of tcp/ip too. In fact the still widely used v4 is an extremely and inherently flawed basis for both public and private networks that still costs the economy billions a year.

It was an example. I’m not seriously suggesting IPX/SPX should be used instead. It’s however ridiculous to suggest we need governments because only they can develop the best scalable routable protocol.

The point is, it's just as “stupid” to suggest we need a government for technological advancement as it is to say we don’t need a government at all.


I’m a socialist when it comes to healthcare. But, you’re making an arguing from ignorance fallacy. Just because you, or we, don’t see possible alternatives doesn't mean they don’t exist or cannot be created by other means. Surely, despite the false dilemma you paint, you don’t really believe the government is the only one funding medical research.
I can appreciated the government and her people for the good it can do for the people. I think those who say the government does nothing good are incorrect. Needs improvement in some areas. Hell yeah..but I will take it before I leave it.
I have seen chaos and anarchy and it is not a pretty sight. .
 

Rob Roy

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I can appreciated the government and her people for the good it can do for the people. I think those who say the government does nothing good are incorrect. Needs improvement in some areas. Hell yeah..but I will take it before I leave it.
I have seen chaos and anarchy and it is not a pretty sight. .

Do you think people should be drafted to "protect freedom" too?
 
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