9x9 grown room led setup

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dalack

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I found these lights on Alibaba and was wondering what you think in comparison to HLG or fluence lights.
I'm thinking about buying 4 of these 800w lights for my 9x9 shed but was wondering if its to much light since i'll need space to move around the plants.
Even at 18" above the plants this light seems to put out good PPFD numbers over 4x4 area. Do you think i'll be able to keep the lights that close or closer?
Shipping included the light is about $625 so i'll be able to fill the space for $2500.
Does anyone have a better option to use in this sized space?

Thanks in advance
David
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Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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dalack said:
I found these lights on Alibaba and was wondering what you think in comparison to HLG or fluence lights.
I'm thinking about buying 4 of these 800w lights for my 9x9 shed but was wondering if its to much light since i'll need space to move around the plants.
Even at 18" above the plants this light seems to put out good PPFD numbers over 4x4 area. Do you think i'll be able to keep the lights that close or closer?
Shipping included the light is about $625 so i'll be able to fill the space for $2500.
Does anyone have a better option to use in this sized space?

Thanks in advance
David
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I won't comment on my thought comparing between manufacturers, but I WILL tell you that 3200 w on a 9X9 is about damned near perfect.
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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dalack said:
I found these lights on Alibaba and was wondering what you think in comparison to HLG or fluence lights.
I'm thinking about buying 4 of these 800w lights for my 9x9 shed but was wondering if its to much light since i'll need space to move around the plants.
Even at 18" above the plants this light seems to put out good PPFD numbers over 4x4 area. Do you think i'll be able to keep the lights that close or closer?
Shipping included the light is about $625 so i'll be able to fill the space for $2500.
Does anyone have a better option to use in this sized space?

Thanks in advance
David
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I've never come across this light before. If it's all legit lm561's or lm301b's, Lotta people gonna be pissed.
That's a fantastic price for a light like that when people have basically paid that to DIY some Alibaba boards, had to build it, and don't get those red diodes or that perfect spacing that bars like that provide. I don't care HOW nice the Amare Solar-8/Gavita LED/or Spectrum Kings Lo-Pro bar fixture is, even with the RIU discount is literally DOUBLE the price.
 
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Fake stoker

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What is the brand of that light? Don't buy the unfamous chinese brand. There are a lot of fake suppliers. The quality cannot be recognized.
MarsHydro and Vipar are the famous chinese brands. I like MarsHydro more because their Pro II 320 is a beast. They ship from LA to my home directly. I got the light 3 days later after payment.
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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Fake stoker said:
What is the brand of that light? Don't buy the unfamous chinese brand. There are a lot of fake suppliers. The quality cannot be recognized.
MarsHydro and Vipar are the famous chinese brands. I like MarsHydro more because their Pro II 320 is a beast. They ship from LA to my home directly. I got the light 3 days later after payment.
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This is NOT the same browsing experience as with either of those brands.
This is a company (in China, where everything's fuckin made) that builds a fixture along with probably a few others, but also creates, layer, print traces, screen solder, pick and place LEDs, and reflows them to the boards with an oven. They MAKE their own PCBs and sell them individually or as kits as well.
There are Several reputable Chinese Alibaba/Aliexpress vendors that many of us have had great experiences with and whose products are still working today. Basically as bright as the first day you plugged it in.

\/ Entire thread on it. \/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-chinese-quantum-board-knock-off-builds.971560/
 
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dalack

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So they sent me this file of the inside and they use 10 80 watt Nalite power supplies which would make it run at a max of 800 watts. This is their own brand power supply but do list a 5 year warranty on the parts.
Is it ok to drive power supplies at max voltage?
I read on a different site that someone had an experience with a similar light that it measured at the wall lower closer to 700 watts
 

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Airwalker16

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dalack said:
I found these lights on Alibaba and was wondering what you think in comparison to HLG or fluence lights.
I'm thinking about buying 4 of these 800w lights for my 9x9 shed but was wondering if its to much light since i'll need space to move around the plants.
Even at 18" above the plants this light seems to put out good PPFD numbers over 4x4 area. Do you think i'll be able to keep the lights that close or closer?
Shipping included the light is about $625 so i'll be able to fill the space for $2500.
Does anyone have a better option to use in this sized space?

Thanks in advance
David
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Link to the page?
I'm seriously blown away at this price. For a 4X4, really I would bet that even just the 8 bar has more than enough PPFD everywhere. And it's obviously going to cost even less. Do you know total INCLUDING SHIPPING TO USA for the 8 bar model?
 
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Chip Green said:
It was only a matter of time before things like this began to appear....
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It's almost hard to believe how literally identical it is to the SpydrX. Same diodes, same spread, 2/5 the price. At that price, I couldn't care less bout a warranty, but you even get that.(probably impossible to use though)
 
Humple

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Hmm. Skepticism is warranted, but if they're using legit LM561C or LM301B diodes, and if the drivers are efficient and reliable, that's quite a deal. Confirmation of the components is key though (and that can be quite a challenge when buying from Alibaba). Any indication of what reds they're using?
 
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Airwalker16

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Humple said:
Hmm. Skepticism is warranted, but if they're using legit LM561C or LM301B diodes, and if the drivers are efficient and reliable, that's quite a deal. Confirmation of the components is key though (and that can be quite a challenge when buying from Alibaba). Any indication of what reds they're using?
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I'd assume they're Nichia. But I could be wrong. The data on the pics posted just say the LEDs are Samsung. But man, those Triple row strips are really dope.
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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dalack said:
https://m.alibaba.com/product/60773047793/Waterproof-Full-spectrum-quantum-board-640w.html?spm=a2706.7835515.0.0.42886055UBoy3A

$525 with local dimming and wifi control and $100 to ship by sea. It's a little cheaper if you don't want dimming and wifi ability by why not at this price? $2500 for 3200 watts
I'm trying to get more info on the leds.
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Wi-Fi wouldn't be something personally I would care about. I'd just need a dimming knob is all. Is that what you mean by "local"?

And you said that $625 was for the 10 bar, right? Any info on their 8 bar?
I see the site you linked is for the 8 bar.
So I'm guessing $450+100? $550.
 
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dalack

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The 8 bar 640 watt is $410. Probably the same shipping amount.
8 bar without dimming is $375

The 10 bar with standard dimming and no bluetooth control is $500.
Its Bluetooth, Not wifi
 
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dalack

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So I noticed fluence sells their 330 watt light and advertises it for a 4x4 area. They say its meant to be 6 inches from the top of the canopy and will produce PPF: 810 µmol/s and Efficacy: 2.5 µmol/J
https://fluence.science/store/spydr-series/spydrx/

Would I better off getting 4 nalite 400 watt 5 strip lights and placing them 6 inches off the canopy. i'm not sure how close i'll be able to place the 800 watt light without burning the plant.

Here's the info nalite sent me on coverage for each light.

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Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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dalack said:
So I noticed fluence sells their 330 watt light and advertises it for a 4x4 area. They say its meant to be 6 inches from the top of the canopy and will produce PPF: 810 µmol/s and Efficacy: 2.5 µmol/J
https://fluence.science/store/spydr-series/spydrx/

Would I better off getting 4 nalite 400 watt 5 strip lights and placing them 6 inches off the canopy. i'm not sure how close i'll be able to place the 800 watt light without burning the plant.

Here's the info nalite sent me on coverage for each light.

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Dimmed down, you'll be able to put it as close as as you want.
 
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