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[Sir420]

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[rob333]

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leds are a fad and in my opinion are fucken stupid and a hazzard lol i was once gunna refit my room with leds but 5 grand later i invested that back into solar and hps /cmh and i tell u what i pay zero for electrical and still pull 10x the amount then any led grower.not to mention im running 4-6 lights were if i was to refit i could not fit the leds they wanted me to have in me grow room advanced platium wanted something like 20-25 leds lol were bestva came in around 30 led lights 30 fucken lights

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

there are some great leds out there, you have to fit the appliance to your application....it seems to me you were dealing with people that didn't know what the fuck they were talking about, and were trying to sell you a load of old shit...
how about having the same discussion with HLG or TImber? Bestva is not even as reputable as viperspectra or mars.....and they're both crap...

 

[DangerDavez]

leds are a fad and in my opinion are fucken stupid and a hazzard lol i was once gunna refit my room with leds but 5 grand later i invested that back into solar and hps /cmh and i tell u what i pay zero for electrical and still pull 10x the amount then any led grower.not to mention im running 4-6 lights were if i was to refit i could not fit the leds they wanted me to have in me grow room advanced platium wanted something like 20-25 leds lol were bestva came in around 30 led lights 30 fucken lights

Betsvas are pretty much the worst LEDs out there. They aren't even as efficient as a cheap 600w HPS. The lumiled LEDs they use in those arrays is ancient tech.

New cobs and SMDs are almost twice as efficient as even the most efficient DE Gavita with a better spectrum and no hotspots. LED is going nowhere until a new technology can surpass it and it ain't HPS or CMH

 

[DangerDavez]

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I just had a quick glance at your other thread. It got derailed pretty quick but I did get a pretty good idea of what you're planning.

These systems have pros and cons. They've been around for a while and I see why they can be attractive. That being said, I see them more as situationally better rather than strictly better.

These systems are good for the same reason that any other SOG is good. They work well when height is an issue and because you can grow perpetually and pretty much flip to flower immediately ( though I give em time to adapt usually).

The downside is that they aren't very practical for stretchier plants, they are cumbersome to work around and of course you need way more clones.

 

[rob333]

Betsvas are pretty much the worst LEDs out there. They aren't even as efficient as a cheap 600w HPS. The lumiled LEDs they use in those arrays is ancient tech.

New cobs and SMDs are almost twice as efficient as even the most efficient DE Gavita with a better spectrum and no hotspots. LED is going nowhere until a new technology can surpass it and it ain't HPS or CMH

cali light works high end leds were not much better and if i was to run diy cobs i would still not have enough room to fit them and being exposed no way i can run co2 fuck i blow half my house up lol

 

[rob333]

cali light works high end leds were not much better and if i was to run diy cobs i would still not have enough room to fit them and being exposed no way i can run co2 fuck i blow half my house up lol

and im not into exposed wires and drivers and at the end of the day i aint making a huge saving off my bill my mate runs a few leds and he is saving like 30 bucks big woop if it was 200-300 yea maybe but led aint saving u that much lol

 

[rob333]

Explain to me why you couldn't run co2? What scares you about having exposed wires? Yo don't plan on slapping your dick on them do you? lol

you run co2 with exposed wires and let me no what happens

 

[rob333]

you run co2 with exposed wires and let me no what happens

after 3 -4 runs them lights are gunna be useless as fuck

 

[DangerDavez]

cali light works high end leds were not much better and if i was to run diy cobs i would still not have enough room to fit them and being exposed no way i can run co2 fuck i blow half my house up lol

Cali light works is the same crap they have in betsvas.

As for CO2 and exposed wires, I don't see what you're getting at. If your wires are arcing, you have bigger issues than CO2. If wiring plus CO2 were an issue you'd need to seal every single device so it's air tight. That includes HPS.

If you aren't comfortable with wiring then look at HLG Rapid, Cutter. Hell just go for HPS or CMH. Just don't waste money on blurples. I would do some research before posting stuff like this

 

[DangerDavez]

You realize CO2 is present in all air regardless if you are adding extra right? Do you know what CO2 is? I've been running CO2 with exposed wires, I'm not too sure what you think happens..

Boom.

 

[MrX2017]

......Lmao.... Boom???

I believe your phobia of your home blowing up into a million tooth picks, is propane, from CO2 generators leaking. Not CO2 lol

And I’m no expert but I’m pretty sure only commercial ventures are running propane burners... with any chance of the LP or Natural Gas leaking and going boom...


Correct me if I’m wrong
Small outfits like 99% of our members here use CO2 tanks with regulators to enrich the environment, not burners.

Not to mention exposed wiring on LEDs is low voltage at the solder pads. No way to arc unless you short it out with a tool or something. Even then no boom.
Just boom to your wallet buying a new led lol

 

[zep_lover]

i run diy cxb 3590 lights i built.2000 watts total. i use an on demand propane water heater hooked to a co2 controller and no boom.this is the second grow set up like this i have done,the first had natural gas on demand water heater was only difference and still no boom.my lights have not had a problem and some are around 4 years old.

 

[zep_lover]

why would anyone want to run tanks of co2?weekly trips to store and alot more money.1 15 pound propane tank from lowes last just about thirty days running 12 plants with 2000 total watts of light

 

[Renfro]

Well tanks work for some people but I wouldn't wanna make even one trip to get co2 and have to pay for it too. My Co2 generators use less than 50 bucks a month for my whole basement of about 1300 sqft.

 

[Renfro]

I've never used one.. Do they add much humidity or heat?

Yes they add a little humidity and a nice chunk of heat, they are best suited for larger grows. If your room is sealed well then it won't have to run much and thus won't add a ton of heat, just little spikes that you should size your AC to account for. If the room leaks a lot then it will run more adding more heat.

 

[zep_lover]

mine runs for maybe 15 to 20 seconds at a time.i use a on demand water heater hooked to a co2 controller.

 

[Renfro]

mine runs for maybe 15 to 20 seconds at a time.i use a on demand water heater hooked to a co2 controller.

Do you run a pump and circulate the water to a radiator outside the room with a fan to get rid of the heat? I have seen people setup that way and it's pretty slick, run a generator and get rid of most of the heat. Do you have a carbon monoxide alarm just in case?

 

[zep_lover]

i do r

Do you run a pump and circulate the water to a radiator outside the room with a fan to get rid of the heat? I have seen people setup that way and it's pretty slick, run a generator and get rid of most of the heat. Do you have a carbon monoxide alarm just in case?

i do run a pump.it is outside the room.it is in a twenty gallon storage bin filled 3/4 full of water.the water doesnt get hot enough to warrant a radiator.the only time it is a problem is when the 15 pound propane tank runs out.i have to unplug the pump and let the water cool off because it usually happens when i am away from the grow for hours or days.the pump heats the water if it runs non stop.right now i just change out the tank at thirty days and it is almost empty so only a little waste.15 to 20 dollars for thirty days is not bad
i do not run a carbon monoxide detector.my grow is in a pole barn and the room is sealed

 

[Kenpark]

compared to before what differences did you find with the addition of co2 on the final yield?
thanks ...