MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

roxistar

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Well, I never touch the roots, I always let them go and don't think there's a great advantage to breaking them up.

I think by touching them, you might infect part of the root and kill it, it wouldn't have that much damage on the plant, as long as there's a considerable root mass and available water, you'd have a tough time killing it. but breaking roots can't be good, I've never done it on a youngster before.

Funny though, because whenever I plant the seasonals outside (not weed) I break up their root balls, so maybe, idk :mrgreen:

I agree, I wouldn't have broken up those roots, they aren't bound bad at all. Breaking up the roots isn't necessary unless they are EXTREMELY root bound! I've done it with house plants before but never with marijuana. It never had a bad affect on any of the house plants but I wouldn't suggest doing it for the reasons you mentioned unless the plants were root bound, and even then I wouldn't break them I would just make a couple cuts across them. When I say extreme, I mean cases like these:
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Of course all my previous grows have been hydro with the exception of one so I haven't really run into the problem with marijuana plants before.

BTW excellent journal, I'm subscribed. Can't wait to see the final product, especially since you are an experienced grower!!
 

sb101

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BTW excellent journal, I'm subscribed. Can't wait to see the final product, especially since you are an experienced grower!!
agreed.


haha yea i guess my roots weren't THAT bound. damn that first pic is ridiculous. i'll just chalk it up to a noob mistake and won't do it again, thanks for the response guys and sorry for the hijack! :eyesmoke:
 

raiderman

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out of the first 11 pIants of the sensi g13 HP ,8femaIe - 3 maIe..shocked aImost to get that many fem..you are rite about sensi, they are exce. gen. if you can overIook the downside.i did write sensi a Ietter a coup. weeks ago about the bad germ. rate. and toId me that they do not ship to the U.S. and they are soId as souveneirs . i kind of thought the second part was chicken shit .
.. wat is your theory on branching? do you get more with one coIa or do you find it more prof. to branch. thanx....aIso i aIways bust up my rootbaII jus from the bottom, breaking it outward to fiII the bucket it goes in.never prob.
 

MrHowardMarks

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If plant # is an issue, ie prop 215, definately branch out and cover more area. But for quickness, I flower small and put more plants in the area. I noticed by branching I get the same yield per plant as growing a big main cola. Difference is more smaller buds vs one large bud and few small buds.

More plants, faster perpetual cycle if you don't branch them.

I do supercrop my plants to reduce stretch.

As far as the souvenier thing, they don't directly ship to the u.s. But the middle men do, the seeds probably sit on the shelf for a couple years, thats why there's a low germ rate.

I had 5 or 10 Super Skunks germ.
 

raiderman

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hope you get a high femaIe rate to hep your project. i am i guess more of a seed person , shooting dice with seeds for femaIe ratio is the downfaII.gonna wach your journaI and try to keep Iearning:joint:. youve been qite hepfuI, and wiII keep tuning in.
 

MrHowardMarks

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;) Thanks, I should be taking clones pretty soon, they're looking great, I'm going to top the first five, and will have 18 or so branches per plant to grow out for clones... The first clones (tops) will be sent directly to flowering from rooting to establish sex, so, I should be flowering in two weeks or less. :mrgreen:
:bigjoint: :leaf: bongsmilie
 

Gutterman

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Earlier, you mentioned Hermaphrodites. I grew several plants and one 3/4 way thru the grow grew a single pollen sac! I missed it somehow, and of course it pollinated several branches on my Herself. (she was looking excellent up to this point) also she pollinated 5 other diff strains all bagseed strains , but strains never-the-less. my question is, will the clones I took from her have the same percentage to having pollen sacs form or do you think ph, lighting leak etc.etc. could just have played a part in the sac formulation and the clones might have a chance to being pure sensimillia. I wonder if the seeds on the other plants will have the chance also (those only have like one seed a piece where pollen apparenltly made it to them also) It was only one pollen sac. I have checked them over and over after having found the one just to be certain the other strains didnt have the Hermie traits showing. which they did not..
Any comments welcome because I hate to waist time with hermaphrodite strain that will keep repeating it's traits onto it's clones. the other 5 strains seem strong so I would kill this off just as opposed to piddling around with pollen sacs and losing a whole Garden.
Thanks.
 

MrHowardMarks

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Earlier, you mentioned Hermaphrodites. I grew several plants and one 3/4 way thru the grow grew a single pollen sac! I missed it somehow, and of course it pollinated several branches on my Herself. (she was looking excellent up to this point) also she pollinated 5 other diff strains all bagseed strains , but strains never-the-less. my question is, will the clones I took from her have the same percentage to having pollen sacs form or do you think ph, lighting leak etc.etc. could just have played a part in the sac formulation and the clones might have a chance to being pure sensimillia. I wonder if the seeds on the other plants will have the chance also (those only have like one seed a piece where pollen apparenltly made it to them also) It was only one pollen sac. I have checked them over and over after having found the one just to be certain the other strains didnt have the Hermie traits showing. which they did not..
Any comments welcome because I hate to waist time with hermaphrodite strain that will keep repeating it's traits onto it's clones. the other 5 strains seem strong so I would kill this off just as opposed to piddling around with pollen sacs and losing a whole Garden.
Thanks.


It sounds to me like the strain isn"t very resiliant to stress, or it just hermies on it's own. Every offspring (clone, or seed) will have the same probability to herm, due to stress or whatever. The seeds from the herm plan will have greater odds to herm, over those plants pollinated by the herm plant.

My Silver Mango is the offspring of Silver Pearl that hermed from a light leak, and pollinated a Somango, I'm going to have to pay close attention to it during flower, looking for pollen sacks, I don't plan on growing that much of it for this reason. If it doesn't show any herm traits, then I'll be more apt to grow it in the future, for now, it's just an experiment.

:leaf:
 

sb101

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this is exactly what i was looking for. my chocolate thai went hermie late in flower, first grow and i didn't catch it, so i'm gonna get like 100 seeds of crappy probably hermie chocolate thai. the diesel i am growing also got hit a little bit, and i'm gonna get 10-20 seeds of the hybrid. does that mean that the seeds i'm getting from the diesel are a chocolote thai/diesel hybrid? and they stronger genes of the diesel i'm sure will help, but will they also be more prone to turn hermie? it's too bad cause the buds on my chocolate thai were looking great, but it doesn't look like i'll be growing that strain anymore
 

MrHowardMarks

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Yeah, those 10-20 seeds have a hermie parent, and a stable parent, so they are less likely to carry the easily stessed trait vs the self pollination seeds, they are twice as likely.

It's like herm x herm, and female x herm. Although there isn't much research on the topic that has been scientifically proven, that's the common view of marijuana growers.
 

MrHowardMarks

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wow, wat a garden,missed those pics, taIkin about a garden of Eden. hope mine is a fraction of that fuII.

Hahaha you must be talking about my "previous experience" album. I found some older pics, they're from sept 07 I think :mrgreen:

I have a bunch of old pics on discs somewhere, If I find them I'll upload them, I think I have pics from my first outdoor grow, long, long ago :leaf:

I'm going to snap pics of all my glass tomorrow and create an album. I'm even going to take pics of my three broken RooRs :?
 

MrHowardMarks

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I figured it would be nice to have pictures of my glass before it's broken:? I'll make a collage of my broken glass to.

I have some sweet marbles, Tony Rice, Fritz Kline, the like. I've been wanting to purchase a Snodgrass marble, the skull and tophat :mrgreen:
 

raiderman

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thats is cooI. just recentIy purchased the Mad Scientist 2 with the pre cooIer,w/percuIater.tripIe fiItration,, unbeIievabIe.
 
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