Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

[3rd Monkey]

Lost on the ppm meter . I got a cheapy off of amazon . Not ideal I know .

That's what I use. Just buy a new one every year.

Does it say TDS in it or in the manual?

 

[schmebulock]

Lost on the ppm meter . I got a cheapy off of amazon . Not ideal I know .

just make sure you don't use the ppm meter as a mixing stick - the cheaper ones aren't water tight and the internal guts will die from water.

 

[Or_Gro]

I don't think anything beats sun grown bud, but HIDs do a good job lol.

I totally disagree, but i live in oregon, where rain starts way before bud can fully ripen outside of a greenhouse...

 

[iceman2494]

I gotta check when I get home . Not sure if it says tds .

 

[Or_Gro]

That's why a lot of growers switch to EC. No scale to mess with, no conversions.

Most meters read it as ec then convert to ppm....and then neglect to mention differences in scale...

 

[3rd Monkey]

I totally disagree, but i live in oregon, where rain starts way before bud can fully ripen outside of a greenhouse...

I'm on the other coast. I don't like greenhouse growing honestly, but I don't run CO2. Heard something about UB/UV being blocked in a greenhouse, any truth to that?

My outdoor runs, even in buckets, always smoke my indoor runs... But you have to have the weather to make it ALL the way, I agree.

 

[Or_Gro]

I'm on the other coast. I don't like greenhouse growing honestly, but I don't run CO2. Heard something about UB/UV being blocked in a greenhouse, any truth to that?

My outdoor runs, even in buckets, always smoke my indoor runs... But you have to have the weather to make it ALL the way, I agree.

Some of the glazings and coatings they use on greenhouses can block uv...so depends...

 

[3rd Monkey]

Most meters read it as ec then convert to ppm....and then neglect to mention differences in scale...

Didn't know that.

Dome of the glazings and coatings they use on greenhouses can block uv...so depends...

Makes sense.

 

[schmebulock]

yeah certain glass also blocks UV - used in greenhouses

 

[ClydeWalters]

Anyone know why my GSC is turning lightish yellow bear her bud sites?

RH is 60
Temp 79F
PH 6.1
PPM 700

Res is full of MegaCrop and hydrogaurd and Canna Pk with a bunch of mammoth P and Myco Chum (to feed the mycorrhizae sample I threw in her res) it will actually feed the mammoth P as well so it’s mutually beneficial across the board for me to add food for my microbes

They seem to be loving it! She grows so vigorously and she is flowering hard now but there is just this lack of green color centralized towards the center of the bud sites :/

 

[iceman2494]

Anyone know why my GSC is turning lightish yellow bear her bud sites?

RH is 60
Temp 79F
PH 6.1
PPM 700

Res is full of MegaCrop and hydrogaurd and Canna Pk with a bunch of mammoth P and Myco Chum (to feed the mycorrhizae sample I threw in her res) it will actually feed the mammoth P as well so it’s mutually beneficial across the board for me to add food for my microbes

They seem to be loving it! She grows so vigorously and she is flowering hard now but there is just this lack of green color centralized towards the center of the bud sites :/
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Didn’t you just post this?

 

[ClydeWalters]

Thanks man!

These pics were about the trichs not buds, so the buds are not really shown in a way that makes them comparable or representative.

There are differences in bud size and quantity, not really shape or hardness. (I just got a durometer, hoping to start quantifying bud hardness, which is amazing).

Imo, you can’t go wrong with either type light. But, I think that the 96s will kick the shit out of the 288s in veg, tho i haven’t done a side-by-side in veg yet....

I know that my 96 is performed incredibly during veg with my auto flowers

I think the 96 has better penetration then the 288 if I had to guess

 

[ClydeWalters]

Didn’t you just post this?

Yeah I didn’t mean to my phone refreshed and at the same time I accidentally hit post somehow sorry bout that guys

 

[ClydeWalters]

Anyone have any feedback on my issue?

 

[Or_Gro]

I know that my 96 is performed incredibly during veg with my auto flowers

I think the 96 has better penetration then the 288 if I had to guess

Big blue spike for limiting internode length, big,big red 620 & 660nm for big photosynthesis

 

[Steakbomb]

The sweetspot for water temp is 68-72....below this, it holds more oxygen (good thing), but slows down metabolism...above this, oxygen availability drops and conditions for microbeasties improve...

Chillers work great, but are best for rwdc...i am fortunate that my floor is cold, so i haven’t even opened the box mine came in 3 years ago... @Steakbomb uses one, hopefully he’ll respond.

We chatted on this over on the city a bit.

I love the chiller for the summer months - but I will say it is CRITICAL that you put it outside your grow space. Whatever heat it pulls out of your reservoir it will dump into the air. If that air is in your tent you are gonna have a warm tent!

For my starter rig (6gal) I use a chill solutions cxsc-1 - still about $200 but that's half the price of a big chiller.

I have a 1/10hp chiller from AquaEuro on my cab rig. I set it to 65° and it keeps things between 64-66.

 

[Or_Gro]

Anyone have any feedback on my issue?

See my post?

 

[Steakbomb]

We chatted on this over on the city a bit.

I love the chiller for the summer months - but I will say it is CRITICAL that you put it outside your grow space. Whatever heat it pulls out of your reservoir it will dump into the air. If that air is in your tent you are gonna have a warm tent!

For my starter rig (6gal) I use a chill solutions cxsc-1 - still about $200 but that's half the price of a big chiller.

I have a 1/10hp chiller from AquaEuro on my cab rig. I set it to 65° and it keeps things between 64-66.

You could also look into chiller probes if you wanted to go the electronic route - but those (due to the design) would HAVE to dump heat to the tent.

Frozen water bottles plus insulating the buckets should do the trick pretty well for a straight dwc rig.

 

[Or_Gro]

My seedling temp and humidity control system:



Incandescent bulb for raising leaf surface temps to 70-80f...


I use ir temp gun to measure leaf surface temp...

 

[Moabfighter]

Except in summer when the temps cause loose buds lol. The heat was my main reason for moving to QBs. The HPS still has a place in my heart though.

Me too. I miss my HPS. Don’t miss the 500 a month power bill though.