Herb & Suds
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Biden vs Sanders
I bet they were really something before electricity
I bet they were really something before electricity
Biden vs Trump
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hotrodharley
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Religious views matter when it comes to drug policy in this country. That’s why it was significant when Rev. Franklin Graham, who inherited his father’s evangelical network about 15 years ago, came out strongly against marijuana legalization three weeks ago.
The timing of his announcement is no surprise.
In the last two years, four states have voted to tax and regulate marijuana, thereby eliminating sanctions for low-level possession and use. Voters in five more states (Arizona, California, Maine, Massachusetts, and Nevada) will consider similar ballot initiatives on election day November 8. Rev. Graham intends to campaign across the nation in the next two months to urge people of faith to vote “No.”
Evangelical Christians comprise about 25% of the U.S. population. This religious call to arms reminds us once again of something very important about our country.”
We note the name of Franklin Graham. The GOP will need every vote they can steal or muster. They’re not going to gamble on cannabis. The decriminalization push is part of the resistance to outright “legalization”.
Religious views matter when it comes to drug policy in this country. That’s why it was significant when Rev. Franklin Graham, who inherited his father’s evangelical network about 15 years ago, came out strongly against marijuana legalization three weeks ago.
The timing of his announcement is no surprise.
In the last two years, four states have voted to tax and regulate marijuana, thereby eliminating sanctions for low-level possession and use. Voters in five more states (Arizona, California, Maine, Massachusetts, and Nevada) will consider similar ballot initiatives on election day November 8. Rev. Graham intends to campaign across the nation in the next two months to urge people of faith to vote “No.”
Evangelical Christians comprise about 25% of the U.S. population. This religious call to arms reminds us once again of something very important about our country.”
We note the name of Franklin Graham. The GOP will need every vote they can steal or muster. They’re not going to gamble on cannabis. The decriminalization push is part of the resistance to outright “legalization”.
TacoMac
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Oregon (decriminalized in 1973), Alaska (decriminalized 1975), Washington State (Seattle started with decriminalization in 2003), California (Oakland started the ball rolling with decriminalization in 2004), Colorado (Denver decriminalized in 2005)...
So, in other words, all of them. Every single state where marijuana is legal now started with decriminalization.
hotrodharley
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Oakland. Denver. Then note the time lapse between the states decriminalizing and then legalizing. Say “No” to this obviously unnecessary and stupid step.
Jimdamick
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Never happen.
Most of their base (Evangelicals) never smoked a joint in their fucked up lives, and the GOP and Trump rely on them.
It's the Devils weed.
TacoMac
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The only reason they're legal today is because of that first step. That first step starts a movement within the state, and gradually that results in legalization. That's how things work in government. That's how they've always worked.
But do continue to set legalization back another 50 years by screaming "ALL OR NOTHING" at the top of your lungs like some sort of desperate drug addict. That always has a lot of merit.
That was sarcastic. Actually, opponents of legalization use arguments like yours to shoot down legalization. They point right at people like you and say, "See how desperate they are for drugs? See how impatient and attacking they are? They're on a drug fueled rant to get more drugs!"
And it works. A lot.
Sir Napsalot
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By a republican no less
Herb & Suds
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NoNever happen.
Most of their base (Evangelicals) never smoked a joint in their fucked up lives, and the GOP and Trump rely on them.
It's the Devils weed.
but most have a quart jar of clear medicinal elixir in the cupboard
hotrodharley
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Decriminalize. Where do you buy weed then? Do you actually think about what you talk about? All that does is give some relief for possession of minor amounts. It does nothing else to address the “problem”. Cannabis is easy revenue for cash strapped governments. Believe that.
hotrodharley
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“Some opponents of legalization favor decriminalization as a step to peeling back America’s harsh drug and criminal justice policies. They see “tough on crime” policies as too punitive and costly, but they don’t want to resort to full legalization, which they fear would make pot too accessible in the US and allow big corporations to irresponsibly sell and market the drug.”
It’s a bone tossed to barking dogs to quiet them.
It’s a bone tossed to barking dogs to quiet them.
hotrodharley
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Nebraska. Decriminalized.
“Possession
1 oz or less (first offense) Infraction N/A $ 300
1 oz or less (second offense) Misdemeanor 5 days $ 500
1 oz or less (third offense) Misdemeanor 7 days $ 500
More than 1 oz - l lb Misdemeanor 3 months $ 500
More than l lb Felony 5 years $ 10,000
Sale/Manufacture
Any amount Felony 1* - 20 years $ 25,000”
Growing ANY AMOUNT is a felony. ANY AMOUNT! Say “No” to this moneymaker.
Love that $300 fine for a joint or a film can full. Hell yes that’s progress.
“Possession
1 oz or less (first offense) Infraction N/A $ 300
1 oz or less (second offense) Misdemeanor 5 days $ 500
1 oz or less (third offense) Misdemeanor 7 days $ 500
More than 1 oz - l lb Misdemeanor 3 months $ 500
More than l lb Felony 5 years $ 10,000
Sale/Manufacture
Any amount Felony 1* - 20 years $ 25,000”
Growing ANY AMOUNT is a felony. ANY AMOUNT! Say “No” to this moneymaker.
Love that $300 fine for a joint or a film can full. Hell yes that’s progress.
NirvanaMesa
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CA went legal after years of decriminalization.
hotrodharley
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Years of collecting money from pot smokers. To what end? How many times does an experiment have to be run with the same results before people believe the results? Again decriminalization still results in you paying the state for smoking a plant. That is if you have just a small amount.
TacoMac
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OK. Just keep screaming for impossible things that will never happen. That's really worked out well for you so far, I'm sure.
NirvanaMesa
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You asked to name one place that went legal after decriminalization so I did.
hotrodharley
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You did indeed.
hotrodharley
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Keep settling for less. See when you get more. Let me know how it goes. Note in these states that selling ANY amount is a felony. Growing ANY AMOUNT is a felony. Possession? $300 fine for under an ounce for the first time. Subsequent offenses? Escalating fees and mandatory jail. You bet getting that is a victory. Puhleeze.
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TacoMac
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I'm getting more. I'm getting exactly what I expect to get: well thought out, gradual change for the better.
But do keep crying. Seems to work for you.
Jimdamick
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More like dick lube so they can fuck each in a closet for men, and dildoes for the women that dream about getting fucked by their Mexican landscaper.
You know I'm right.
Jimdamick
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Any state that is legal now actually is in violation of Federal law, they just haven't enforced it.
I live in CT, and my penalty for growing and selling is 5-10 years mandatory and if Federal laws kick in, then its 20 years, plus forfeiture of property, like my house.
Even in legal states if your black market, your fucked..
Vote Dem, and end this shit once and for all.