Biden flips on the Hyde Amendment

Padawanbater2

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Right wing, centrist, conservative policies that benefit donors over voters

You could keep pretending to be different so long as you supported social issues

While you still held the exact same economic beliefs


People bought it for a long time. Not anymore, though..
 

Fogdog

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Bill Clinton's policies and administration fit the description of neoliberal according to the definition of neoliberal

True
LOL

Fail.
Right wing, centrist, conservative policies that benefit donors over voters

You could keep pretending to be different so long as you supported social issues

While you still held the exact same economic beliefs


People bought it for a long time. Not anymore, though..
LOL

Fail
 

tangerinegreen555

Well-Known Member
Right wing, centrist, conservative policies that benefit donors over voters

You could keep pretending to be different so long as you supported social issues

While you still held the exact same economic beliefs


People bought it for a long time. Not anymore, though..
Jesusfuckingchrist, how many presidents did you like in the last 50 years?

None?

So you'll never be satisfied.

You should be sentenced to 3 years in Alabama, maybe paroled early to South Carolina or Mississippi.

See how many people you can convert down there.
 

Padawanbater2

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Jesusfuckingchrist, how many presidents did you like in the last 50 years?

None?

So you'll never be satisfied.

You should be sentenced to 3 years in Alabama, maybe paroled early to South Carolina or Mississippi.

See how many people you can convert down there.
You don't like the American political system that enslaves poor people to enrich rich people, maybe we should send you to the shittiest place in America on account of your defiance..
 

schuylaar

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I have asked all three of these idiots (@ttystikk , @schuylaar) to please point out the Biden supporters here and they have not done so. So this doesn't really sound like it is so much a continued campaign to turn people away from Biden in the primaries as it is an attack on the intention, voiced by many of us, to vote for the Democratic candidate regardless of who they are.

I think I cannot fathom the ignorance of any idiot that believes that Trump would represent their interests better than Biden would.

Methinks that these three are among the most useful idiots ever.
Biden will lose to Trump.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Biden will lose to Trump.
Who here supports Biden? Why won't any of you three stooges answer that? I literally have not seen one person here say "I hope Biden wins the nomination."

Why does democracy scare you so much? It is pretty clear that more Democrats support Biden than Bernie. It is also pretty clear that Bernie's numbers are dropping fast. Will you commit to keeping your sig until the general election next year?

First the three of you took comfort in Bernie being the front-runner (due to nobody else having entered the race yet) and now you have floated the claim that Bernie's sinking is due to a blackout by the news media despite the fact that you have presented no evidence and there is amply evidence to the contrary.

What about you - will you commit to voting for the Democratic candidate in the general election in November? Or are you of Tty's opinion that second only to Bernie, Trump represents his interests.
 

Unclebaldrick

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You don't like the American political system that enslaves poor people to enrich rich people, maybe we should send you to the shittiest place in America on account of your defiance..
So, if I get you right, you don't like people who force others to do hazardous and unpleasant work and then take most of their money, and you find it especially odious if those people use force or abuse to enslave them.

Why don't you support @ttystikk's interests?
 

medviper

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Bill Clinton's policies and administration fit the description of neoliberal according to the definition of neoliberal

True
you aren't going to find too many on this forum including myself that voted for him laud all of his accomplishments.
I've always thought that he leaned too center right and probably set the stage for the impending housing crunch and vulture lending that many couldn't afford because of the high interest attached to loans they really didn't qualify for in the first place.
that along with the w bush wars contributed to what threw the nation through the recession.

BLAMEWORTHY
Bill Clinton


President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment.
 

tangerinegreen555

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maybe we should send you to the shittiest place in America on account of your defiance..
I'd send you to Alabama in the hopes that you might learn something.

I don't think you get how divided this country is, nor do you have the slightest fucking idea how to try to address it.

If you don't like the average pragmatic Democrat, go mingle and talk with the average Trump base supporter and see how long it takes you to start banging your head off the wall.

Good luck.
 

Fogdog

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you aren't going to find too many on this forum including myself that voted for him laud all of his accomplishments.
I've always thought that he leaned too center right and probably set the stage for the impending housing crunch and vulture lending that many couldn't afford because of the high interest attached to loans they really didn't qualify for in the first place.
that along with the w bush wars contributed to what threw the nation through the recession.

BLAMEWORTHY
Bill Clinton


President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment.
Presidents don't govern in a vacuum. The US was much more conservative during his tenure and Clinton's policies reflected that. One of his most important accomplishments was beating back Newt Gingrich's wave of Republicans. In all, he left this country in better financial shape than it has been since. Also, since he left office, wages and working conditions steadily eroded. If you compare Bill's presidency to Either of the Bush's and Trump's, he looks pretty good.

I'm not going to criticize him when we have what Shrub did to this country for comparison.
 

Padawanbater2

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I don't think you get how divided this country is, nor do you have the slightest fucking idea how to try to address it.

If you don't like the average pragmatic Democrat, go mingle and talk with the average Trump base supporter and see how long it takes you to start banging your head off the wall.

Good luck.
The "average pragmatic Democrat" cups Republican balls when they blow them

I'm not interested in going along to get along with Republicans you say you despise

I'm interested in transforming a center right corporate controlled country that placates to business interests into one that supports workers rights and average Americans

Nobody wants a corporate centrist like John Delaney or Joe Biden. Everyone wants a more progressive candidate like Sanders or Warren. Check the polls on the issues.
 

UncleBuck

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Nobody wants a corporate centrist like John Delaney or Joe Biden. Everyone wants a more progressive candidate like Sanders or Warren. Check the polls on the issues.
I checked the polls and Biden is leading easily and Bernie is on his way to fourth or fifth place
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Bernie is losing in every way imaginable.

Warren is kicking ass though.
Biden has dropped 10 points in six weeks

Sanders remains consistent between 15-20%, Warren is climbing in the polls, who I also support

If it came down to Warren v Sanders, I'd be happy with either one because they're both actual progressives
 

Fogdog

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Biden has dropped 10 points in six weeks

Sanders remains consistent between 15-20%, Warren is climbing in the polls, who I also support

If it came down to Warren v Sanders, I'd be happy with either one because they're both actual progressives
I don't need any polls to tell me that Warren is kicking the shit out of Sanders. But OK, if you insist.

Bernie is dropping on that same chart you posted. Warren is showing a sharp increase.

Biden dropped from his all time high but is still way ahead of Bernie. I don't even care about Biden anyway. It's you who is so desperate to claim Bernie is winning when by that very same chart you posted, he is not.

You suck at this.
 
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