Damnnn Daniel, Back at it again... this time with legal growing ;)

[OldMedUser]

Hopefully she goes good then. So do you think hold off on the black strap for awhile or just not use it at all? I usually don't end up using it til half way through flower anyway but if it's going to have an adverse reaction with the mykos, I won't even bother.

I don't think mine was an adverse reaction but more like an overdose issue. I used a heaping Tbsp of blackstrap unsulfured organic molasses in 2L of water along with 2 Tbsp of the liquid seaweed fertilizer. Might have been a bit too much of the other fertilizers at the start too but I didn't think so as I mixed it up. Was aiming for 8L of mix so used 6L of promix hp and equal amounts of the 2 manures and EWC to fill another 2L can. Didn't figure in the space the rootballs would take up and ended up with 2L of the blend left over.

I'm planning to try watering a small plant with the colloidal silver I make when I have two near identical clones I can experiment with. May kill the myco or the plant tho but will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[budsmoker247]

I don't think mine was an adverse reaction but more like an overdose issue. I used a heaping Tbsp of blackstrap unsulfured organic molasses in 2L of water along with 2 Tbsp of the liquid seaweed fertilizer. Might have been a bit too much of the other fertilizers at the start too but I didn't think so as I mixed it up. Was aiming for 8L of mix so used 6L of promix hp and equal amounts of the 2 manures and EWC to fill another 2L can. Didn't figure in the space the rootballs would take up and ended up with 2L of the blend left over.

I'm planning to try watering a small plant with the colloidal silver I make when I have two near identical clones I can experiment with. May kill the myco or the plant tho but will be interesting to see what happens.

ahh ok, I got ya. thx for the info! as I said, I don't usually use them until mid flowering anyway so hopefully it should be fine if I do.

yea, that would be an interesting experiment. I know colloidal is used in feminizing seeds so I wonder if it would have the same effects if watered in small doses. Let us know the results!

 

[budsmoker247]

Now on week 4 of veg as of tomorrow the 12th. started lst last week, the bigger ones are starting to bush out a little more. my other two seemed to have slowed growth for some reason or another but those were also transplanted today.

 

[budsmoker247]

Ok, so first things first.. 37 days into veg! Things are still going smoothly but im starting to notice little issues. Few gnats here and there, not a big deal. Currently being dealt with, with traps. Not a full blown infestation but been noticing them for a bit here and there. Been trying to dry out as much as i can before stressing with underwattering but, nothing seems to work to kill them off. hence the reason for the traps (as of being put in tonight). Now,.. with that; im also noticing some spots here and there. Usually progressing from the oldest fans leaves on. At first i thought calmag. But, it's been within range for feedings. Then i thought maybe boron!? So i wanted to get some EXPERT, not SO much out of the loop experience! Since its been SOME time since my last grow...

Info;

Promix HP
General organics (Go box nutes)
Ph water between 6.0 - 6.5 (General Organics PH Test solution)
1 tbsp per gallon of powdered dolomite lime added to soil mix ( each plant in 3 gallon? I believe pots) our dollar store doesn't list gallons on the pots, just dimensions.
2 tbsp of Mykos added to each transplatation hole before they were up potted.

I know alot of people are going to say ppm, ec, etc.... My current high tech meter shit the bed after not being maintained for so long which is why im dealing with the ph dropper test kit.

Also, i should note that ONE of my plants ( The very last pic) Recieved an uncalled for super cropping) I had did my lst training for the day then watered later in the evening. I guess the soil had shifted and snapped the top off that one plant, which i imediately bandaged. But, its the same results across the board for both plants, even with the damage to one.

No noob shit, i been around the block before. Expert opinnions only please!

 

[budsmoker247]

Ok, so first things first.. 37 days into veg! Things are still going smoothly but im starting to notice little issues. Few gnats here and there, not a big deal. Currently being dealt with, with traps. Not a full blown infestation but been noticing them for a bit here and there. Been trying to dry out as much as i can before stressing with underwattering but, nothing seems to work to kill them off. hence the reason for the traps (as of being put in tonight). Now,.. with that; im also noticing some spots here and there. Usually progressing from the oldest fans leaves on. At first i thought calmag. But, it's been withing range for feedings. Then i thought maybe boron!? So i wanted to get some EXPERT, not SO much out of the loop experience! Since its been SOME time since my last grow...

Info;

Promix HP
General organics (Go box nutes)
Ph water between 6.0 - 6.5 (General Organics PH Test solution)
1 tbsp per gallon of powdered dolomite lime added to soil mix ( each plant in 3 gallon? I believe pots) our dollar store doesn't list gallons on the pots, just dimensions.
2 tbsp of Mykos added to each transplatation hole before they were up potted.

Yes, i know alot of people are going to say ppm, ec, etc.... My current high tech meter shit the bed after not being maintained for so long which is why im dealing with the ph dropper test kit.

Also, i should note that ONE of my plants ( The very last pic) Recieved an uncalled for super cropping) I had did my lst training for the day then watered later in the evening. I guess the soil had shifted and snapped the top off that one plant, which i imediately bandaged. But, its the same results across the board for both plants, even with the damage to one.

No noob shit, i been around the block before. Expert opinnions only please!

600w mh conversion bulb, Temp between 28 and 30c and a RH of 30-40 depending on the day.

 

[budsmoker247]

I always saturate the pots at the time of transplant.

I only use HP and like the way it dries on top. Helps prevent fungus gnats getting established and we got lots here tho I haven't had an infestation in years.

As a general rule I up-pot once the plants need water in less than 48 hours since the last. I like to rake up the surface so it breathes well. At each transplant I saw the bottom of the rootball off to get rid of any long, stringy roots. I shave down the sides if any there as well. We found a nice serrated bread knife at a garage sale a few years back that works really well for that. Wife is still looking for it.

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In regards to this reply, i did experiment a little and trimmed down the roots. My now ( Once stunted plant) has just as many nodes as the bigger ones. So i thank you for that sir! My only hopes is that i didn't stress her too much.

 

[grapenut2457]

Of course they were legally sourced, otherwise I wouldn't of said it. and if they weren't legal obviously I wouldn't be sticking to our laws and guidelines on growing now huh? you a narc or something?

I seriously doubt that there is any will on the part of law enforcement to crack down on home grows of 4 plants to see if the good citizens of Canada sourced the seeds from a gov't store. Here in NB you cant even purchase seeds. Sold out. The roll out of CannabisNB was a colossal flop.

 

[OldMedUser]

Ok, so first things first.. 37 days into veg! Things are still going smoothly but im starting to notice little issues. Few gnats here and there, not a big deal. Currently being dealt with, with traps. Not a full blown infestation but been noticing them for a bit here and there. Been trying to dry out as much as i can before stressing with underwattering but, nothing seems to work to kill them off. hence the reason for the traps (as of being put in tonight). Now,.. with that; im also noticing some spots here and there. Usually progressing from the oldest fans leaves on. At first i thought calmag. But, it's been within range for feedings. Then i thought maybe boron!? So i wanted to get some EXPERT, not SO much out of the loop experience! Since its been SOME time since my last grow...

Info;

Promix HP
General organics (Go box nutes)
Ph water between 6.0 - 6.5 (General Organics PH Test solution)
1 tbsp per gallon of powdered dolomite lime added to soil mix ( each plant in 3 gallon? I believe pots) our dollar store doesn't list gallons on the pots, just dimensions.
2 tbsp of Mykos added to each transplatation hole before they were up potted.

I know alot of people are going to say ppm, ec, etc.... My current high tech meter shit the bed after not being maintained for so long which is why im dealing with the ph dropper test kit.

Also, i should note that ONE of my plants ( The very last pic) Recieved an uncalled for super cropping) I had did my lst training for the day then watered later in the evening. I guess the soil had shifted and snapped the top off that one plant, which i imediately bandaged. But, its the same results across the board for both plants, even with the damage to one.

No noob shit, i been around the block before. Expert opinnions only please!

Maybe not Expert but definitely Advanced and my opinion is that it's not a deficiency but something mechanical like water spotting causing those brown spots. Possibly a fungal issue but doesn't look a lot like that either. RH?

Much too random and minor for a deficiency or pH issue IMO.

 

[OldMedUser]

I seriously doubt that there is any will on the part of law enforcement to crack down on home grows of 4 plants to see if the good citizens of Canada sourced the seeds from a gov't store. Here in NB you cant even purchase seeds. Sold out. The roll out of CannabisNB was a colossal flop.

It's been a colossal flop everywhere but some like NB are somewhat more colossal than others.

It must be part of the gov't's efforts to keep home growing at a minimum while still giving the populace the impression that things are so much better under Prohibition 2.0. Can only get legal seeds from legal producers so the LPs don't sell any seeds thus less competition.

A buddy of mine who has grown under the radar for years lives in the city of Grande Prairie here in AB and if you want to grow your 4 plants you have to register with the city. Gives them the right to show up at your place to check that your grow passes all city regs regarding power etc. He tells me that they bring the cops with them. If you're not in compliance the cops seize the plants while the city goons remove any 'defective' equipment and levy fines for bylaw infractions. Not to mention a nice big bill for the home inspection.

Like myself he isn't registering for anything. He's a lot more open and exposed than I am and has never even had a knock-and-talk visit from the cops nor have I. I have a 12g/day medical but haven't ever registered with Hellth Canaduh to legally grow. 17 years growing here after moving the grow from town and never a problem.

I think if you did have cops visit your grow they are going to count the plants and not bother about where you got them unless you've done something to piss them off. It's still good advice to keep your yap shut and be very discreet about what you're doing. No smells. No blazing light out the window at night and no bragging to all and sunder.

I believe there is some court case going on now about the lack of legal seeds but not sure. There ought to be if there isn't but people will probably have to be busted for growing from illegal seeds before the issue is decided I'm sure.

 

[grapenut2457]

It's been a colossal flop everywhere but some like NB are somewhat more colossal than others.

It must be part of the gov't's efforts to keep home growing at a minimum while still giving the populace the impression that things are so much better under Prohibition 2.0. Can only get legal seeds from legal producers so the LPs don't sell any seeds thus less competition.

A buddy of mine who has grown under the radar for years lives in the city of Grande Prairie here in AB and if you want to grow your 4 plants you have to register with the city. Gives them the right to show up at your place to check that your grow passes all city regs regarding power etc. He tells me that they bring the cops with them. If you're not in compliance the cops seize the plants while the city goons remove any 'defective' equipment and levy fines for bylaw infractions. Not to mention a nice big bill for the home inspection.

Like myself he isn't registering for anything. He's a lot more open and exposed than I am and has never even had a knock-and-talk visit from the cops nor have I. I have a 12g/day medical but haven't ever registered with Hellth Canaduh to legally grow. 17 years growing here after moving the grow from town and never a problem.

I think if you did have cops visit your grow they are going to count the plants and not bother about where you got them unless you've done something to piss them off. It's still good advice to keep your yap shut and be very discreet about what you're doing. No smells. No blazing light out the window at night and no bragging to all and sunder.

I believe there is some court case going on now about the lack of legal seeds but not sure. There ought to be if there isn't but people will probably have to be busted for growing from illegal seeds before the issue is decided I'm sure.

And don’t go posting your grow on Facebook would be another good tip. I am planning on growing up to 10 high cbd hemp plants next year. I wonder how that will fly....?

 

[budsmoker247]

Maybe not Expert but definitely Advanced and my opinion is that it's not a deficiency but something mechanical like water spotting causing those brown spots. Possibly a fungal issue but doesn't look a lot like that either. RH?

Much too random and minor for a deficiency or pH issue IMO.

My RH for the last little bit since they were all transplanted have been pretty steady between 30 - 40. I never feed directly under the lights and always rinse any leaves off with clean water if I get any solution on them and remove any droplets before putting them directly back under the lights.

My water is just tap that I let sit out for a few days to evaporate all the chlorine and then ph it to 6.0 - 6.5

 

[OldMedUser]

And don’t go posting your grow on Facebook would be another good tip. I am planning on growing up to 10 high cbd hemp plants next year. I wonder how that will fly....?

Not flapping your gums on any social media site is so basic I figured it was included with keeping your yap shut.

I've had a F**kBook account since it started and not a mention of pot on it but I so rarely log on there and just to read messages someone has posted. Then I give them my email and tell them they can contact me that way.

I do not think highly of people who spend all their time on sites like FB. Or growing horns on the backs of their heads from staring at a stupid phone all day either.

 

[OldMedUser]

My RH for the last little bit since they were all transplanted have been pretty steady between 30 - 40. I never feed directly under the lights and always rinse any leaves off with clean water if I get any solution on them and remove any droplets before putting them directly back under the lights.

My water is just tap that I let sit out for a few days to evaporate all the chlorine and then ph it to 6.0 - 6.5

Even pure water can leave spots on leaves lights on or not.

Sometimes one leaf drapes over another and moisture gets trapped between the two and causes brown spots just that same colour on the lower leaf. Puzzled the hell out of me until I figured it out years ago. Not something I've ever seen mentioned in any grow book. Generally in a crowded grow room tho. I call it leaf sweat damage.

 

[budsmoker247]

Now 44 day's into veg. One of the four got the axe after showing male pre flowers. Having issues with slowed, twisty, lime green mixed with some brown/burnt looking growth. I suspect im having a lockout of boron due to ph. Since my high tech meter shit the bed I don't have much in terms to do testing so im wondering what's peoples opinions on those all in one ph spike/moisture meters you stick in the ground. are they fairly accurate? I need to get a good reading on my soils ph so im wondering if they're good enough before I go grab one. There isn't much here in terms of grow shops etc, just our local garden centers and I don't have time to order a new meter. Water is going in at 6 - 6.5 but I suspect it's coming out low to be causing the lockout.

I've held back on nutes for the last 3-4 day's and gave just ph'd water but no change.

 

[OldMedUser]

They're looking good overall. I have one of those two-pronged 3-in1 probes and don't trust it for pH readings. I bought mine at least 18 years ago and now just use it to measure light intensity around the periphery of the garden or to compare light output from different bulbs.

I used a little boric acid to correct what I thought was low boron and it didn't hurt. Got it at the drug store.

 

[budsmoker247]

They're looking good overall. I have one of those two-pronged 3-in1 probes and don't trust it for pH readings. I bought mine at least 18 years ago and now just use it to measure light intensity around the periphery of the garden or to compare light output from different bulbs.

I used a little boric acid to correct what I thought was low boron and it didn't hurt. Got it at the drug store.

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I was out running some errands so I ended up grabbing one anyway which is giving me a reading of high 7's, im wondering if too much lime was added since the HP was already amended and then I added my own. everything I read on HP from other growers said you should add 1 tbsp. of dolomite lime per gallon, which is what I did.

so now the question is how can I lower the ph of the soil a bit? Should i just lower the ph of my water to a 5 - 5.5 do ya think? I know it's easier to go up then it is to go down

attached 2 pics of separate tops from the same plant.

 

[budsmoker247]

I was out running some errands so I ended up grabbing one anyway which is giving me a reading of high 7's, im wondering if too much lime was added since the HP was already amended and then I added my own. everything I read on HP from other growers said you should add 1 tbsp. of dolomite lime per gallon, which is what I did.

so now the question is how can I lower the ph of the soil a bit? I know it's easier to go up then it is to go down

attached 2 pics of separate tops from the same plant.

This pic is of the plant next to it, which doesn't seem to be suffering as bad (YET)

 

[OldMedUser]

Now that I can see the tops close up it looks like it might just be a little heat stress causing the twisting. And if that yellow in the centers isn't just because of rapid growth and they aren't turned green yet then it's more indicative of low iron than boron.

Wouldn't hurt to water in some pH 5. It won't stay at 5 for long once in the pots.

 

[budsmoker247]

Now that I can see the tops close up it looks like it might just be a little heat stress causing the twisting. And if that yellow in the centers isn't just because of rapid growth and they aren't turned green yet then it's more indicative of low iron than boron.

Wouldn't hurt to water in some pH 5. It won't stay at 5 for long once in the pots.

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It's just weird that they were thriving here in this pic like, just last week, growing perfectly and then this started happening. My temp has been pretty consistent the whole time at about 25 - 28, Rh between 30 - 40 and they were loving it. My lights are not close to the tops at all. about a foot if not a little more above my tallest plant and further from the smaller ones and even those are starting to turn.


I think ill flush again once they dry out with some ph 5 and see if they bounce back at all. if they do i'll have to try and track down some aluminum sulphate to drop my soil ph a bit, although i'd rather not. I'll probably also hold back on the calmag cause I been adding it pretty regularly and I remember reading at some point somewhere that too much of it can cause lockouts of other nutes. I just don't wanna be doing to much to them to stress them out even more since they're all showing female. I should of caught back on my reading before jumping headfirst back in I guess but, you live you learn.

 

[OldMedUser]

Gypsum is supposed to acidify the soil too I believe and it's Calcium Sulphate. Not sure how fast either of those work tho so it may be futile.

I'd just use pH 5 water and see what happens first. Most people don't push enough and will use pH 6 when they believe the soil pH is 7 figuring it'll split the difference and make the root zone pH 6.5. I don't work that way.