wow, WTF police?

[Fogdog]

If I've said this once I've said it a thousand times:

The BIG, HUGE problem with policing right now is the propensity of law enforcement to want ex-military as employees. They want ex-military because they're already trained in combat tactics and use of weapons, so they save a great deal of time and money on training.

The problem with that is a lot of these guys and gals are damaged goods. They don't teach civic lessons at boot camp...or anywhere else in the military. They teach you how to kill people and dominate people.

So you send these folks over to the middle east, let them shoot people at will and beat them down like dogs, then you bring them back here, give them a badge and very similar weaponry to what they had in Afghanistan and turn them lose on the American People.

It's a recipe for disaster and has proven to be an increasing problem over the last 20 years.

That part about how police with military service are more likely to be rogue cops is unfairly biased against people who served in the military. You make a huge jump to a conclusion. I doubt there are any facts to back that assertion up.

 

[Fogdog]

That is what we are trained to do is to kill. Combat vets with PTSD should not be cops imo. I don’t even own a gun because I know I have issues. Also look at who the union of the police is. The Fraternal Order of Police. It is a Masonic organization. Some speculate that many of the killings are ritual blood sacrifices. View attachment 4408390

Seth Rich, Chemtrails, Moon Landing faked, Freemason blood sacrifices

LOL

 

[Budley Doright]

As far as Ptsd? Not a good idea. I can tell you if I was a cop and I ran into a dumb fk like you, I wouldn’t hesitate to put an entire clip in you. It wouldn’t affect me one bit and I would smoke a cig after.

Off the meds you say....... you should get a refill .

 

[Budley Doright]

That part about how police with military service are more likely to be rogue cops is unfairly biased against people who served in the military. You make a huge jump to a conclusion. I doubt there are any facts to back that assertion up.

100% of all police killings are by ex military? I wonder if that’s part of the curriculum?

 

[kelly4]

II deleted my last comment because even I got disgusted by it. And, I talk shit all day. Practically for a living.


I fucking hate talking about cops.

Dang, now I’m curious...

 

[Obepawn]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/13/fort-worth-shooting-police-release-video-family-demands-justice/3968377002/

just wow....wtf police? unless that video shows her stabbing her nephew....this is just a load of shit...if this cop gets off with anything short of a murder conviction, fort worth deserves the riots it'll get, and more

Nothing new here. I’ve seen this behavior my whole life. It will never change because it’s cultural conditioning driving the fear and disregard of the lives of blacks and other people of color.

 

[kelly4]

Is saying “I fucking LOVE this place!!!” not allowed? Does someone here not like that I LOVE this fucking place?
I’m sorry...









I HATE this place!!!


All better?

 

[scumrot derelict]

Is saying “I fucking LOVE this place!!!” not allowed? Does someone here not like that I LOVE this fucking place?
I’m sorry...









I HATE this place!!!


All better?

Get the fuck out, bro. You're allowed to say whatever the fuck you want. Also, show me them thiddies. Bust 'em out.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Nothing new here. I’ve seen this behavior my whole life. It will never change because it’s cultural conditioning driving the fear and disregard of the lives of blacks and other people of color.

i'm white, and i've never shot one person of color...and have no plans to in the near future. i hate to make plans more than a couple of weeks ahead though, never know when the apocalypse will happen and everyone is suddenly edible.
apparently i've ignored "culture" enough to not want to shoot anyone through a window, no matter what color they are.
you just need to breed more people like me, socially inept assholes who question everything everyone tells them, and who consider most laws to be general guidelines for staying out of trouble, and not rules to live by.

 

[UncleBuck]

I don’t even own a gun

we know, russians aren’t allowed to own guns

 

[scumrot derelict]

That part about how police with military service are more likely to be rogue cops is unfairly biased against people who served in the military. You make a huge jump to a conclusion. I doubt there are any facts to back that assertion up.

There may not be any solid data to back it up, but if you'll allow some of my shitty logical fallacies including but not excluding:

-appeal to tradition
-re-compisition
-special pleading

Don't most cops have to deal with so much bullshit, and especially including the ones who are vets - need to be treated differently when we take their actions in line of service as judgement in their entire view of justice? Is that an outrageous question for someone to ask to you?

I think maybe you know what i'm poing at here adn prbbly just wanted to hear your thoughts abt why so many local leo's get away with so much and what you'd do to fix how we deal with that.

 

[Fogdog]

There may not be any solid data to back it up, but if you'll allow some of my shitty logical fallacies including but not excluding:

-appeal to tradition
-re-compisition
-special pleading

Don't most cops have to deal with so much bullshit, and especially including the ones who are vets - need to be treated differently when we take their actions in line of service as judgement in their entire view of justice? Is that an outrageous question for someone to ask to you?

I think maybe you know what i'm poing at here adn prbbly just wanted to hear your thoughts abt why so many local leo's get away with so much and what you'd do to fix how we deal with that.

IMO, the root of the problem is not mental illness. The root of the problem is police culture. Police departments are fraternities where they look out for each other first. A police officer who commits sadistic racist assaults isn't flagged for it. Cops look out for each other first. Add into this the history of racism and violence in the police forces. It's part of their culture. I think that is what needs to be addressed, not ptsd.

 

[scumrot derelict]

IMO, the root of the problem is not mental illness. The root of the problem is police culture. Police departments are fraternities where they look out for each other first. A police officer who commits sadistic racist assaults isn't flagged for it. Cops look out for each other first. Add into this the history of racism and violence in the police forces. It's part of their culture. I think that is what needs to be addressed, not ptsd.

That's fair. Thank you for letting me devil's advocate a second.

 

[Fogdog]

That's fair. Thank you for letting me devil's advocate a second.

I think that real discussions are too few. So, thanks for sparking one up and shooting the shit.

 

[Budley Doright]

When I was a kid the cops I interacted with were pretty cool, and were respected, even when I was breaking the law, then it changed and cool became asshole. I’m speaking of my own personal experience and what I see in the news so views can be different. There are still the old time cops here (rural Ontario) that are pretty decent but the young ones are junior chipmunks with guns. What I don’t get is how the fuck do these people walk away from what is blatantly murder with a jury deciding? It’s no longer the brotherhood but a jury of peers who can see (video usually) that it was cold blooded killing. I also think they should be held to a higher standard not lower.

 

[scumrot derelict]

When I was a kid the cops I interacted with were pretty cool, and were respected, even when I was breaking the law, then it changed and cool became asshole. I’m speaking of my own personal experience and what I see in the news so views can be different. There are still the old time cops here (rural Ontario) that are pretty decent but the young ones are junior chipmunks with guns. What I don’t get is how the fuck do these people walk away from what is blatantly murder with a jury deciding? It’s no longer the brotherhood but a jury of peers who can see (video usually) that it was cold blooded killing. I also think they should be held to a higher standard not lower.

One time a county sheriff flashed the lights on us, literally ignored a few lines of crank on my CD case, made us pour out all our budweisers, told me to "straighten you r shit out" had my car towed and impounded but then drove me 8 miles home.

That was the single time i can remember being like "woa, fuck, maybe cops arent such assholes".

Then a week later I spent 3 months in county jail for breaking into this dudes house to steal some food, and some of his tools. The DA couldn't prove that there was any duress or threats, and let the felony charge duck for a shitload of community service. iwas 19 years old,

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

One time a county sheriff flashed the lights on us, literally ignored a few lines of crank on my CD case, made us pour out all our budweisers, told me to "straighten you r shit out" had my car towed and impounded but then drove me 8 miles home.

That was the single time i can remember being like "woa, fuck, maybe cops arent such assholes".

Then a week later I spent 3 months in county jail for breaking into this dudes house to steal some food, and some of his tools. The DA couldn't prove that there was any duress or threats, and let the felony charge duck for a shitload of community service. iwas 19 years old,

i don't think they did you a favor dropping the charges...and i'm not making a stupid joke. i don't like a lot of the laws, but if i get caught breaking them, i know what's coming. letting kids off is teaching them that they can break the rules and get away with it, if they have a pathetic enough story and can make a good enough sad puppy face....i say they get the full penalty every time, and learn that sad puppy face means shit to the rest of the world

 

[Obepawn]

No free rides home for black or Mexican folk but they don’t mind giving us free bullets.

 

[Fogdog]

It may be different here but murder 1 requires preplanning and murder 2 requires intent. Shooting someone in the chest cavity should be intent. What you described would be murder 1 here. Also did you have a look at the numbers I mentioned, seems there is a discrepancy. Being always right, I’m sure it was my mistake not yours..........cough lol.

A Houston cop was recently convicted on a murder 2 charge for doing almost exactly the same thing that happened in Ft Worth. She tried to use the "but I was in fear of my life" excuse and even the Texas jury didn't buy it. It used to work every time so maybe the times are changing.

 

[scumrot derelict]

i don't think they did you a favor dropping the charges...and i'm not making a stupid joke. i don't like a lot of the laws, but if i get caught breaking them, i know what's coming. letting kids off is teaching them that they can break the rules and get away with it, if they have a pathetic enough story and can make a good enough sad puppy face....i say they get the full penalty every time, and learn that sad puppy face means shit to the rest of the world

thats fair, dude