Nirvana PPP and Snow White Grow (First try)

[BenSmokin]

Lol. I do now! I am amazed at how the PPP seems to jump out of the ground! It seems that about every other day they look like different plants!

Your bag seed plants look sweeter than mine do too! I read in your journal about how you move your bag plants in and out of your tent for flowering. Great idea. My dumb ass moved my bag seed plants into my outdoor garden to flower. I thought some natural light might do some good and it did, but they also seemed to stretch a bit. I guess that is why you experiment with bag seed!

Any heat problems?

 

[Abnjm]

Lol. I do now! I am amazed at how the PPP seems to jump out of the ground! It seems that about every other day they look like different plants!

Your bag seed plants look sweeter than mine do too! I read in your journal about how you move your bag plants in and out of your tent for flowering. Great idea. My dumb ass moved my bag seed plants into my outdoor garden to flower. I thought some natural light might do some good and it did, but they also seemed to stretch a bit. I guess that is why you experiment with bag seed!

Any heat problems?

It's been really cool watching these plants grow. Tell me if you still like my idea in a couple of weeks after hauling your plant in and out of the tent twice a day. Luckily I only had to do it for two weeks before the good stuff went to 12/12. I'm hoping keeping it in the tent with the HPS light will fill out the buds.

Had the usual problems with heat at first, that's why I threw the bagseed plant in there before I germed the good seeds. I've got the tent dialed in to a constant lights on temp of 77F, and 68F at lights out. I'm flooding for 15 minutes 5 times during the lights on period, with the last flood coming 2 hours prior to lights off, and the first flood when the lights come on.

 

[softfx]

Nice setup man, good job , your plants look really nice, very bushy, they will explode with flowers...

I just started 2 Feminized PPP from Nirvana shop. All I have though is a 250w MH. For the moment it is about 6in away from the babies (3 days since they saw the light) The leaves are "streching" toward the light a lot , in a very pronounced "V" shape. And on of the first rounded leaf, seems to be diying and drying already... Im just wondering if all of this is normal behavior ?

Oh , and im growing in normal soil + perlite medium...

Thanks for sharing you thoughts on the PPP strain , and good luck with the flowering process.... Im very curious about it....

 

[Abnjm]

Nice setup man, good job , your plants look really nice, very bushy, they will explode with flowers...

I just started 2 Feminized PPP from Nirvana shop. All I have though is a 250w MH. For the moment it is about 6in away from the babies (3 days since they saw the light) The leaves are "streching" toward the light a lot , in a very pronounced "V" shape. And on of the first rounded leaf, seems to be diying and drying already... Im just wondering if all of this is normal behavior ?

Oh , and im growing in normal soil + perlite medium...

Thanks for sharing you thoughts on the PPP strain , and good luck with the flowering process.... Im very curious about it....

Thanks for checking out my grow softfx. You should have some excellent results with a 250w over two plants. I don't think I ever got my air-cooled light closer than 12" to my plants. How do you have yours cooled?

While I never had the "v" shaped stretching I think you are describing, I have seen others with the same problem. I can't remember if I ever saw a post on the cause of it, or a recommended fix. If I see one of those posts again, I'll be sure to let you know. The first rounded leaf died on my plants very early on, and I think is considered normal growth. If you have access to a camera, post some pics on the "Plant Problems" forum, and the dankmasters on the board will give you plenty of advice. I also recommend starting a grow journal. A few of the sloid operators on this board check in on mine, and offer advice as needed. The more eyes on your grow the better.....

I have learned that as a new grower, I probably over-reacted to every perceived problem with my plants, and things turned out fine by continuing to follow my original lighting and feeding plan.

Good luck with your grow. Let me know if you start a log, and I'll subscribe.

 

[Abnjm]

Nute numbers since the res change:

10/22: EC 2.2 / 1100 ppm; 6.2pH. Add 1t pH down to 5.8pH, 120ml H2O2(3%).

10/23: EC 2.3 / 1150 ppm; 6.2pH. Add 1/2 gal Dist water, 2 gal 2.2/100, 5.4pH nute solution, 1 t pH down to 5.6pH
Changed feed cycle to 15 min flood every 4 hours. (From 3 hrs)

10/24: EC 2.2 / 1100 ppm; 5.9pH.

10/25: EC 2.2 / 1100 ppm; 6.1pH. Add 1t pH down. 120 ml H2O2 (3%) to
5.9pH

10/26: EC 2.1 / 1050 ppm; 6.0pH. Add 1 gal tap water (8.5pH, 400ppm)

CHANGED TO 12/12 LIGHTING

10/27: EC 2.0 / 1000 ppm; 6.2pH. Add 2 t pH down to 5.7pH, 100ml H2O2(3%)

10/28: EC 2.1 / 1050 ppm; 5.7pH.

I'm going to pour 5 gallons of tap water with 50ml of Clearex over the plants prior to changing the res to the GH "Transition Mix" this afternoon.

 

[Abnjm]

New res mix:

I used the GH hard water model for "Transition" at full strength:

FloraGrow: 100ml
FloraBloom: 100ml
FloraMicro(HW): 100ml
FloraBlend: 100ml
Liquid Koolbloom: 25ml
Floraliscious+: 10ml
SuperThrive: 1 tsp
H2O2 (3%): 120ml

5 gal tap and 5 gal distilled water mixed to EC 2.8 / 1400 ppm @ 6.2pH. Added 2 T pH down for a final 5.8pH.

This is the third day of 12/12 hour lighting. Flushed plants and tray with 5 gal tap water and 50 ml Clearex. Changed and cleaned res. Old tank had some algae growing on the bottom. Scrubbed and wiped down with H2O2(3%). Sprayed plants with neem oil.

All three plants:

Bagseed plant showing some bud action:

 

[pimpnitjc]

I am not sure which chart to use off the website, the drain to waste or the recirculating keep it simple program. I am using a 3'x3' ebb flow system
Also the GH ppm calculater only goes up to 10 gallons..my res is 30 gallons Do you just mulitply the PPM on the calculater X 3?

 

[Abnjm]

I am not sure which chart to use off the website, the drain to waste or the recirculating keep it simple program. I am using a 3'x3' ebb flow system
Also the GH ppm calculater only goes up to 10 gallons..my res is 30 gallons Do you just mulitply the PPM on the calculater X 3?

Ebb and Flo would be a recirculating system. I also use the "Simple" program level and "Normal" feeding schedule. You can type in any reservoir size in the box........ Like I said in my post on your thread, I type "2.5" in the reservoir box for 1/4 strength nutes in my 10 gallon res.

Good Luck!

 

[JayDoe71]

Hey man,

Great grow, I'm a week or so away from harvesting a very small snow white plant for my first grow ever. I gotta ask - how was your bagseed weed? That's definetely a sativa, right?

Anyway, really nice, clean setup....I'll be watching this one

 

[Abnjm]

Hey man,

Great grow, I'm a week or so away from harvesting a very small snow white plant for my first grow ever. I gotta ask - how was your bagseed weed? That's definetely a sativa, right?

Anyway, really nice, clean setup....I'll be watching this one

Hey Jay,

I've been following your grow also. I had the same H2O2 questions you did, and I think I'm using it correctly. I hope the move goes well, and your little plant makes the trip OK. I'm just a noob, but I'm gonna guess it's 1/2 oz. The power of positive thinking.....

The bagseed plant has only been in flower for 2 weeks, and has been under HPS for only a week. Prior to that, I had it in the tent under the MH the other plants were vegging under. Before putting the other plants in flower, I would take it out of the tent every night and put it in a light proof closet. It's definately a sativa, and I really tortured it getting my tent dialed in. Any production at all would be a win with this plant.

I will certainly do a yield / smoke report when I chop it. It will be my first harvest ever! 6 weeks!

 

[Abnjm]

Finishing up my 1st week of flower for the good stuff, 2nd week of flower for the bagseed plant. I measured one of my fan leaves on the PPP, it had 9 leaves and was over 9" across. Stems on all three plants are over 1" thick at the base, and they have grown approximately 4" in height since flower started. They have used over 4 gallons of water from the res since last Sunday. Bagseed plant is coming along. The three main stems appear to be forming colas, and there are 20 smaller bud sites throughout the plant. I'm hoping that because I vegged it so long, the flower cycle won't be a full 8 weeks. gettin kinda dry around here.....


One week flower:

Bagseed:

Any tips, tricks or advice is always appreciated!

 

[kpw555]

Yer grow is looking smack dude. I hope mine turn out that well.

+rep fer being anal.

 

[Scalded Dog]

very nice looks as it will be a great thanksgiving harvest for you

 

[Abnjm]

Yer grow is looking smack dude. I hope mine turn out that well.

+rep fer being anal.

Reading RIU has given me all the information I need, and I've been very lucky. You are well on your way to some dank smokage also.

I'm definitely not an anal guy, but I figure this grow log will be a good reference for my next grow....

Thanks for the +rep.

 

[BenSmokin]

Reading RIU has given me all the information I need, and I've been very lucky. You are well on your way to some dank smokage also.

I'm definitely not an anal guy, but I figure this grow log will be a good reference for my next grow....

Thanks for the +rep.

Looking good man! I am still watching! I hope my ppp looks as good as yours! Good job!kiss-ass

 

[Abnjm]

Nute numbers since the last update:


10/29: EC 2.4 / 1200 ppm; 6.0pH. Add 1t pH down to 5.8pH, 120ml H2O2(3%).

10/30: EC 2.5 / 1250 ppm; 6.1pH. Add 1t pH down to 5.7pH

10/31: EC 2.5 / 1250 ppm; 6.1pH. Add 1/2 t pH down to 5.6

11/01: EC 2.6 / 1300 ppm; 5.8pH. Add 10 ml H2O2 (35%), 1 Gal DW.


Added another water pump to the res to keep water moving. It's been warm here the past week, and lights-on temps have averaged in the high 70's, lights out temps are in the mid 60's(F).

Today I am changing the res to the GH Flora "Bloom" formulation for the second week in 12/12 lighting. Mixed the nutrients yesterday to be sure numbers are stable. Sprayed both plants with Neem oil just before lights out on Saturday night.

The bagseed plant's upper fan leaves have been a little droopy near the colas. I had been feeding every other watering. I noticed some of the leaves had red stems, so the last two waterings had bloom nutes in them. The leaves appear to have perked up this morning.

I will update with pictures when I do the res change.

ADDED: On Saturday, I changed flood cycle to 15 minutes 3 times daily. One hour after lights-on, once in the middle of the lights-on cycle, and once 2 hours prior to lights out.

 

[Abnjm]

very nice looks as it will be a great thanksgiving harvest for you

Thanks for stopping by Dog. I don't think I'll be able to harvest until mid December on the bagseed plant and New Year's Eve for the PPP. I just started the PPP at the end of September, and threw them into 12/12 lighting a week ago.

I thought the waiting would get easier as the grow progressed.

I was wrong.

 

[kpw555]

I thought the waiting would get easier as the grow progressed.

I was wrong.

This is definitely not a hobby for the impatient.

 

[Abnjm]

This is definitely not a hobby for the impatient.

Not only will I get some bud, I will also be more anal and patient by the end of the grow.

Weed and self-improvement in one hobby!

 

[kpw555]

Not only will I get some bud, I will also be more anal and patient by the end of the grow.

Weed and self-improvement in one hobby!

Amazing to me how relaxing the whole thing is even if it is really a lot of waiting.