Aussie Growers Thread

Aussieaceae

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I wonder if Beers Burtha would be legal to grow. Does the "wet" weight only apply after u cut the stalk? Would u be in breach before u cut her down or the moment u do snip the stem? Do you ring someone to say "hey im over by a tad (2 and 1/2 pounds..)what do i do?"
Good question.
In a bust, isn't it the total plant material that's weighed, on top of plant count?

If it's so, probably likely to be the same. Because bertha would theoretically yield far more than 50 grams dry.
I imagine that's where the 150 grams wet comes in?

Geez 150 grams total material is a small plant. Still a suck, but better than nothing I guess.
Might be a step in the right direction, hopefully.
 

Lucky Luke

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It’s never going to happen like that and wouldn’t change it’s legal status in most cases.

Also by that argument we should just make poppies a flower again and make it legal for people to lance their own bulbs for opium.
why carnt they? paddocks and paddocks of the stuff here.
 

Aussieaceae

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Just remove it from the drugs registry. Fk legal. Just make it a bloody flower again like it is.
Imho if commercial sale is our priority, then ideally we should be paying tax on it.
It would otherwise be illegal.

But while it's still a crime to grow, ATO can go screw themselves.
 

reza92

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Just remove it from the drugs registry. Fk legal. Just make it a bloody flower again like it is.

But how do u despose of it- u cannot give it away. And as soon as u know ur over how much time have u got do dispose of it? U could harvest at 10am and have the police arrive at 10:05- Your in breech.
congratulations. You’ve finally figured out why decriminalisation is only a step towards legalisation and why it’s still shit.
 

reza92

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Imho if commercial sale is our priority, then ideally we should be paying tax on it.
It would otherwise be illegal.

But while it's still a crime to grow, ATO can go screw themselves.
It could be made legal without the legislation to allow a commercial industry out of its cultivation. It won’t but it could.
 

Lucky Luke

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I’m not defending anything. you’ve previously stated you’d rather decriminalisation over legalisation. Your now complaining about decriminalisation. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy.
im pointing out how its been done, and its not decriminalised as its still a federal crime. ACT uses federal police.
If anything growers look to face more breaches.
 

reza92

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im pointing out how its been done, and its not decriminalised as its still a federal crime. ACT uses federal police.
its still decriminalisation under state law. your complaining about the actual decriminalisation parts. It was always still going to be federally criminal and nothing was going to change that
 

Lucky Luke

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The Federal Government has made it clear that it opposes this shift and has threatened to use the Australian Federal Police (AFP) to enforce its own criminal laws against Canberrans who choose to light up.

What some of the changes in the capital mean in practice remains under a cloud.

What's legal now that wasn't before?
Technically, nothing. Growing and using cannabis is not legal; it's just no longer criminal. And, depending on the amount, it may not earn you a fine either.

The ACT Government said it was not encouraging people to use the drug, but it knows that they do. Instead, it wants to help them stop using it rather than drag them through the legal system over a joint.

Possessing under 50g of cannabis has been decriminalised in the ACT for a while, but the laws introduced on Friday go even further.

Previously, an adult caught with a plant would have faced a $160 fine under ACT law, now there is no fine.


All its done is help those who buy an ounce every so often. For growers it was probably better before.
 

reza92

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The Federal Government has made it clear that it opposes this shift and has threatened to use the Australian Federal Police (AFP) to enforce its own criminal laws against Canberrans who choose to light up.

What some of the changes in the capital mean in practice remains under a cloud.

What's legal now that wasn't before?
Technically, nothing. Growing and using cannabis is not legal; it's just no longer criminal. And, depending on the amount, it may not earn you a fine either.

The ACT Government said it was not encouraging people to use the drug, but it knows that they do. Instead, it wants to help them stop using it rather than drag them through the legal system over a joint.

Possessing under 50g of cannabis has been decriminalised in the ACT for a while, but the laws introduced on Friday go even further.

Previously, an adult caught with a plant would have faced a $160 fine under ACT law, now there is no fine.


All its done is help those who buy an ounce every so often. For growers it was probably better before.
even if the fed government decriminalised it would still probably have the same or stricter limits on possession and probably an outright ban on growing still.

what the state is effectively saying is its not worth the time or energy to go after small time users in the courts and would rather take that money and use it to go after the bigger fish.

as I said I don’t see the afp starting to doraids for people possessing <50g or a plant and having to charge them with federal crimes through the federal system
 

reza92

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a referendum would maybe change that.
it’s not in the constitution it doesn’t need a referendum, it literally only has to be passed by sitting parliament same as any degree of legislation.

what we are getting is a bit like the American legalisation. Hopefully now one states taken a step others will too which will put more pressure on the federal government. I’m still hoping for legalisation in some form but, I want to be able to smoke without any forms of repercussions criminal or otherwise.
 

Lucky Luke

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even if the fed government decriminalised it would still probably have the same or stricter limits on possession and probably an outright ban on growing still.

what the state is effectively saying is its not worth the time or energy to go after small time users in the courts and would rather take that money and use it to go after the bigger fish.

as I said I don’t see the afp starting to doraids for people possessing <50g or a plant and having to charge them with federal crimes through the federal system
Thats what ive been saying,
Its like here for possession of an ounce. Just a warning for three times in 10 years. Not worth the court time.
 
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