The Impeachment Of Donald Trump

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New Rule: Do the Wrong Thing | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

In his editorial New Rule, Bill tells Democrats it's time to fight dirty and offers up some unscrupulous material to get them started.
 
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captainmorgan said:
So when are they going to start the trial?
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The trial will continue in the house and press, you're on the jury now, the GOP senate failed you and the constitution. You're in for a Helluva time with lying, stealing and cheating until november and perhaps after... Trump and his minions will be desperate, it's win or prison, Putin has a lot on the line too.

No trials for Trump until he's out of office.
 
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The religious right will never change their minds. They can't. It would mean that they are living a lie. The don will be elected again imho. Unless the market keeps getting worse. Then the greedy vote comes into play. So yes it's the evangelicals and the greedy have teamed up. The strongest virus wins. Not the nicest.....
 
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Yep, the backstop is the election, if they and Donald don't pay then yer fucked.
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Velshi: Did The System Fail With This Impeachment Trial? | MSNBC

Did this impeachment trial fail by voting to not call on witnesses? MSNBC’s Ali Velshi discusses with the National Constitution Center’s Jeffrey Rosen and former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance.
 
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Other than hitting the streets in mass protests, those who oppose Trump and the republicans are left with one alternative, vote them out by a large margin. They will try to lie, cheat and steal election wins and the lack of integrity demonstrated by the GOP means that any state that they control has the potential to be stolen. Gerrymandering doesn't work for senate and presidential elections, a lot of the Russian social media interference was been suppressed and their money choked off and exposed. They are gonna have to engage in massive voter suppression and election fraud to win in november and I would expect Bill Barr (if he's still around) and the GOP DOJ to be involved. Donald will be going bananas at his rallies and on twitter, spouting all kinds of crazy shit (situation normal).

If America is up to the job, it should be a massacre of the elephants this fall, if they lose the senate and Donald is defeated a lot of people besides Donald are gonna be terrified. Donald might issue thousands of pardons between november and january, or he might jump on AF-1 and head for Russia and sanctuary from a "deep state coup", leaving Mitch and the remaining republicans holding a big bag of shit. If Donald issued pardons for all those involved in his crimes, he might be the only one left holding the bag and all those he pardoned would testify against him anyway, that would make Donald one mighty sucker in his mind, being the only one to pay is not Donald's style. Besides, if he pardoned those who he was a party with in a criminal conspiracy, the pardons might be challenged and struck down by the SCOTUS.

Imagine what would be going through the minds of people like Barr, Pompeo, Mulveny, Perry and Rudy (hard to tell if Rudy even has a mind) and dozens of others who were "in the loop", after an election win by the democrats. Any proper investigation, grand jury, court and judge would put the lot of them away for a long time, this is a very serious conspiracy and crime(s). A lot of people are gonna be desperate this fall, not just Donald and his minions, but Putin and MBS in Saudi too, so expect some serious attempts of foreign inference in your 2020 election.
 
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dandyrandy said:
The religious right will never change their minds. They can't. It would mean that they are living a lie. The don will be elected again imho. Unless the market keeps getting worse. Then the greedy vote comes into play. So yes it's the evangelicals and the greedy have teamed up. The strongest virus wins. Not the nicest.....
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It's the old God, guns and greed GOP, not much really changed, they just got more desperate and open about their "feelings". That kind of fundamentalist christian is a born sucker, they already believe easily disproved shit, they are a lot like the flat earth crowd, except they were socially conditioned for the most part and the flat earthers are unmitigated morons. It's a belief that you can get through the pearly gates by faith and faith alone, you can act like shit 6 days a week, it was the religion of slave owners. It's also one of the things like guns that unite their descendants and supporters, it's a tribal symbol to them too. These folks were at war with science and reality long before Donald showed up and their reasons for supporting Trump have nothing to do with religion, quite the opposite. Traditionally a christian got into heaven by attaining a state of grace, ya can't get past St Peter with a heart full of hate, what kind of place would heaven be then? No baggage is allowed in heaven, bigotry and racism are a burden you'd have to drop, love thy neighbor the bible says, God does the judging, not you.
 
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hillbill said:
30 years of hate based radio. Fux News and worse and greedy corrupt TV preacher assholes have worked their evil. Ownership of bigc chunks of media by extremist billionaires sucks also.
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If the democrats win it all in 2020 the FCC should and probably will look into that shit along with social media and the internet, I'd look for big changes. If you don't learn from your mistakes and adapt, yer screwed, have a look at H.R. -1 currently stalled in the senate, it would go a long way towards fixing things and that is just the beginning. Ya gotta win first though, so don't just vote, work and volunteer too, drive others to the polls and get out the vote, help people register and make sure they are on the voting rolls etc. If your out on election day, don't forget to video any voter suppression, polling irregularities, or shenanigans with your cell phone too and post it on social media. Do more than just vote, bring a friend to the polls, fight for your country too and get in the face of those who would cheat and steal.

The fight for liberty is fought constantly, in many ways and on many fronts by every generation, Franklin said, you have "a republic if you can keep it". Someone should sell a Tee shirt with, " Donald Trump is the kind of person (president) your founding fathers warned you about". Donald Trump is a corrupt, unfit, criminal traitor who sold out America to Putin and the highest bidder, all of this will be proved beyond a reasonable doubt one day in a court of law, much has been already.
 
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A small sample of the shit falling from the sky, even before the trial is officially over, there's gonna be a lot more before november.
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Trump administration reveals it's blocking dozens of emails about Ukraine aid freeze, including President's role
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Trump administration reveals it's blocking dozens of emails about Ukraine aid freeze, including President's role

The Department of Justice revealed in a court filing late Friday that it has two dozen emails related to President Donald Trump's involvement in the withholding of millions in security assistance to Ukraine -- a disclosure that came just hours after the Senate voted against subpoenaing...
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Washington (CNN)The Department of Justice revealed in a court filing late Friday that it has two dozen emails related to President Donald Trump's involvement in the withholding of millions in security assistance to Ukraine -- a disclosure that came just hours after the Senate voted against subpoenaing additional documents and witnesses in Trump's impeachment trial, paving the way for his acquittal.
The filing, released near midnight Friday, marks the first official acknowledgment from the Trump administration that emails about the President's thinking related to the aid exist, and that he was directly involved in asking about and deciding on the aid as early as June. The administration is still blocking those emails from the public and has successfully kept them from Congress.
A lawyer with the Office of Management and Budget wrote to the court that 24 emails between June and September 2019 -- including an internal discussion among DOD officials called "POTUS follow-up" on June 24 -- should stay confidential because the emails describe "communications by either the President, the Vice President, or the President's immediate advisors regarding Presidential decision-making about the scope, duration, and purpose of the hold on military assistance to Ukraine.
Trump's decision to withhold nearly $400 million in US military aid to Ukraine as he pressed the country to investigate Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, his potential 2020 general election rival, are at the center of the President's impeachment trial. Trump and his allies have repeatedly made unfounded and false claims to allege that the Bidens acted corruptly in Ukraine.


Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement on Saturday, "Every single Republican Senator voted to endorse the White House cover-up of these potentially important truth-revealing emails. Make no mistake, the full truth will eventually come out and Republicans will have to answer for why they were so determined to enable the president to hide it."
The Senate on Friday defeated an attempt to subpoena documents and witnesses, which could have revealed more about the actions of Trump and the officials closest to him related to Ukraine. Senate leadership on Wednesday plans to hold the final vote to acquit Trump on charges of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

Here's what we've learned from Trump's impeachment trial
Government officials testified in the House's impeachment inquiry to the existence of what appears to be some of the emails.
"The day after DOD issued its June 18 press release announcing $250 million in security assistance funds for Ukraine, President Trump started asking OMB questions about the funding for Ukraine," the House outlined in its impeachment report.
The House noted that the OMB refused to turn over any documents when subpoenaed during the probe, and that emails may exist showing acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney passing along the President's order to halt the aid to Ukraine.
"The Committees also have good-faith reason to believe that the Office of Management and Budget is in possession of and continues to withhold significantly more documents and records responsive to the subpoena and of direct relevance to the impeachment inquiry," the House wrote before it voted to impeach the President for obstruction of Congress.
The filings from the executive branch came Friday to meet a court-ordered January 31 deadline. A judge had specifically asked for an email-by-email breakdown of what the Justice Department redacted or withheld in Defense Department and OMB emails about the aid, and why it did so, after the Center for Public Integrity sued and got access to them in December through the Freedom of Information Act.
 
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