AP: Report: Director of National Intelligence reports to Congress about Russia boosting Trump in upcoming election. And promptly gets fired.

[DIY-HP-LED]

I understand economics too much to be scared by the boogeyman 'Wall Street'. Bloomberg is a legit candidate for President, he is a Republican, but unfortunately the Republicans have been co-opted into Trump's cult so everyone has to run as a Democrat. It really is Trump or a all inclusive America at this point.

The cumulative effect of decades of lobbying and outright bribery will have to be rolled back and many on Wall St. benefit from the current system. If you understand economics you know that trade, mass markets and especially the internet concentrate wealth and lead to an imbalance in society with today's economic and tax policies. Economies are ecosystems too and should be healthy from top to bottom if they are serving their purpose. It's not just America, money is a corrosive and pernicious force upon good government and policy globally, capitalism breeds corruption and that must be checked. Smith spoke of the hidden hand of markets, trade and free enterprise, he also mentioned the other hand, the one in yer face, law, regulation, taxes and the commonwealth, the government. Both hands should be clean however...

 

[Fogdog]

The cumulative effect of decades of lobbying and outright bribery will have to be rolled back and many on Wall St. benefit from the current system. If you understand economics you know that trade, mass markets and especially the internet concentrate wealth and lead to an imbalance in society with today's economic and tax policies. Economies are ecosystems too and should be healthy from top to bottom if they are serving their purpose. It's not just America, money is a corrosive and pernicious force upon good government and policy globally, capitalism breeds corruption and that must be checked. Smith spoke of the hidden hand of markets, trade and free enterprise, he also mentioned the other hand, the one in yer face, law, regulation, taxes and the commonwealth, the government. Both hands should be clean however...

Translation: "I do not understand how US Democratic Party selects its presidential candidate"

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Translation: "I do not understand how the US Democratic Party selects its candidates."

I understand it can be pretty convoluted, perhaps you could explain the system they used in Iowa? These are the opinions of the pundits of which you speak, I just posted them.

 

[hanimmal]

The cumulative effect of decades of lobbying and outright bribery will have to be rolled back and many on Wall St. benefit from the current system. If you understand economics you know that trade, mass markets and especially the internet concentrate wealth and lead to an imbalance in society with today's economic and tax policies.

I am a big believer in individuals having a lot more control in their lives than that allows in America. I know many many examples of people growing up in the same household ending up in vastly different livelihoods when they are adults. Yes there is a very narrow bottleneck to become ultra wealthy, one that keeps people rich that were born rich, very little of which has anything to do with 'the system'.

Economies are ecosystems too and should be healthy from top to bottom if they are serving their purpose. It's not just America, money is a corrosive and pernicious force upon good government and policy globally, capitalism breeds corruption and that must be checked. Smith spoke of the hidden hand of markets, trade and free enterprise, he also mentioned the other hand, the one in yer face, law, regulation, taxes and the commonwealth, the government. Both hands should be clean however...

There is a lot of stuff wrapped up in this that I disagree with, some I do agree with too.

Any American can earn a good life, yes there are many things that come into play that people don't really have any control of (accidents and bad luck are a reality), some they do (getting into adulthood without a criminal record and at least a high school education), but it does get harder as laws have been historically bent to keep out anyone not in the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male demographic from easily earning a middle class livelihood.

Capitalism just mean letting people decide what they buy and sell with their own money, it doesn't breed corruption. That is on humanity.

 

[Fogdog]

I understand it can be pretty convoluted, perhaps you could explain the system they used in Iowa? These are the opinions of the pundits of which you speak, I just posted them.

Too much effort to explain the Iowa caucus. Just sit back and watch. You are in over your head on this. I never understood the Parlimentary system and don't really care to put the effort into it. The one time I stepped in it, I felt foolish for doing so because I was so wrong in what I originally said.

At the DNC, the process is explained well enough in the article you posted. Bloomberg cannot ever amass enough delegates to win the nomination outright. He might convince enough voters to choose him during the primary to have a faction that influences the second an later rounds. I don't see superdelegates, who are leaders in the Democratic Party ever voting for Bloomberg. Most likely, Biden will win in a contested Convention. Maybe Buttigieg. Sanders has no chance after the second round, when even the delegates who were bound to him will be released.

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

The USA is the most morally bankrupt society on the planet. The once proud nation has become the laughing point for the rest of world. You need only look at your leader to see that corruption has once again taken precedence over everything else. Shame on you.

Very true. The reason russia can mingle in our elections is because of how morally corrupt and complacent we've become and were as a people before they started.

 

[UncleBuck]

Very true. The reason russia can mingle in our elections is because of how morally corrupt and complacent we've become and were as a people before they started.

wait, you think we haven’t noticed you’re a phony pos yet?

Lol

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

Un-checked capitalsim is the reason we're in this place.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Too much effort to explain the Iowa caucus. Just sit back and watch. You are in over your head on this. I never understood the Parlimentary system and don't really care to put the effort into it. The one time I stepped in it, I felt foolish for doing so because I was so wrong in what I originally said.

At the DNC, the process is explained well enough in the article you posted. Bloomberg cannot ever amass enough delegates to win the nomination outright. He might convince enough voters to choose him during the primary to have a faction that influences the second an later rounds. I don't see superdelegates, who are leaders in the Democratic Party ever voting for Bloomberg. Most likely, Biden will win in a contested Convention. Maybe Buttigieg. Sanders has no chance after the second round, when even the delegates who were bound to him will be released.

I believed I mentioned I didn't think Bloomberg could pull it off and I figure I'm as well informed about the election system as most Americans (though that's not saying much).

If Bernie wins you will become a Bernie Borg, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile Foggy. If that don't work the collective will "re educate you"....

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

How dumb is it that we use an electoral college? So good that we should use it to pick nominees? Hmmm... Popular vote, give the people the power.

 

[UncleBuck]

How dumb is it that we use an electoral college? So good that we should use it to pick nominees? Hmmm... Popular vote, give the people the power.

we?

You’re not american

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

All these people and trolls splitting up the dems but trying to blame it on the Russians. They subvert Bernie while talking about voting Bloomberg and how its all about the lesser evil if we could only get that troublemaker Bernie out of the way. News flash, Bernie not in the way, the dems literally don't have a better candidate but they'd rather throw stones in a glass house and talk about how progressive Bloomberg is? Lmao

 

[UncleBuck]

All these people and trolls splitting up the dems but trying to blame it on the Russians. They subvert Bernie while talking about voting Bloomberg and how its all about the lesser evil if we could only get that troublemaker Bernie out of the way. News flash, Bernie not in the way, the dems literally don't have a better candidate but they'd rather throw stones in a glass house and talk about how progressive Bloomberg is? Lmao

you tried to trash the left while pretending to be part of the left

Your act is so shitty, tell your supervisor we want a better troll

 

[Fogdog]

I believed I mentioned I didn't think Bloomberg could pull it off and I figure I'm as well informed about the election system as most Americans (though that's not saying much).

If Bernie wins you will become a Bernie Borg, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile Foggy. If that don't work the collective will "re educate you"....

Not funny

Sanders is an authoritarian figure that will do harm.

 

[kkt3]

Another example of this is a show called “The Pharmacist”

 

[hanimmal]

All these people and trolls splitting up the dems but trying to blame it on the Russians. They subvert Bernie while talking about voting Bloomberg and how its all about the lesser evil if we could only get that troublemaker Bernie out of the way. News flash, Bernie not in the way, the dems literally don't have a better candidate but they'd rather throw stones in a glass house and talk about how progressive Bloomberg is? Lmao

So let's just ignore the 5 year military campaign that Russia has been waging in our democracy to get Bernie and Trump elected.

Very true. The reason russia can mingle in our elections is because of how morally corrupt and complacent we've become and were as a people before they started.

Ignoring the data tools that the internet made possible shows just how little you actually understand about what is taking place if you are serious.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I am a big believer in individuals having a lot more control in their lives than that allows in America. I know many many examples of people growing up in the same household ending up in vastly different livelihoods when they are adults. Yes there is a very narrow bottleneck to become ultra wealthy, one that keeps people rich that were born rich, very little of which has anything to do with 'the system'.

So do I, capitalism is a system in tune with human nature and it evolved with humans, we've be trading for a long time and some are better at saving and investing beans than others. The tax rate of a hedge fund manager didn't happen by chance, neither does the fact that the most profitable corps pay no tax in America, lobbying firms reap billions from K street for a reason and they've been at it for decades.

Any American can earn a good life, yes there are many things that come into play that people don't really have any control of (accidents and bad luck are a reality), some they do (getting into adulthood without a criminal record and at least a high school education), but it does get harder as laws have been historically bent to keep out anyone not in the Wealthy White Heterosexual Male demographic from easily earning a middle class livelihood.

Agreed, men are created equal, but only at the start, unless yer dad is rich. I'd advocate a return to a more balanced economic policy with a progressive taxation system and better care taken of the middle class and poor, if not you'll have more Trumps. Other countries do it better, but America has been in a decade long legislative deep freeze with Moscow Mitch, Trumpers like the status quo.

Capitalism just mean letting people decide what they buy and sell with their own money, it doesn't breed corruption. That is on humanity.

Agreed, but inequality does and that is the result of capitalism and human nature because one is really the other, we evolved with capitalism and we evolved with certain needs too, from need springs greed and humans don't like that instinctively either, its antisocial behavior.

Every country has corruption just like they have other crimes, the most successful socially and usually economically have it in check with good laws.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Not funny

Sanders is an authoritarian figure that will do harm.

Sander's policies would be moderated by congress, remember normal times and politics? The democratic party is split between moderates and the left and congress will be a mixed bag even with a democratic landslide. Half of the democrats would be as quick to impeach Bernie as the republicans would have done to Obama!

I'm not saying Sanders will win, but if he's got momentum after super tuesday and a good lead, he could pull it off. I like Bernie, but I would prefer anybody who can beat Trump and help carry the senate, I figure Bernie can do it, but it's up to the donkeys Foggy. If I had a dog in the fight I'd be barking a Helluva lot more than I am now!

 

[hanimmal]

I am not sure if you want me try to be realistic or just nod, but I suck at the just nodding.

So do I, capitalism is a system in tune with human nature and it evolved with humans, we've be trading for a long time and some are better at saving and investing beans than others. The tax rate of a hedge fund manager didn't happen by chance, neither does the fact that the most profitable corps pay now tax in America, lobbying firms reap billions from K street for a reason and they've been at it for decades.

Nuance is not popular, but it is important.
It is bullshit to say that 'the most profitable corps pay no tax in America'.

They pay payroll taxes, state taxes, taxes on goods and services they purchase, taxes on buildings, on and on. They can get out of paying Federal taxes mostly, but this is just the same troll that the right wingers like to do with immigrants. And it is equally untrue.

Now, I do think we should increase taxes on corporations, and close tax loopholes and havens, especially after Trump gave them an insane reduction.

Agreed, men are created equal, but only at the start, unless yer dad is rich. I'd advocate a return to a more balanced economic policy with a progressive taxation system and better care taken of the middle class and poor, if not you'll have more Trumps. Other countries do it better, but America has been in a decade long legislative deep freeze with Moscow Mitch, Trumpers like the status quo.

There is always going to be rich people, it's just a reality that some people are going to be super lucky and have kids born inside of that wealth bubble, in any society/economic system this is true. We need to get every community to the point that children brought up in them have every opportunity to achieve any level of success they work towards. And take care of people that are unable to do it themselves.

But you are right, until Mitch is gone, and people like him have less than 25 seats in the Senate, there is little that the Federal government can do to fix it.

Agreed, but inequality does and that is the result of capitalism and human nature because one is really the other, we evolved with capitalism and we evolved with certain needs too, from need springs greed and humans don't like that instinctively either, its antisocial behavior.

Every country has corruption just like they have other crimes, the most successful socially and usually economically have it in check with good laws.

Life is violent. But we are constantly getting better. I really am excited for the younger generations to take control, I think they are going to really be impressive.

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

So let's just ignore the 5 year military campaign that Russia has been waging in our democracy to get Bernie and Trump elected.

Ignoring the data tools that the internet made possible shows just how little you actually understand about what is taking place if you are serious.

No one's ignoring anything, but I would say you're not seeing the big picture. Sure Russia posted a bunch of ads, but you can only herd sheep. We've sold our values out to the almighty dollar and imo makes it very easy to be successful with a campaign employed by Russia. If we had any sense of accountability trump never gets elected. We've allowed the dog eat dog of capitalism, to blind us from the reality which some of us fight about. Its now more important to save face than seek truth, this is validated by the media and embraced by our culture. Its a recipe for disaster. I agree that Russia played a big part, but we were/are low hanging fruit.