K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

[mane2008]

yeah pretty much the same as any other pipe man, as long as your not smokin some dirty ass dry crumby shwiggity, the bowll will stay packed no matter how ya hit it. You dont gotta take the crackpipe stance to take a rip LOL. They got a shitload of nice inside out chillums online if your lookin into buyin a nice little piece to keep handy - its a hell of alot better then them metal one hitters that we used to use back in the day that looked like ciggarrettes - and the bowlpiece is usually full size too. I got me a couple sidecar bubblers and a sherlock as far as glass goes, but im savin up for the binger. Used to have a fatty Graffix piece, but they fell off the earth a while ago - i cant find a graffix bong online to save my life man. So im either gettin a Hurricane, a Tsunami(which is fuckin EXPENSIVE AS SHIT but its worth the money - probably the best glass bong your gonna find on the market), or a nice ROOR or SNOB piece with diffusers in it. Ill probably end up gettin it for xmas from the wifey, but im savin up just in case she decides to get me a fuckin dvd rack or some other dumb shit, lol.

oh ite, just looks like it would fall out

 

[Thundercat]

Well I havn't been around much at all for the last few days. I see you got your hydro conversion started I hope it continues to go well. It looks like its off to a good start. I havn't had the chance to really catch up on every thing you guys are posting to many pages a day lol.

So I thought I would run this by you guys, and honestly this thread has so much activity I thought it would get a good response. So king we had been talking about lights, I finally started to look for shops not toooo far away, and I found this light, that looks like it should be pretty nice as a blue spectrum. What do you guys think. It seems like a pretty good price. Eiko HPS 1000w [eiko-hps-1000w] - $69.95 : Summit Hydroponics, Leading the way with price and advice

 

[GypsyBush]

What do you guys think. It seems like a pretty good price. Eiko HPS 1000w [eiko-hps-1000w] - $69.95 : Summit Hydroponics, Leading the way with price and advice

Do you have a 1000 watt HPS ballast???

 

[Thundercat]

Ya I have a 1000w eye hortilux red bulb, and a 1000w magnetic hps ballast. I have been thinking about trying to get a blue spectrum hps or a MH conversion, or a dual arc bulb to veg with and use my current bulb to flower with.

 

[boricuaboi]

from either my local headshop or a friend of my pops blows glass every now n then. Hes pretty good at it too - i mean, not like proffesssissisisisional or anything like that, but hes gettin pretty good with color changers. Just spoons n shit like that, nothin advanced like a bubbler.

For more intricate pieces i go to a headshop thats like a mile down the road from me. But im orderin my bong from the net. Either me or the wifey is gonna order that shit in december, a few weeks before i harvest my diggity.

sounds dope man chicka chicka yeahhh! I broke my color changing one i may get me a new one for christmas

 

[Da Kine 420]

nice fuckin chillum u got thereGypsy, hope it smokes as good as it looks - im savin up for a hurricane bong man - them things just look fuckin titties in my book. Either that or a nice SNOB piece with a shitload of diffusers. Either way its gonna run me like 3-350 bucks, lol.

N thanks everyone. The only place that light could get into the box is through the bottom, but the bottom has floor covering it, so i think im good, leasti should be anyways.

N YEAH YEAH, I was hittin Gypsy up for advice true n00bstyle, n the styleof dro bucket thats bein used is taken from a page in WolfMan Zens growbook, but im doin it just a little bit different. Im not doin a micro grow, and instead of usin each bucket for 2-3 plants, im just usin 1 plant per bucket. 3 gallons should be plenty for each plant to reach their full potential. I know that people say that 5 gallons is perfect for hydro, but im lookin in there, and im lookin at alot of peoples root systems in their journals, and im thinkin that my shit is gona be able to pull it off here. theres plenty of room for my bitches to stretch their legs in there. i MIGHT get the rest of my boxes like 1 inch taller than this one (cuz i cant find any more of these ones - ive had it for years), but no more than 1 - or 2 inches cuz i want them all to grow the same size if container size is gonna come into play here.Ive bought 7 12" stones and 4 6" stones, along with two more of those double valve pumps, along with one more single valve pump, so ill have everything covered as far as that goes, so all i need to do now is wait for my WB, NS, n TL plants to get their shit together and fuckin develop a nice built up root system so i can transplant them without worrying about them fuckin bitches dying on me.


N yeah, im callin my plants bitches right now. Theyre harsh picky little snotnosed shits that wont make up their fuckinmind about what they wanna do. hence the name, lol.

-K1.

*edit* n gypsy, once again man, the nug is beautiful dude. wish i COULD share it with you, but your all the way out there in Northern Exposure mode, doin it up true guy-from-the-bounty paper towels- wrapper, roughneck style, LMAO. but i think if i put my nose in the air....wait.....nnnnn yep, i think i can smell your buds from all the way over here man. They make me wanna cry their so nice

i here ya on the new piece, but chck out this Extreme Vaporizer. it is sick and is 300. i am going to buy it for myself for x-mas if the old lady doesn't get it for me. i think it would do you better and you wouldn't have to worry about breaking the glass.

peace

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

yeah vapes are nice - i was checkin out a volcano, or one of those portable ones, n theyre nice n everything ( i used to have a vape like YEARS back, they just kinda have a wierd smell to them after a while, like rotten cambells tomato soup or some shit), but im a bong man, man, lol. The tsunami has diffusers, and filters in the slide, so the smoke is filtered to an extent, somethin like 75% of harmful carcinogens are taken and filtered out of the smoke (somethin like that), so thatll work for me. Im sure ill end up grabbin one, but for now, i need me a 2-3 footer. What stoners smoking utensil collection is complete without the Big fuckin bong??

N Thunder, i like that bulb, but thats a HPS bulb, arent you lookin for a bulb with a blue spectrum?? for a hps bulb thats a nice one for a good price though. It says that theres 25% more blue green n whatever other spectrum in this bulb than other hps bulbs, n thats cool, but its still gonna burn orange. Now, obviously you can grow from seed to weed usin the hps, so if you wanna grab that shit n lemme know how it works for a whole grow, i might just join you in just usin the hps bulbs for grows man. Im gettin annoyed with my Mh bulb personally - every day when i have that fucker put in, everything is all well n good, dont get me wrong, but it just seems like it aint doin shit for my babies but causing some yellowing. whenever i throw my hps into the tent though, within an hour or three i have like an inch of new growth, n they just seem to perk up in general whenever the orange light is burnin. I dunno man, dont pay any attention to me, im a little pissy right now about my plants.

My fuckin plants are yellowing. Two of my blu cheeses are yellowing up from the bottom up, and its pissin me off. The one thats in the dro setup is yellowing still, and i dont know why(it couldbe the PH cuz i cant stabalize it - i have my nute solution in there growbig plus bigbloom at 1/4 strength right now, plus im using ph raise n lower to get the ph right to 5., and my BC#2 is starting to yellow from the 1st set of true leaves up right now. If anybody has any ideas as to why the hell this is still happenin, please throw out some input, cuz the LAST thing i wanna have to do is start over from scratch again. Ill have everything in hydro by this coming tuesday. I stopped watering them daily (was just giving them a couple drops of water every day to keep them moist), and am now just stickin to once every 2-3 days like im supposed to, so i dont know - although, i do still mist them a little bit daily, which im stopping as of right now.

I also hit all of my developed plants (almost 2 wks or older) with a light nute watering today. Just a little bit of growbig+bigbloom at 1/4 strength, to maybe see if its because theyre deficient in somethin, and using both grow n bloom covers all the bases for NPK mostly. Plus i actually payed attention to the FF feeding schedule, and it actually says for the first 3 weeks that you feed with nutes, you should be using growbig and bigbloom, so ifigured what the hell, lol.

So, if things are still goin slightly downhill tomorrow, ill post up some pics for expert diagnoses, so hopefully i can get this fuckin shit taken care of once and for all so i can relax for a damn week before i gotta start worryin about the next thing, lol - but at least its keepin me busy n its causin me to read alot n try to learn more shit, so i guess its a good thing wrapped in the package of a pain in the ass

thats it for me for tonight, im done blabberin. U guys n gals take care, talk to youz tomorrow.

-K1.

 

[Da Kine 420]

ima check out those hurricanes, they look pretty sick. the one i wuld buy is 240 pounds. thats 450 or so. i guess it comes with a free herb grinder.

 

[boricuaboi]

i here ya on the new piece, but chck out this Extreme Vaporizer. it is sick and is 300. i am going to buy it for myself for x-mas if the old lady doesn't get it for me. i think it would do you better and you wouldn't have to worry about breaking the glass.

peace

clicking link now!!!
omg thats amazing I want one now!!!

 

[-=4:20=-Guy]

Looking good man way to save Corky. +rep

I cant believe the difference that hydro has made for my grow. Everything has been better than before from growth rate to overall health; I love it!

 

[Thundercat]

Just stoppin in to say hey KIng!!!

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

ok, so heres another update on how shits goin with everything, and yeh, ill be postin pics at the bottom of the post to let you guys checkkit.


So, yes and no, i have figured out a way i think to stop the yellowing, but no, i dont think i figured it out in time for at least one of the plants, and can only hope she recovers from the mods that ive made over the last 24 hours.

Ok, first well start with an update for this threads Matriarch, Corky.

Shes doin just fine, buds are gettin nice n swollen up, n although i didnt take any closeups, you can still see her chillin in the cut lookin purdy. She may look a little sexier though cuz i shaved her legs, lol - thats right - i lollipopped her. All the growth underneath the main tops were underdeveloped, yellowing, and havent made any progress since the first week of flowering. So last night i cut off everything and anything that wasnt contributing to the fatness of the main colas, and when i woke up this mornin, the buds were almost doubled in size and density. Im extremely satisfied with my descision on that one.

Now, for everyone else. Well tackle these one by one.

BlueCheese #1 - the oldest. I put her in dro 3 days ago, transplanting from soil, and its workin out, although there isnt much growth goin on up top, so much as there is in the rez - new roots are formin all over the place, so as long as im seein that, im cool with whats happenin up top. Once all the roots adapt and get themselves situated, im positive ill be rewarded with a nice growth spurt. So no complaints there. She was the first one to start yellowing, and she hasnt gotten any worse at all since i switched her to hydro. its almost like i froze the yellowing in time, n hopefully once the roots develop a little more, maybe i can wind the clock back a little bit in that respect.

BlueCheese#2 - the next to largest plant. I woke up this morning, and saw great progress with everything that was going on, except for this plant and one other. BC2 is yellowing, moreso than #1, and she just looks sickly, and as if shes gonna be completely yellow before the end of the day. But i did take preventative measures. I switched BC2 out to hydro today aswell. Hopefully the change of grow media will encourage healthy new growth, because with dro, i control the ph, i can monitor everything, and make adjustments accordingly, rather than sitting, feeding something into the soil, and waiting a couple days for a result, hydroponics are a little more immediate as far as results go. I could fix somethin tonight, and wake up in the morning, and shit can be 100 times better.

Bluecheese #3. Shes just a fuckin beast. Shes startin to have all kindsa new growth, not yellowing, and just all in all lookin like one bad ass bottom bitch to me. she gets me hard, n when u rub her leaves she gives off a sweet stanky pot smell that i cant wait to have in my tent all the time.

Twilight #1. Twilight #1 is a little wierd IMHO. Shes growin, dont get me wrong, and shes developing nicely - only shes yellowing a tiny bit on her bottom two leaves as well. Shes gonna be the next one to go into the drink. The cool thing about her though is, Shes got purple ass stems. like, seriously purple stems man. I think i might have gotten lucky and drawn a DEEP purple phenotype in this seed. Theyre supposed to all be purple, but the dude i talked to on the phone said it varies from ALL purple to just a couple purple pistils on the nugs. I think i scored with a nice purp female. Lets hope she dont go south man, cuz i would really love to grow her ass out.

Twilight #2. Shes doin fine too man. Shes still just a lil bitch, but shes forming her first set of pronged leaves as we speak, and any day now shes gonna blow up like the rest of the big girls. Also a light light purple stem, but i wont speculate on anything like that until she gets older.

Whiteberry. Whiteberry is doin good. She stretched a little bit from a couple days when i had my HPS light in there, and had to keep it kinda far away from her, so shes a little long in the leg, but her head is awesome, and startin to form nicely. I think shes gonna have purple hues to her too man. would love to have a blueberry dominant white widow plant man.

Northern Soul. Shes doin great man. Movin right along in leaf production, and working on her second set of pronged leaves, and only two or three days away from lookin like all my blue cheeses. Cant wait to see how she develops.

So theres the summary of how everything is goin in a nutshell. I took a pic of each of the plants so you can get an idea of what im talkin about, but i didnt do closeups cuz i hurt my knee playin with my kid earlier and cant get down n close up with them to take real real good pics. Just had to use zoom, lol.

pics:

a shot of the contents of the tent. The waterfarm in the corner has lettuceand radishes in it. Dont laugh man, its for my mamma

probably gonna toss the bucket up top so i can have the space in the tent. Now i cant decide which size bucket to go with, the left or the right. The right side one is the same involume, but its a little longer, allowing me to arrange shit a little differently in there to maximize space.

Anyways, heres BC#1

BC#2

BC#3

Twilight#1

Twilight#2

Whiteberry

Northern Soul

--N there we go. Everything is lookin so-so at the moment, half pretty fuckin good, n half could be better, but my ass dont quit, n i aint gonna stop tryin to fix my shit until the fuckin bitches are wilted n screamin for me to put them out of their misery.

O, n yeah, i think i figured out what the fuck is wrong with my plants. Its not the plants at all, its the fuckin TENT. the manufacturing company in hong kong that makes hydrohuts and like 4 other knock off brands of tents, ran off like a thousand faulty tents this year and the end of last year, spraying the vinyl with some type of FDA approved spray adhesive to hold the vinyl together, and to save money or some shit like that. The spray ended up being toxic to plants, once the heat from a growlight comes into play, and the tent gets to a certain temp, it heats up the vinyl, and activates the spray on the tent, causing some kind of "Off-Gassing" effect to occur, causing plants to yellow over time, and eventually die. Im taking preventative measures right now by keeping my tent completely open, along with my closet doors too, and since i cant vent out of my window because it would make things blatently obvious what im doin in my complex, im just venting into the room im growin in, and then opening the door every couple hours and letting shit air out. since i started doin that last night, it stopped the yellowing from getting worse, and i think that ive handled the problem. If it is in fact the tent thats doin this shit, im gonna slice the fuckin thing off of the frame, n bust out some panda film, n make myself a damn new tent with the frame i got and rock out with my cock out. Lets fuckin hope ive pinpointed the problem, and can continue the grow without any further bullshit.

-Im posting this in the other journal too, so if you go over there n see this post, its the eXACT same one, so you dont gotta read it all over again, lol.

thanks for readin guys n gals,

-K1.

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

oh yeah, WUDDUP TC, lol

 

[ROCafellaheads]

Damn bro, your set up has come a long way. Good shit

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

thanks yo

 

[boricuaboi]

ok, so heres another update on how shits goin with everything, and yeh, ill be postin pics at the bottom of the post to let you guys checkkit.


So, yes and no, i have figured out a way i think to stop the yellowing, but no, i dont think i figured it out in time for at least one of the plants, and can only hope she recovers from the mods that ive made over the last 24 hours.

Ok, first well start with an update for this threads matriarch, corky.

Shes doin just fine, buds are gettin nice n swollen up, n although i didnt take any closeups, you can still see her chillin in the cut lookin purdy. She may look a little sexier though cuz i shaved her legs, lol - thats right - i lollipopped her. All the growth underneath the main tops were underdeveloped, yellowing, and havent made any progress since the first week of flowering. So last night i cut off everything and anything that wasnt contributing to the fatness of the main colas, and when i woke up this mornin, the buds were almost doubled in size and density. Im extremely satisfied with my descision on that one.

Now, for everyone else. Well tackle these one by one.

Bluecheese #1 - the oldest. I put her in dro 3 days ago, transplanting from soil, and its workin out, although there isnt much growth goin on up top, so much as there is in the rez - new roots are formin all over the place, so as long as im seein that, im cool with whats happenin up top. Once all the roots adapt and get themselves situated, im positive ill be rewarded with a nice growth spurt. So no complaints there. She was the first one to start yellowing, and she hasnt gotten any worse at all since i switched her to hydro. Its almost like i froze the yellowing in time, n hopefully once the roots develop a little more, maybe i can wind the clock back a little bit in that respect.

Bluecheese#2 - the next to largest plant. I woke up this morning, and saw great progress with everything that was going on, except for this plant and one other. Bc2 is yellowing, moreso than #1, and she just looks sickly, and as if shes gonna be completely yellow before the end of the day. But i did take preventative measures. I switched bc2 out to hydro today aswell. Hopefully the change of grow media will encourage healthy new growth, because with dro, i control the ph, i can monitor everything, and make adjustments accordingly, rather than sitting, feeding something into the soil, and waiting a couple days for a result, hydroponics are a little more immediate as far as results go. I could fix somethin tonight, and wake up in the morning, and shit can be 100 times better.

Bluecheese #3. Shes just a fuckin beast. Shes startin to have all kindsa new growth, not yellowing, and just all in all lookin like one bad ass bottom bitch to me. She gets me hard, n when u rub her leaves she gives off a sweet stanky pot smell that i cant wait to have in my tent all the time.

Twilight #1. Twilight #1 is a little wierd imho. Shes growin, dont get me wrong, and shes developing nicely - only shes yellowing a tiny bit on her bottom two leaves as well. Shes gonna be the next one to go into the drink. The cool thing about her though is, shes got purple ass stems. Like, seriously purple stems man. I think i might have gotten lucky and drawn a deep purple phenotype in this seed. Theyre supposed to all be purple, but the dude i talked to on the phone said it varies from all purple to just a couple purple pistils on the nugs. I think i scored with a nice purp female. Lets hope she dont go south man, cuz i would really love to grow her ass out.

Twilight #2. Shes doin fine too man. Shes still just a lil bitch, but shes forming her first set of pronged leaves as we speak, and any day now shes gonna blow up like the rest of the big girls. Also a light light purple stem, but i wont speculate on anything like that until she gets older.

Whiteberry. Whiteberry is doin good. She stretched a little bit from a couple days when i had my hps light in there, and had to keep it kinda far away from her, so shes a little long in the leg, but her head is awesome, and startin to form nicely. I think shes gonna have purple hues to her too man. Would love to have a blueberry dominant white widow plant man. :d

northern soul. Shes doin great man. Movin right along in leaf production, and working on her second set of pronged leaves, and only two or three days away from lookin like all my blue cheeses. Cant wait to see how she develops.

So theres the summary of how everything is goin in a nutshell. I took a pic of each of the plants so you can get an idea of what im talkin about, but i didnt do closeups cuz i hurt my knee playin with my kid earlier and cant get down n close up with them to take real real good pics. Just had to use zoom, lol.

Pics:

A shot of the contents of the tent. The waterfarm in the corner has lettuceand radishes in it. Dont laugh man, its for my mamma

probably gonna toss the bucket up top so i can have the space in the tent. Now i cant decide which size bucket to go with, the left or the right. The right side one is the same involume, but its a little longer, allowing me to arrange shit a little differently in there to maximize space.

Anyways, heres bc#1

bc#2

bc#3

twilight#1

twilight#2

whiteberry

northern soul

--n there we go. Everything is lookin so-so at the moment, half pretty fuckin good, n half could be better, but my ass dont quit, n i aint gonna stop tryin to fix my shit until the fuckin bitches are wilted n screamin for me to put them out of their misery.

O, n yeah, i think i figured out what the fuck is wrong with my plants. Its not the plants at all, its the fuckin tent. The manufacturing company in hong kong that makes hydrohuts and like 4 other knock off brands of tents, ran off like a thousand faulty tents this year and the end of last year, spraying the vinyl with some type of fda approved spray adhesive to hold the vinyl together, and to save money or some shit like that. The spray ended up being toxic to plants, once the heat from a growlight comes into play, and the tent gets to a certain temp, it heats up the vinyl, and activates the spray on the tent, causing some kind of "off-gassing" effect to occur, causing plants to yellow over time, and eventually die. Im taking preventative measures right now by keeping my tent completely open, along with my closet doors too, and since i cant vent out of my window because it would make things blatently obvious what im doin in my complex, im just venting into the room im growin in, and then opening the door every couple hours and letting shit air out. Since i started doin that last night, it stopped the yellowing from getting worse, and i think that ive handled the problem. If it is in fact the tent thats doin this shit, im gonna slice the fuckin thing off of the frame, n bust out some panda film, n make myself a damn new tent with the frame i got and rock out with my cock out. Lets fuckin hope ive pinpointed the problem, and can continue the grow without any further bullshit.

-im posting this in the other journal too, so if you go over there n see this post, its the exact same one, so you dont gotta read it all over again, lol.

Thanks for readin guys n gals,

-k1.

you just keep coming with more dont yo lol those are beautiful seedling growing strong!
Are these gonna be scrog?

 

[Thundercat]

Lookin good King, glad you figured out about that offgasing, I forgot about it till you mentioned it in that pm. Hopfully they'll recove well, and it doesn't look like it effected all of them to bad. That might be part of why the smaller ones havn't grown much really. That adhesive was prolly FDA approved to stop stealth growing, lol.

 

[Thundercat]

happy halloween everybody!!!!

 

[K1Ng5p4d3]

Thanks BB, n Yeh thunder, its pissin me off cuz i still dont know for sure, lol. I dont know yet if I did somethin wrong to cause the yellowing, or if its the tent itself, or what, but i knowthat nothing is getting any worse at all, n thats a good thing. As for BC#2 that i busted into the dro bucket, i dont know whats goin on with her - shes fuckin still all yellowed up, but growth has stopped.

The growth has stopped on both of my dro plants. I think mostly its because of the recent transplant into water, and they need time to let their roots form n all that, so im not stressin anything. Ive never grown in dro before, so i dont know how shock or stress works on the plants growing this way.

if anyone thats growin in dro can lemme know what happens when a plant goes into shock and how long it takes to recover, i would really appreciate that shit. Either way, i figure as long as nothin is getting worse, im in the black, and good to go. id rather have no progress at all than bad progress. Ill just give the roots some time to form, and i think ill be all good.

 

[GypsyBush]

happy halloween everybody!!!!

Happy..!!!

The growth has stopped on both of my dro plants. I think mostly its because of the recent transplant into water, and they need time to let their roots form n all that, so im not stressin anything. Ive never grown in dro before, so i dont know how shock or stress works on the plants growing this way.

I can't see anything wrong really...

It's gonna bounce back...

It went from soil to water... changes everything... the roots need to adapt...

Just be patient and make sure the pH is in the right range...

She'll pull through...

if anyone thats growin in dro can lemme know what happens when a plant goes into shock and how long it takes to recover, i would really appreciate that shit. Either way, i figure as long as nothin is getting worse, im in the black, and good to go. id rather have no progress at all than bad progress. Ill just give the roots some time to form, and i think ill be all good.

Most people start hydro in hydro... just relax K1NG...

Cause, every little thing .. is gonna be alright...

Singing, Don't worry.. about a thing... ...

Cheers bro...