DIY with Quantum Boards

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RamenToppings

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Humple said:
This is also an excellent idea! And it means you still have light for the plants if one board goes out (not something that's likely to happen, but insurance is always nice to have).
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That’s a good point, the insurance is nice to have, I think doing this or 1 board and then doing the same for a veg tent would be really good.
 
ilovereggae

ilovereggae

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RamenToppings said:
Did you use your qbs at low intensity or fluorescents for the seedling phase?
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I have been using a HLG65 for veg for the last few years, and that is still too intense for tiny plants in my experience. The HLG65 isn't dimmable so I wind up having to shade my seedlings or clones that are still in the humidity dome, under giant fan leaves of a bigger plant or create some type of shade for them. If you get a dimmable driver with an external potentiometer it will solve this problem for you.

I'm in the process of upgrading my main veg area to 2 boards @ 40w each on a 80W driver, but am also making a smaller area for clones and seedlings that is using 4 of the EB strips on a 40W driver.

Also if no one has warned you yet, HLG QB's are addicting. Side effects may include dreaming about covering your ceiling in diodes.
 
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ilovereggae said:
I have been using a HLG65 for veg for the last few years, and that is still too intense for tiny plants in my experience. The HLG65 isn't dimmable so I wind up having to shade my seedlings or clones that are still in the humidity dome, under giant fan leaves of a bigger plant or create some type of shade for them. If you get a dimmable driver with an external potentiometer it will solve this problem for you.

I'm in the process of upgrading my main veg area to 2 boards @ 40w each on a 80W driver, but am also making a smaller area for clones and seedlings that is using 4 of the EB strips on a 40W driver.

Also if no one has warned you yet, HLG QB's are addicting. Side effects may include dreaming about covering your ceiling in diodes.
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And not staring at them hopefully
 
pop22

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China doesn't give a shit if you have a patent or not. They steal from any company who has a successful product, even steal from each other. Half of the shit on ebay and Amazon are Chinese counterfeits. And they get away with it because there is no legal recourse. And NOT ONE LED product has UL certification, they just put stickers on and claim they are.


Gond00s said:
@lukio and couldn't hlg just setup a patent in china because they did in the us I think its more on them but if someone patented it first just sol
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pop22

pop22

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But they are using HLG's product name! They can call them whatever they want but using another company's product name/brand is theft of intellectual property. Quantum Board is HLG's property. Buying these things is like buying fake Rolex watches from the trunk of some shady character's car trunk. A thief is a thief is a thief!


Strudelheim said:
What exactly was ripped off? Just curious, as far as I know in a capitalist system, one company leads the way with innovation, will be followed by others copying that design and tech, and competing with it, and then bringing the price down across the board. It is samsung who made an efficient diode. Therafter its just putting them on a board, and adding a driver and connecting the whole system. It would be silly to think that HLG, will be only company in all of future human history making Samsung Diode LED boards and beyond.
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boybelue

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pop22 said:
But they are using HLG's product name! They can call them whatever they want but using another company's product name/brand is theft of intellectual property. Quantum Board is HLG's property. Buying these things is like buying fake Rolex watches from the trunk of some shady character's car trunk. A thief is a thief is a thief!
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Question is did HLG get the product name patented or copy righted in China? Patents are geographical
 
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hillbill

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Patent process takes time and resources that can be very difficult for startups and the tech is progressing so fast that a specific use patent could be obsolete and useless. Big corporations have R&D to work around also. Look at all the Murican corporations and individuals that are copying light designs.

Walmart has been having stuff they sell copied in other countries and then made under one of their “store brands” which replace original Murican products with their own branded Chinese products. Walmart is a huge driver to offshoring of production, real bastards.
 
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boybelue

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hillbill said:
Patent process takes time and resources that can be very difficult for startups and the tech is progressing so fast that a specific use patent could be obsolete and useless. Big corporations have R&D to work around also. Look at all the Murican corporations and individuals that are copying light designs.

Walmart has been having stuff they sell copied in other countries and then made under one of their “store brands” which replace original Murican products with their own branded Chinese products. Walmart is a huge driver to offshoring of production, real bastards.
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That’s the problem for the little man, patents are so damn expensive, with lawyer fees and everything else they need to sell there product to gain some capital and by that time they may be screwed.
 
Gond00s

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lukio said:
sorry man, everyone (maybe jus hybrid) was pissing me off yesterday and i was probs a lil harsh. would be good to keep the chinese rip off bastards in their own thread tho
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I get that i don’t personally care but if people wanna grow with them and if their tight in money I’m going to prob still help them the best I can I give all options not just one like hybrid he shills for amare so hard
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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Strudelheim said:
and whats up with this official release statement direct from samsung... This 3.10 Micro Moles talk?

news.samsung.com

Samsung Sets New Photon Efficacy Level in White LED Packages for Indoor Farms

High photon efficacy allows more light to reach plants for healthier growth and enables indoor farms to save on energy costs
news.samsung.com news.samsung.com
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Exactly what GreenGenes was saying. The H uses micromoles as an output measurement for the "Horticultural Community", while the B uses Lumens.
 
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