First grow in any form! Chime in if you feel you can help.

Destroyer of chairs

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Yeah new growth lol fine, but with a closer look you do see same patterns as the leaves further down but very little. So maybe u are right that ec is too low, and they borrow from leaves further down? On my next nutrient change I'm gonna take ur advice and try go higher in ec.

I don't take EC daily anymore, as it sits about the same lvl all the time. I try measure water lvl and it seems they are not drinking much.
 

Alphonso OG

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I struggled so much with DWC. You can think your doing every thing right esp with a Diy RDWC. There is always someting lurking. I lost months of hardwork and countless hours of sleep and brewed compost tea lmao. I took all of what I've learned and switched to coco and havent looked back since!
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Destroyer of chairs

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Changed buckets and put in 13L.

Room 24.9c
RH 54%
Water: 15c (tap is ice cold couldn't wait any longer)

#1
PH 5.6
EC 0.60
1/4 base nutes (strength)
1/2 calmag
2/1 hydroguard

#2
PH 5.6
EC 0.59
1/4 base nutes
1/2 cal
3 PPM poolshock

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#2 bottom
 

WillieP

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Glad you chose to up your EC, I hope that helps your plants.
I would also praise your choice to run one container sterile and the other 'live', that will be a cool experiment to see if there is any differences.
Keep us posted on the roots.

WillieP
 

Destroyer of chairs

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Yeah figured I'll give it a shot.
Will do! Can throw in some pics tonight or early tomorrow. The one not in sterile had roots formed earlier than the other but also had more darkening of the roots. Hoping 2x dose of hydroguard will help it out.

I am also very tempted to try the mycorrhizal product I bought even if its made for soil. It doesn't contain any nutrients only 20+ different strains of microorganisms so I don't see how it can hurt. But I wanna see that they handle new EC and that sterile project goes well first, just in case something horrible happen and it dies.

I was sure the one in sterile was gonna die when I checked on them just couple hours after res change yesterday.
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But not so sure anymore. Looking a bit better when I woke up today.
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WillieP

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Yeah figured I'll give it a shot.
Will do! Can throw in some pics tonight or early tomorrow. The one not in sterile had roots formed earlier than the other but also had more darkening of the roots. Hoping 2x dose of hydroguard will help it out.

I am also very tempted to try the mycorrhizal product I bought even if its made for soil. It doesn't contain any nutrients only 20+ different strains of microorganisms so I don't see how it can hurt. But I wanna see that they handle new EC and that sterile project goes well first, just in case something horrible happen and it dies.

I was sure the one in sterile was gonna die when I checked on them just couple hours after res change yesterday.
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But not so sure anymore. Looking a bit better when I woke up today.
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Sorry Destroyer, I can't be any help with the mycorrhizal, I'm totally clueless on that one, I have never used it.

The sterile girl did look like she was taking a dive there for a bit. I hope she snaps out of it.

There is quite the learning curve to all this hydro jazz, I believe you will get it figured out with a little time and patience.

WillieP
 

Destroyer of chairs

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It sure did. She is fully upright again now.

There is indeed learning curve! But Ill rather struggle early and learn alot than having hickups late and don't know what to do, when alot more time has been invested.
 

Alphonso OG

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RH 55%
Room 25c
Water 18c

#1
PH 5.8
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#2
PH 6.0
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I only see 1 air line each. What size air pump are you using?
The daily pic of the two.
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Just for insurance plant one in Coco for a back up like did. I struggled and spent so $$$ on Sterile products, Good bennies, and bigger air pumps etc. It seemed things got worse after water changes Esp bery cold water as you mentioned earlier. I built single buckets and 2 dwc systems with not a SINGLE harvest
I was calling it quits until the little pot in the corner came through
 

Destroyer of chairs

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I only see 1 air line each. What size air pump are you using?
I had to check and seems like I got it wrong earlier in the thread. Its a 1000L/H pump(not 1400) supplying the two buckets with one airstone in each(that's 8L min to each) . Though should mention that it has 8 lines out, so I'm using 6 t's total to make it into 2 stronger ones.

I already ordered 140L coco and 100L perlite. I'm def gonna try out coco in hempy buckets after our talk. But yeah keep the positive vibes and tips about coco coming! I wanted to transfer one of them to the coco or maybe use a clone but don't know what would be best. Is it even possible to transplant from dwc to a solid medium?
 

WillieP

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RH 55%
Room 25c
Water 18c

#1
PH 5.8
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#2
PH 6.0
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Your root mass just seems small to me for the size and age of your plants. You hear a lot of guys talk about that the health of the roots is directly proportional to the health of the plant.
This is a pic of the way I start my seedling out, before I transfer them to their permanent home.

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and a pic of the roots.

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This isn't the bubble tech that you are using, but pretty close. Keep the roots wet with lots of oxygenated nutrients.
This just has one scrub 360 degree sprayer head on a timed pump. 1 Min ON, 5 Min OFF.
(Not trying to sound like 'Oh look how big my roots are', just was showing you an example.)

Something seems off with your grow, but by the numbers, every thing seem spot on. :wall:

The only thing that I can think of would be your lighting, and that's just grasping at straws.
Have you tried taking a light reading? You can download an app for your phone. Won't be totally accurate, but will give you an idea. 15 cm up or down can make a big difference.

The Hempy buckets may be a good idea to get this first grow in the record books as a WIN.
I have never ran one, but I did read on them a bunch when deciding what type of system I wanted, they seem like a solid system.

Another system that you might like is call the 'waterfarm', a couple of my friends on RIU run that system, and have some amazing results.
They both have grow journal. @Dr.Amber Trichome @Laughing Grass
Doc Amber just pulled 20 oz. (567 g) of one Blue Dream plant.

Wish I could be more help, Good Luck.
WillieP
 

Alphonso OG

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I had to check and seems like I got it wrong earlier in the thread. Its a 1000L/H pump(not 1400) supplying the two buckets with one airstone in each(that's 8L min to each) . Though should mention that it has 8 lines out, so I'm using 6 t's total to make it into 2 stronger ones.

I already ordered 140L coco and 100L perlite. I'm def gonna try out coco in hempy buckets after our talk. But yeah keep the positive vibes and tips about coco coming! I wanted to transfer one of them to the coco or maybe use a clone but don't know what would be best. Is it even possible to transplant from dwc to a solid medium?
I had to check and seems like I got it wrong earlier in the thread. Its a 1000L/H pump(not 1400) supplying the two buckets with one airstone in each(that's 8L min to each) . Though should mention that it has 8 lines out, so I'm using 6 t's total to make it into 2 stronger ones.

I already ordered 140L coco and 100L perlite. I'm def gonna try out coco in hempy buckets after our talk. But yeah keep the positive vibes and tips about coco coming! I wanted to transfer one of them to the coco or maybe use a clone but don't know what would be best. Is it even possible to transplant from dwc to a solid medium?
Yes you can! I transfered my Dwc plants to coco for flowering before I went full Coco.
 

Destroyer of chairs

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Your root mass just seems small to me for the size and age of your plants. You hear a lot of guys talk about that the health of the roots is directly proportional to the health of the plant.
This is a pic of the way I start my seedling out, before I transfer them to their permanent home.

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and a pic of the roots.

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This isn't the bubble tech that you are using, but pretty close. Keep the roots wet with lots of oxygenated nutrients.
This just has one scrub 360 degree sprayer head on a timed pump. 1 Min ON, 5 Min OFF.
(Not trying to sound like 'Oh look how big my roots are', just was showing you an example.)

Something seems off with your grow, but by the numbers, every thing seem spot on. :wall:

The only thing that I can think of would be your lighting, and that's just grasping at straws.
Have you tried taking a light reading? You can download an app for your phone. Won't be totally accurate, but will give you an idea. 15 cm up or down can make a big difference.

The Hempy buckets may be a good idea to get this first grow in the record books as a WIN.
I have never ran one, but I did read on them a bunch when deciding what type of system I wanted, they seem like a solid system.

Another system that you might like is call the 'waterfarm', a couple of my friends on RIU run that system, and have some amazing results.
They both have grow journal. @Dr.Amber Trichome @Laughing Grass
Doc Amber just pulled 20 oz. (567 g) of one Blue Dream plant.

Wish I could be more help, Good Luck.
WillieP
I totally agree with u. The roots grew alot the first weeks but kinda stopped at the same time they lost their bright white colour. Can't be a coincidence. But it's also kinda hard to tell if they are growing cause its a root ball now and I can't tell by length anymore.

That said ur technique is better for vigorous roots, isn't it? Hah I didn't take it as showing off, no worries :)

Will that app even work for leds? Yeah I also think lightning may be part of the problem, but I don't wanna move it closer cause leaves seems kinda papery and dry. But guess it may not be related to light burn. But I'm going to put then under 240w (actual power draw) QB's soon. Guess I'll find out that part then.

Yeah that is exactly what I was thinking, wanna get to harvest on first run. And also I want my mother(s) to grow in coco so I don't have to start all over in case of a long power outage. Hempy buckets seem like a idiot proof system, just what I need! :'D

Wow that's hell of a harvest nice. But isn't it just rdwc?
Gonna wait with the rdwc build for a future grow when I have the money and experience to do it better(chiller is freakin expensive).

Always happy to get some input :)
 
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