Harvest results for the 660W Alibaba quantum board for $504

[jonnynobody]

I flowered a hash plant lady directly under this board rated at 660W. It was my mother plant I had going for about 8 months. I decided to flower it because I am bringing new genetics into the garden and there's only so much space. The flowers the light produced have a rock hard density, are covered in trichomes, and have a beautiful purple accent that was quite magnificent to look at under the light itself. Here are a few pictures of the plant in the final days before harvesting.





As you can see the light was strong enough to bleach a good chunk of the foliage prior to harvest. The flowers even before drying were absolutely rock hard. I'm sold on LED quantum board technology. As a matter of fact I decided to install another 450W quantum board parallel to the 660W board I flowered the above pictured plant with to really illuminate the rear of the canopy in an effort to prevent light drop off. Essentially I want the buds on the edges just as high quality as the buds in the center of the canopy. Adding the extra board should solve that problem creating an immense amount of illumination wall to wall throughout the rear of the canopy.

Here's a pic of both boards up for the next cycle. Presently I'm just vegging the plants you see in the photo @50% power on both boards. I ran them at full power for 2 days and it started causing shriveling of new flower sites. It's just too much light without a co2 burner. Planning to add the burner after this next cycle. I'm vegging them for another 9 days to let them bush out a bit more. Then the rest of the gang in my other nurseries will join the plants you see in the following photo, and I will increase power to 100%. I run the HID's at 75% for the first week of 12/12 to allow the plants acclimate to the new intense lighting. If I run them at 100% immediately it shocks the plants and the foliage droops for a week until it rebounds and acclimates. Reducing power for the first week prevents that issue from occurring. Gotta be gentle with you ladies




The boards do a fantastic job. I can't imagine what more I could ask for. What do y'all think? Give it to me raw and uncut - wait, that sounds dirty

 

[Gwhiliker]

I flowered a hash plant lady directly under this board rated at 660W. It was my mother plant I had going for about 8 months. I decided to flower it because I am bringing new genetics into the garden and there's only so much space. The flowers the light produced have a rock hard density, are covered in trichomes, and have a beautiful purple accent that was quite magnificent to look at under the light itself. Here are a few pictures of the plant in the final days before harvesting.

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As you can see the light was strong enough to bleach a good chunk of the foliage prior to harvest. The flowers even before drying were absolutely rock hard. I'm sold on LED quantum board technology. As a matter of fact I decided to install another 450W quantum board parallel to the 660W board I flowered the above pictured plant with to really illuminate the rear of the canopy in an effort to prevent light drop off. Essentially I want the buds on the edges just as high quality as the buds in the center of the canopy. Adding the extra board should solve that problem creating an immense amount of illumination wall to wall throughout the rear of the canopy.

Here's a pic of both boards up for the next cycle. Presently I'm just vegging the plants you see in the photo @50% power on both boards. I ran them at full power for 2 days and it started causing shriveling of new flower sites. It's just too much light without a co2 burner. Planning to add the burner after this next cycle. I'm vegging them for another 9 days to let them bush out a bit more. Then the rest of the gang in my other nurseries will join the plants you see in the following photo, and I will increase power to 100%. I run the HID's at 75% for the first week of 12/12 to allow the plants acclimate to the new intense lighting. If I run them at 100% immediately it shocks the plants and the foliage droops for a week until it rebounds and acclimates. Reducing power for the first week prevents that issue from occurring. Gotta be gentle with you ladies

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The boards do a fantastic job. I can't imagine what more I could ask for. What do y'all think? Give it to me raw and uncut - wait, that sounds dirty

I've got a bava quantum board and some meijiu strip lights... I'm gonna eventually do a side by side with compatible american companies to hopefully help with my arguement that for a non commercial use the Alibaba leds really reign supreme for the price

 

[bk78]

Alibaba leds really reign supreme for the price

I wouldn't say reign supreme, but grow equally as well definitely. The only argument I really see is if something fucks up and you need warranty is all.

 

[Gwhiliker]

I wouldn't say reign supreme, but grow equally as well definitely. The only argument I really see is if something fucks up and you need warranty is all.

i say reign supreme for the 200-1000$ price difference you give up for a bit of time dealing with customer service, you use meijiu so I'm sure you know linda is on top of her shit with customer service if the issue ever arises! just takes for fucking ever for shipping. nice thing with most of these leds though is no moving parts so nothing tends to break. maybe a melted diode here or there but as far as what I've read there doesn't seem to be any issues of that with meijiu at least

 

[bk78]

i say reign supreme for the 200-1000$ price difference you give up for a bit of time dealing with customer service, you use meijiu so I'm sure you know linda is on top of her shit with customer service if the issue ever arises! just takes for fucking ever for shipping. nice thing with most of these leds though is no moving parts so nothing tends to break. maybe a melted diode here or there but as far as what I've read there doesn't seem to be any issues of that with meijiu at least

Never heard of Linda haha. Rita you mean?

 

[Gwhiliker]

Never heard of Linda haha. Rita you mean?

oh they haven't upgraded you to the linda package yet? she sends selfies with every 5 lights

 

[bk78]

oh they haven't upgraded you to the linda package yet? she sends selfies with every 5 lights

Been dealing with Rita since early 2019, also have gotten selfies since then too. You gotta step up your game if you only get a selfie every 5 buys dude.

 

[Gwhiliker]

Been dealing with Rita since early 2019, also have gotten selfies since then too. You gotta step up your game if you only get a selfie every 5 buys dude.

I about died when I got mine! But that was my first order. I might check out the upgraded 3.0 lights soon but pretty satisfied with the 2.7s right now

 

[bk78]

I about died when I got mine! But that was my first order. I might check out the upgraded 3.0 lights soon but pretty satisfied with the 2.7s right now

Yeah I’m set for the next few years over here. 4 240 kits,1 320 kit and 2 mj650’s.

Next time I need lights there should be some pretty good upgrades I’m hoping.

 

[jonnynobody]

I've got a bava quantum board and some meijiu strip lights... I'm gonna eventually do a side by side with compatible american companies to hopefully help with my arguement that for a non commercial use the Alibaba leds really reign supreme for the price

Judging by my results I would say they're fantastic for commercial applications. If you had to buy 20 of them you're talking $10k. That's not even factoring in a volume discount the factory would surely offer. If an equivalent unit in the 660w range from one of the North American based manufacturers were chosen the price range I've seen is in the neighborhood of $1100-$1300. I'll be generous and go with the lower figure for this example. $1100 x 20 =$22,000. An individual could buy 40 of the China based boards for the same price of 20 of the US based boards. The only benefit I can really see going with a US based manufacturer is better customer service in the event of an equipment malfunction. You could receive a replacement quicker. If I ordered my lights from a China based manufacturer I would just order 2 or 3 extras to keep on hand in the event of an equipment malfunction. Swap out the board and send it back to China for replacement.

I just don't want a new grower (this is where I started learning 12 years ago) to read these LED forums and think they have to fork over over $1k for a single light to grow great dope. That is a falsehood, and my most recent harvest results unequivocally prove my point.

 

[jonnynobody]

I wouldn't say reign supreme, but grow equally as well definitely. The only argument I really see is if something fucks up and you need warranty is all.

Agreed. The warranty replacement issue is a valid concern. However, at double the price for an equivalent board from a US based manufacturer why not just order 2 and keep 1 as a backup? Or hell, run both of them and grow twice the amount of pot as the guy that bought a single US based board for twice the price. There's more than 1 way to skin this cat

 

[jonnynobody]

i say reign supreme for the 200-1000$ price difference you give up for a bit of time dealing with customer service, you use meijiu so I'm sure you know linda is on top of her shit with customer service if the issue ever arises! just takes for fucking ever for shipping. nice thing with most of these leds though is no moving parts so nothing tends to break. maybe a melted diode here or there but as far as what I've read there doesn't seem to be any issues of that with meijiu at least

My older brother sold cars back in the day. He knows a lot about bullshit and people. It's the nature of the business When I went shopping for my first nice car I was very impressed with the Kia / Hyundai 10 year warranty on the power train and 5 years on the bumper to bumper. As soon as I mentioned the H word to my brother the look of "what the fuck" washed over his face as his head began shaking back and forth. He explained that Kia's and Hyundai's are complete trash from inception to manufacturer. The company moves those pieces of trash because they slap a long term warranty on it to convince stupid bottom feeder consumers with shitty credit (Kia's bread and butter) that their cars must be built to the highest standards. Consumers are stupid and easily manipulated. My brother then explained why I should buy a Toyota, Honda, or a Nissan. He explained while the warranty may not be as good as Kia / Hyundai the car will last longer, be built better, and have a higher resale for the aforementioned reasons. Needless to say I bought a Toyota and couldn't be happier with my choice.

Buy the product that does the job the best, will last the longest, and gives you the most value for your money spent. It's really no more complicated than that, but slick salesman are great bullshitters

Edit: My personal feeling is the US based manufacturer's are significantly overcharging for their boards. Their selling point is that they are US based and they will get a replacement overnight shipped to you in the event of a failure under warranty. Again, why not just do business with a China based manufacturer and get twice the volume of lights for the same amount of money spent with a US based manufacturer? For me this is simply about getting the most value for my money spent and not paying more for something than it's worth.

 

[Gwhiliker]

Judging by my results I would say they're fantastic for commercial applications. If you had to buy 20 of them you're talking $10k. That's not even factoring in a volume discount the factory would surely offer. If an equivalent unit in the 660w range from one of the North American based manufacturers were chosen the price range I've seen is in the neighborhood of $1100-$1300. I'll be generous and go with the lower figure for this example. $1100 x 20 =$22,000. An individual could buy 40 of the China based boards for the same price of 20 of the US based boards. The only benefit I can really see going with a US based manufacturer is better customer service in the event of an equipment malfunction. You could receive a replacement quicker. If I ordered my lights from a China based manufacturer I would just order 2 or 3 extras to keep on hand in the event of an equipment malfunction. Swap out the board and send it back to China for replacement.

I just don't want a new grower (this is where I started learning 12 years ago) to read these LED forums and think they have to fork over over $1k for a single light to grow great dope. That is a falsehood, and my most recent harvest results unequivocally prove my point.

they don't meet American electrical testing standards nor have decent warranty which is why I say they are not suited for commercial applications. you wouldn't even be able to insure them

 

[Gwhiliker]

My older brother sold cars back in the day. He knows a lot about bullshit and people. It's the nature of the business When I went shopping for my first nice car I was very impressed with the Kia / Hyundai 10 year warranty on the power train and 5 years on the bumper to bumper. As soon as I mentioned the H word to my brother the look of "what the fuck" washed over his face as his head began shaking back and forth. He explained that Kia's and Hyundai's are complete trash from inception to manufacturer. The company moves those pieces of trash because they slap a long term warranty on it to convince stupid bottom feeder consumers with shitty credit (Kia's bread and butter) that their cars must be built to the highest standards. Consumers are stupid and easily manipulated. My brother then explained why I should buy a Toyota, Honda, or a Nissan. He explained while the warranty may not be as good as Kia / Hyundai the car will last longer, be built better, and have a higher resale for the aforementioned reasons. Needless to say I bought a Toyota and couldn't be happier with my choice.

Buy the product that does the job the best, will last the longest, and gives you the most value for your money spent. It's really no more complicated than that, but slick salesman are great bullshitters

Edit: My personal feeling is the US based manufacturer's are significantly overcharging for their boards. Their selling point is that they are US based and they will get a replacement overnight shipped to you in the event of a failure under warranty. Again, why not just do business with a China based manufacturer and get twice the volume of lights for the same amount of money spent with a US based manufacturer? For me this is simply about getting the most value for my money spent and not paying more for something than it's worth.

don't get me wrong I'm all for the Chinese boards/bars but there are just some things they lack

 

[bk78]

don't get me wrong I'm all for the Chinese boards/bars but there are just some things they lack

Do tell.

 

[Gwhiliker]

Do tell.

I just did in the above post

 

[bk78]

I just did in the above post

So they only lack American electric certs? As for warranties what has been your issue with them?

 

[jonnynobody]

they don't meet American electrical testing standards nor have decent warranty which is why I say they are not suited for commercial applications. you wouldn't even be able to insure them

I believe my unit is UL listed. I will double check and report back. I would suggest only purchasing from a vendor whose products are UL listed regardless of application. My warranty is 5 years on the unit I purchased.

 

[Gwhiliker]

I'll clarify there are things they are lacking keeping them from being a practical choice for commercial applications. Now if they could get past the electrical standards I think things would be different. For warranties I dont like my light being out 2 weeks while waiting on parts as this is something I've had to deal with. Customs bullshit is the only issue there, nothing bad with the company. Just the time customs takes out of the matter

 

[Gwhiliker]

I believe my unit is UL listed. I will double check and report back. I would suggest only purchasing from a vendor whose products are UL listed regardless of application. My warranty is 5 years on the unit I purchased.

I believe your driver is ul listed, not the unit but I may be wrong