PGR Weed

Wastei

Wastei

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PURPLEB3RRYKUSH said:
PGR should only be used on plants that are not to be consumed, pgr causes cancer, only decent one is tricantonal, organic plant growth regulator without the cancer. Pgr is mainly used to stop trees growing tall and wide into powerlines.
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Triacontanol is not a typical PGR, it's a natural phytohormone. There's good and bad PGR's. Anything carcinogenic or affecting quality should not be used. That being said. NAA+IBA-K is good for root development.

Brassinolides is good for veg. BAP (benzylaminopurine) is practically sprayed on every harvested vegetable. Brassinolide, BAP and Triacontanol are all safe at correct dosages and timings. Gibberlins has saved a lot of old genetics. PGR's is not all bad if used safe and correctly.
 
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getogrow

getogrow

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Herbrewisralight said:
Like he said they are using recover so they’re getting the benefits of the pgr without quality loss. They’re growers out here getting three lbs a light. I can barely get two and now I see the reason why.
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So your telling us that if you use a chemical to cover up the pgr to pass a test, that the same chemical will "bring back the taste and quality" that the pgr ruined? Not possible. period.
Bud , you are in the wrong business. (or the right one depending on who you are) If you cannot make ends meet without the use of pgr's then why not quit ?
Why are you trying to compare or compete with big shitty commercial grows? 3lbs under a light just sounds like shit. im positive it taste like shit. im not saying it cannot be done , im saying your posts show you have no care for the weed, only the money.
 
Bears_win

Bears_win

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Tangerine_ said:
Some PGRs are completely natural and shouldnt be confused with synthetic PGRs like paclobutrazol

Really hate to see threads like this devolve into pissing matches...especially with a topic that needs to be at forefront with more awareness and education.

"Synthetic plant hormones and synthetic PGRs aim to either mimic hormones or interfere with pathways involved in the synthesis or breakdown of hormones in the plant. It's the PGRs that interfere with hormonal pathways that are most notorious. Big names include : Paclobutrazol, Chlormequat chloride, Daminozide, Uniconazole etc"
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Very much agree the big offenders that I’m aware of :namely PacloButrazol
Are easy to spot .. if I’m not It mistaken it’s a phospho lipid.
Swollen calyxs and little trichrome development . Plus the color was always a little off.

I use organic methods and incorporate triacantrol,cytokinetins, Humid/fulvic acids And salysilic acid. Also use IBA acid for cloning.
( forgive me I’m sure I misspelled all those )

i consider all those PGR And Am all about The life and vitality of my soil. I would not put in anything that I feel is poison.

just want to say it’s a touchy subject and nuanced.Lots of interesting work being done by labs in regards to plant growth and PGRs.. and they’re are organic PGRs they enhance growth or flower formation and .. are not poisonous to humans. ( at lest they have not been proven to be yet)
Thanks for
“Naming The names “ in regards to synthetic PGRs that are carcinogenic. Paclo is btw..

And food for Thought EVERY SINGLE piece of fruit or veggie you get in a store that is not organic ...
Wash it well! especially apples.

I am frequently mistaken but I believe paclobutrozol was formulated to boost apple production ..

take everything I With a grain of salt and dyor
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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mad_jet said:
It’s brutal in WA. Pretty much everything is PGR shit here.
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Lol, we must be buying different brands that dont get tested. Because LCB 100% regulates the use of PGRs and test for them. So incall BS unless you buying blackmarket then good luck.

Some interesting pearl clutching going on here. Good mix of usefulninfo and misinformation down right ignorance and staright up wrong.


Gibberlins, yes/no?

Auxins, yes/no?

Cytokins, yes/no?

Someone posted thier are good and bad PGRs, or naturally occuring and synthetic.... good time to educate less informed growers about 5he biology within their plants
 
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ilovereggae

ilovereggae

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Herbrewisralight said:
Like he said they are using recover so they’re getting the benefits of the pgr without quality loss. They’re growers out here getting three lbs a light. I can barely get two and now I see the reason why.
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please show proof that the recover fully removed the PGRs used. are you 100% positive it removes it, or does it just cover it up? even if it somehow magically did make it disappear, you are exposing yourself and your employees to carcinogens. maybe you don't care about your own health, but it would suck if you are willing to potentially poison your staff just to make a few extra dollars. how's that going to work out for you when you get sued for millions for knowingly used harmful and banned substances?

like was stated above, there are natural "pgrs" like kelp that can get you many of the positives with none of the negatives.

I am 100% sure that the combined crowdsourced wisdom of RIU can help you increase yields without having to resort to using those bad PGRs.
 
ilovereggae

ilovereggae

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Samwell Seed Well said:
Lol, we must be buying different brands that dont get tested. Because LCB 100% regulates the use of PGRs and test for them. So incall BS unless you buying blackmarket then good luck.
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did you miss where the poster mentioned that:

DankWilliamsSr said:
In nor-cal most of the big legal growers around here use paclobutrazol then use "uber re-cover" the uber re-cover will make it so the pgr chemical won't show up when they test the product. Then they can still sell on the legal market. A lot of black market people do the same thing. The uber re-cover also brings back the quality, (won't look like shitty super hairy pgr weed) actually will look super great quality. It's a pretty fucked up greed fueled system they got.
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also I am not claiming to be an expert on anything. I think a lot of this is common sense. Please correct any incorrect or wrong statements I have made, I am always willing to learn.
 
710slickxx

710slickxx

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Brudog said:
@CannaOnerStar ....can you better explain your brix theory or info? A link to something explaining or a place one can buy this “brix“ you’re talking about? I’m curious.

I also brew beer and make wine, have for years and have used refractometers to measure brix....which is basically a measurement of sugars in a liquid. Not something that is an ingredient to be dipped in. It’s the level of mostly sugars in a “thing”.

Happy to be schooled with some facts!
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This...

There is a high brix method with soil and ive seen it make some REALLY crazy results. I believe it falls into the no till category. High brix method has nothing to do with spraying weed, it was about boosting sugar levels in the soil to give the bacteria a nice boost. Im assuming its why there is molasses in re charge
 
Pparker88

Pparker88

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I’m out on PGR’s. It’s why I won’t visit black market dispensaries. Even tho it’s way cheaper.
 
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Herbrewisralight

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Pparker88 said:
I’m out on PGR’s. It’s why I won’t visit black market dispensaries. Even tho it’s way cheaper.
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Check this out. This is a bid that was grown by exotic genetics mike. He claims to have trimmed it hisself(oh so your a trimmer now) he also claims that this bud wasn’t grown using pgrs. I’ve never grown a bud that has such a round structure. He claims it’s due to the trim job but the structure is very round. If you go to his Instagram you will see that all his flowers have a very dense look to them. I’ve grown his strains and mines never come out as dense looking. I may be tripping but seems fishy to me. Another thing. He claims he never have used PGR before. He’s been growing for many years and there was a time when no one knew that pgrs was harmful correct. So even then when it was looked at as a great "bloom booster" he still wasn’t using it. There is a possibility but I think it’s low especially since he doesn’t grow organic.B8769622-D83E-42AC-86FF-FD6DECB81DFA.jpeg
 
Pparker88

Pparker88

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Herbrewisralight said:
Check this out. This is a bid that was grown by exotic genetics mike. He claims to have trimmed it hisself(oh so your a trimmer now) he also claims that this bud wasn’t grown using pgrs. I’ve never grown a bud that has such a round structure. He claims it’s due to the trim job but the structure is very round. If you go to his Instagram you will see that all his flowers have a very dense look to them. I’ve grown his strains and mines never come out as dense looking. I may be tripping but seems fishy to me. Another thing. He claims he never have used PGR before. He’s been growing for many years and there was a time when no one knew that pgrs was harmful correct. So even then when it was looked at as a great "bloom booster" he still wasn’t using it. There is a possibility but I think it’s low especially since he doesn’t grow organic.View attachment 4731228
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From what I’ve read, PGR bud has an overgrowth of pistils and less trichomes as well
 
Mirrordawn

Mirrordawn

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Samwell Seed Well said:
Lol, we must be buying different brands that dont get tested. Because LCB 100% regulates the use of PGRs and test for them. So incall BS unless you buying blackmarket then good luck.

Some interesting pearl clutching going on here. Good mix of usefulninfo and misinformation down right ignorance and staright up wrong.


Gibberlins, yes/no?

Auxins, yes/no?

Cytokins, yes/no?

Someone posted thier are good and bad PGRs, or naturally occuring and synthetic.... good time to educate less informed growers about 5he biology within their plants
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We've already talked about this dude, go back a few pages
 
Mirrordawn

Mirrordawn

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Herbrewisralight said:
Check this out. This is a bid that was grown by exotic genetics mike. He claims to have trimmed it hisself(oh so your a trimmer now) he also claims that this bud wasn’t grown using pgrs. I’ve never grown a bud that has such a round structure. He claims it’s due to the trim job but the structure is very round. If you go to his Instagram you will see that all his flowers have a very dense look to them. I’ve grown his strains and mines never come out as dense looking. I may be tripping but seems fishy to me. Another thing. He claims he never have used PGR before. He’s been growing for many years and there was a time when no one knew that pgrs was harmful correct. So even then when it was looked at as a great "bloom booster" he still wasn’t using it. There is a possibility but I think it’s low especially since he doesn’t grow organic.View attachment 4731228
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Look man, if you can't get good yields without PGR's .... You should probably try growing garden flowers instead ... sorry to say ...
 
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Herbrewisralight

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mad_jet said:
Yeah mate he doesn’t read by the looks of things...
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From the looks of things you don’t know how to grow.. That’s crazy we’re talking about pgr and the bud on your avatar looks like Mexican brick. Your grow skill doesn’t warrant you to even participate in this conversation.
 
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