farmingfisherman
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Love the space and design you run. After my last plant I'm having a hard time growing with a tent again.
40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip
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diggs99
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I’m good bro, just plugging along.
doing some changes/Reno’s to the garden-room.
About to toss some beans in to soak for the next batch. Covid has our small grow shop depleted, couldn’t get any coco and waiting on flood tables and parts for my eventual e&f setup. So the plan is to grow 4 monsters in soil for the next run, then hoping to switch to e&f for a round or two lol.
ordering some new gear from usefulfor the winter. Bean stock is getting low on my end.
glad your doing well. I got some ideas to bounce off you soon, I’ll hit you up when I’m ready for your answers lol.
take care buddy
cobshopgrow
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very nice to see you comparing different media mixes, seems you made a interessting choice.
Renfro
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Just an update on things.
I have been playing with the chem-gro 4-20-39 stuff and have found that this mix seems to be the best so far with the experimental coco mixes:
#'s in Grams Per Gallon
Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom) = 2.0 (may be able to lower)
4-20-39 = 2.5 (3 was definitely too much lol)
Calcium Nitrate = 2.0
I think the manufacturer recommended amount of epsom would probably be great unless using the coco, in that case a little bump from 1.33 to 2 grams per gallon seemed prudent. I am not sure that much is required though with my medium mix having a lot of perlite and vermiculite. I may try easing it back a little as I continue tweaking the mix.
The biggest thing is pH, in my veg room they have been getting a higher pH around 6.8 and they seem very happy. I tried using 6.2, 6.0, 5.8 on different rows and they seem to want something different so the last feed I did half the plants at 6.8 and the other half at 5.8. Will see how they react. I suspect I will need to feed high on the pH and that definitely seems odd but what they want is what they will get. Still tweaking and tuning for the medium but my being lazy and not ph'ing in the veg room seems to have pointed my in the right direction (up).
Once I nail the pH down to a finite number I will start trying to ease off the Epsom a little to find where it really needs to be, maybe I can get it down to 1.5 grams per gallon since the mixes I am running are < 50% coco.
I have been playing with the chem-gro 4-20-39 stuff and have found that this mix seems to be the best so far with the experimental coco mixes:
#'s in Grams Per Gallon
Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom) = 2.0 (may be able to lower)
4-20-39 = 2.5 (3 was definitely too much lol)
Calcium Nitrate = 2.0
I think the manufacturer recommended amount of epsom would probably be great unless using the coco, in that case a little bump from 1.33 to 2 grams per gallon seemed prudent. I am not sure that much is required though with my medium mix having a lot of perlite and vermiculite. I may try easing it back a little as I continue tweaking the mix.
The biggest thing is pH, in my veg room they have been getting a higher pH around 6.8 and they seem very happy. I tried using 6.2, 6.0, 5.8 on different rows and they seem to want something different so the last feed I did half the plants at 6.8 and the other half at 5.8. Will see how they react. I suspect I will need to feed high on the pH and that definitely seems odd but what they want is what they will get. Still tweaking and tuning for the medium but my being lazy and not ph'ing in the veg room seems to have pointed my in the right direction (up).
Once I nail the pH down to a finite number I will start trying to ease off the Epsom a little to find where it really needs to be, maybe I can get it down to 1.5 grams per gallon since the mixes I am running are < 50% coco.
cobshopgrow
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sounds your mixes arent overly high in cocos seems the cocos part contains lots of cork too ? (if were speaking of the 3 listed 2 pages back).
do your mix with the highest vermiculite amount do have the highest PH?
it can be a bit, or even more then a bit, alkaline.
do love vermiculite for several reasons, think the only dislike is the pretty high PH, interessting to hear it seems to be in your favor.
in the right mix it should be real good stuff for sure.
do your mix with the highest vermiculite amount do have the highest PH?
it can be a bit, or even more then a bit, alkaline.
THE pH OF VERMICULITE--THE SCHUNDLER COMPANY
www.schundler.com
in the right mix it should be real good stuff for sure.
Renfro
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Yeah I had issues with the coco/cork being really acidic on it's own. So perhaps the vermiculite is a good thing for that.
cobshopgrow
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sounds good, also it sounds like your plants doing well with a slight higher PH.
thinking youre right, cork+vermiculite = good mix.
thinking youre right, cork+vermiculite = good mix.
natstonecold
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Hi Renfro, do you still use the feeding formula in page 1?
Gtjoker420
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Your setup is always looking so clean! looking good
Renfro
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I don't recall writing one:
EC (Electrical Condictivity) as typically quantified using an electronic EC/TDS/PPM meter is usually displayed in Siemens like 2.0 Siemens = 2000 uS (micro siemens) and can be converted to "PPM" with a multiplier. 0.5 multiplier closely replicates the mg/l (elemental PPM) of NaCl (table salt) although some meters use a 0.7 conversion from uS, so a 0.7 meter would read 1400 PPM where a 0.5 meter would read 1000 PPM.
2000 uS = 2.0 Siemens
2000 uS X 0.5 = 1000 PPM at 0.5 conversion
2000 uS X 0.7 = 1400 PPM @ 0.7 conversion.
Some meters even use a 0.64 conversion but they aren't that common.
True elemental PPM is a mg/L number.
I could indeed use that but I am trying out the Chem-Grow 4-20-39 product currently.
MintyDreadlocks
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how long have u been in the game bro? And what resources did you use (books, websites)
Renfro
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since '89
MintyDreadlocks
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Are you sure you didn't create the plant? lmao. u gotta let me know what your favorite reads were.
Renfro
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Back then I learned what little I knew from Ed Rosenthal in High Times. Learned a lot on my own during the 90's. Wasn't until the early 2000's I got on Overgrow.com and did that for a few years but ditched any online presence during the years I was running several grow houses in Missouri. I kept totally off the radar during those years, didn't even want internet lol.
UnknownTran
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Finished your journal from start 3 times, and always learning something valuable every time. Learned a lot from you without every talking to you lol.
Cheers, will definitely be reading some more
Cheers, will definitely be reading some more
DoubleAtotheRON
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Renfro
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Whats the reason for circulating the air between the rooms?
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