And yes they can be topped, supercropped, you name it, hell I know a guy who mainlines them! Obviously not all strains are candidates for that but the same holds true for photoperiods.
You seem to have tried lots of things along the way, I'm curious why you choose not to top your autos? And you mentioned you grow photos too, do you top them?That's really a misconception. Autoflowers are incredivly resilient. My very first auto was a White Widow in DWC. at 21 days, I accidentally broke the stem at the second node! I taped her up and three days later her stem was healed enough to remove the tape. She stalled for about 10 days. I was growing two of these. The second one gave me 30 grams, the plant I broke? 170 grams! Had other really stressed autos,
( been growing them quite a while ), like the one myy dog pulled completely out of a pot of coco, about ten days old. I replanted it just for the hell of it, didn't expect it to live. Again, the biggest and best producer of the lot.
The trick with training them is start early.
I defoliated this girl about 2 weeks ago. Linda seeds Gorilla Glue auto in a 1 gallon ( 4L ) pot. 44" tall. She's so tall in that little pot I had to tie her to keep her from falling over.
she at about day 50 right now
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Here are my Auto Girls, 56 days from seeds breaking the ground. GSC In the front row and Lemon Drop Autos in the Back.
I average from 3 to 4 ounces per plant.
You seem to have tried lots of things along the way, I'm curious why you choose not to top your autos? And you mentioned you grow photos too, do you top them?
I started topping a few years ago with outdoor grows, because bugs or mold could hit that giant top cola and I'd lose too much of the plant if that was lost or damaged. Better to spread out the joy. Once I started, I never stopped -- indoors and outdoors, autos and photos -- and I've been consistently happy with the results.
Autos are going to start flowering on day (example 35) regardless of what you do them. Anything you do to slow down/reduce the amount it vegges will lower yield. Photos on the other hand will flower when you switch to 12/12. So you can top them several times and just keep vegging them out until a single plant fills a 10x10 tent if you want.I'm curious why you choose not to top your autos?
think we have misunderstandings , Ii was replying to @Dontjudgeme about he's veak potentcy grown autos..I know the breeder very well.... they are my own cross. Blueberry Headband x Durrty Dragon ( by Mossy ). These are F7 I'm growing.
So far I've grown about 2 dozen autos over the course of three summers, all outside. I think there was only one plant I didn't top, the rare stunted one that was so small it wasn't worth it. I've only had one react badly, it sort of froze at the topping point and created two very odd round bud structure. The rest reacted exactly like all the photos I've topped over the years, although autos I only cut once after the fourth node for eight main branches, and photos I have topped more than once.Autos are going to start flowering on day (example 35) regardless of what you do them. Anything you do to slow down/reduce the amount it vegges will lower yield. Photos on the other hand will flower when you switch to 12/12. So you can top them several times and just keep vegging them out until a single plant fills a 10x10 tent if you want.
Oh yeah outdoor is a whole different game.So far I've grown about 2 dozen autos over the course of three summers, all outside. I think there was only one plant I didn't top, the rare stunted one that was so small it wasn't worth it. I've only had one react badly, it sort of froze at the topping point and created two very odd round bud structure. The rest reacted exactly like all the photos I've topped over the years, although autos I only cut once after the fourth node for eight main branches, and photos I have topped more than once.
I don't have a point of comparison, I never had two side by side where one was topped and the other not (and two plants from seeds are a vague comparison anyway), but since I've been happy with the results I'm going to keep doing it, at least outdoors. I'm considering growing some indoors, so if I were to setup a small perpetual run I might reconsider it, but for now it's working for me.
Autos are going to start flowering on day (example 35) regardless of what you do them. Anything you do to slow down/reduce the amount it vegges will lower yield. Photos on the other hand will flower when you switch to 12/12. So you can top them several times and just keep vegging them out until a single plant fills a 10x10 tent if you want.
All this guy does is complain aboit autos in this and the general section and he doesn't even grow them anymore. Did like 3 grows of Fast Buds and now trashes them. Like, what's the point? Move on man XDAnd I can plant enough of my Blue Dragons to do the same thing, Don't need to keep mother plants, don't need a space for clones and being F7 seed, they are pretty uniform. And I could fill that 10x10 space every 70-90 days. And no, manipulating an auto won't usually affect growth or yeild. I scrogged an Auto Ultimate. The early defoliation and super cropping slowed her down, didn't flower till day 43. She completely filled a 4x4 scrog net and yielded just shy of a pound dry. And that was my first scrog attempt.
So if you want to talk autos with me, you'd best know what your talking about. Any kind of plant training you can name, I've done to autos, including mainlining!
Autos are going to start flowering on day (example 35) regardless of what you do them. Anything you do to slow down/reduce the amount it vegges will lower yield. Photos on the other hand will flower when you switch to 12/12. So you can top them several times and just keep vegging them out until a single plant fills a 10x10 tent if you want.
And I can plant enough of my Blue Dragons to do the same thing, Don't need to keep mother plants, don't need a space for clones and being F7 seed, they are pretty uniform. And I could fill that 10x10 space every 70-90 days. And no, manipulating an auto won't usually affect growth or yeild. I scrogged an Auto Ultimate. The early defoliation and super cropping slowed her down, didn't flower till day 43. She completely filled a 4x4 scrog net and yielded just shy of a pound dry. And that was my first scrog attempt.
So if you want to talk autos with me, you'd best know what your talking about. Any kind of plant training you can name, I've done to autos, including mainlining!
Reading your post I came to this conclusion I think its about genetics..
Because I had autos (mostly ) mephisto that had their flowering clock set up at 21st day.. And If I fckd up my seedling / veg stage, final result would be pretty bunk..
SO I think you both are right!
think we have misunderstandings , Ii was replying to @Dontjudgeme about he's veak potentcy grown autos..
Not to you my man...
How do you know on what height to put scrog net?
Especially with autos..
I again fcked mines in start..This will be "fun" journey..
think we have misunderstandings , Ii was replying to @Dontjudgeme about he's veak potentcy grown autos..
Not to you my man...
How do you know on what height to put scrog net?
Especially with autos..
I again fcked mines in start..This will be "fun" journey..