Honestly need to say I am not a breeder and these things deep behind that are unknown for me. I have also some seed from outdoor autos, keep them for some kind of experiments to the future but never would give them a full trust to put them in the real run. I am “allowed” to grow only 5 plants so the cost for seeds are ridiculous risking losing the crop trying saving change money. You guys noticed rodelization as a nature princip applied in the grow. I do not know. Seeds takes at least 4 weeks (correct me if I am talking BSs), plant throw nanners in late flower and need that time for mature the seeds, problem is there is a hungry grower ready to cut it down. In the nature this is not happening, plant can live much longer and let the seeds mature. Thats how I understand this process, passing plants harvest window, when the plant know it by itself and there is not so many things which can be done... anyway every seed is precius, I have never thrown away a single piece.