Yellowing on first set of real leaves

mastadj19

mastadj19

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Hello all!
First attempt at growing in about 11 years or so.
I have two girls just sprouting above the surface.
White Widow and Girl Scout Cookies, Both Auto. Growing in a 2x4x5 tent with SF1000 light. I do have a Carbon Filter hooked up to an inline fan. The girls are in solo cups filled with FF Happy Frog soil. The GSC is small and yellow tips on its first true set of leaves.
I’m thinking the one may have been over watered but not so sure. Would like some other input!
WW first and bigger than the GSC
 

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The Real Medicine Man

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Hey hope she gets better! So 1st thing is anytime you have an auto you will want to plant her(s) in her final container.. You aren't supposed to trans auto because of the shock that will occur (more often then not) which stunts growth and final bud production. But back to the yellowing. I have had the same problem w FF happy frog, Strawberry fields and OF.. They run to high on the ppm side for seedlings more often then not burning them even though they aren't supposed to. All strains react differently.. If possible try using something more in line with new sprouts. My buddy grew GSC 2x both times he overloaded her on the nutes using one size for all feeding u know. Well it didn't go well for him lol. GSC does not need a lot of food from what I've gathered from her.
 
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mastadj19

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Knowing the transplanting thing now, should I go ahead and transplant now or wait til roots have grown a little more so they are more sturdy
 
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jonnynobody

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mastadj19 said:
Hello all!
First attempt at growing in about 11 years or so.
I have two girls just sprouting above the surface.
White Widow and Girl Scout Cookies, Both Auto. Growing in a 2x4x5 tent with SF1000 light. I do have a Carbon Filter hooked up to an inline fan. The girls are in solo cups filled with FF Happy Frog soil. The GSC is small and yellow tips on its first true set of leaves.
I’m thinking the one may have been over watered but not so sure. Would like some other input!
WW first and bigger than the GSC
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Congrats on your first grow in 11 years! It's a celebration! :)

Sometimes a seed is just a dud plain and simple. Me thinks you got a dud on your hands there. It's nothing you did wrong. Just like sometimes a baby is still born, right? Sometimes the genetics just aren't there and that's just nature doing what she does. Don't sweat it. Plant another seed. I would not expect that seedling to pop out of that funk. Sometimes they do, but it's very rare.
 
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Also, it would behoove you to plant your seedlings in smaller containers. You'll get more rapid root growth and accelerated growth. Why? When you plant a small seedling with tiny developing roots into a large container it takes a very long time for that container to dry out which essentially starves the developing roots of fresh oxygen. The medium is just water logged with water the plant has no ability to absorb, so you end up getting very slow growth. It will grow. Just very slowly, because you're constantly waiting for all that dirt to dry out for which the plant has no roots yet developed to absorb. In a small 16oz cup your wet and dry cycles will occur every other day versus a large container that may go 7 or 8 days before it can take water again. Increased wet / dry cycles accelerates growth. Start in smaller containers. Then transplant around week 2 or 3 when you've developed a nice healthy root system.
 
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The Real Medicine Man

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jonnynobody said:
Also, it would behoove you to plant your seedlings in smaller containers. You'll get more rapid root growth and accelerated growth. Why? When you plant a small seedling with tiny developing roots into a large container it takes a very long time for that container to dry out which essentially starves the developing roots of fresh oxygen. The medium is just water logged with water the plant has no ability to absorb, so you end up getting very slow growth. It will grow. Just very slowly, because you're constantly waiting for all that dirt to dry out for which the plant has no roots yet developed to absorb. In a small 16oz cup your wet and dry cycles will occur every other day versus a large container that may go 7 or 8 days before it can take water again. Increased wet / dry cycles accelerates growth. Start in smaller containers. Then transplant around week 2 or 3 when you've developed a nice healthy root system.
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And result. A small ass auto. Stop spreading these lies guys. U do not put an auto in a small ass container. Are you new to growing
 
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The Real Medicine Man

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jonnynobody said:
Also, it would behoove you to plant your seedlings in smaller containers. You'll get more rapid root growth and accelerated growth. Why? When you plant a small seedling with tiny developing roots into a large container it takes a very long time for that container to dry out which essentially starves the developing roots of fresh oxygen. The medium is just water logged with water the plant has no ability to absorb, so you end up getting very slow growth. It will grow. Just very slowly, because you're constantly waiting for all that dirt to dry out for which the plant has no roots yet developed to absorb. In a small 16oz cup your wet and dry cycles will occur every other day versus a large container that may go 7 or 8 days before it can take water again. Increased wet / dry cycles accelerates growth. Start in smaller containers. Then transplant around week 2 or 3 when you've developed a nice healthy root system.
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WRONG... Do you grow auto or photo or do you clone?
 
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Thank you. If you scroll up I explained more in depth. It's because 95% of the time they will experience some sort of shock. No matter what you do or use. They are way more fragile then a photo period or a clone. They need the best start at life when seeds if they get trans they will spend that precious time healing from the shock rather then spending time growing.
 

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Say you have an auto u get 4 wks at best b4 preflowers move in then the stretch comes a vigorous one at tht. If you have planted in a solo cup for its first few weeks then trans it will have a hard time to start preflowering because of the stress. So their for growth gets thrown off big time..
 
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jonnynobody

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The Real Medicine Man said:
Thank you. If you scroll up I explained more in depth. It's because 95% of the time they will experience some sort of shock. No matter what you do or use. They are way more fragile then a photo period or a clone. They need the best start at life when seeds if they get trans they will spend that precious time healing from the shock rather then spending time growing.
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I can dig the logic, but it really comes down to the grower and how gently they handle their plants. I've never experienced any shock transplanting small plants. Typically shock is observed in a larger transplant like a 5gallon pot to a 10 or 15 gallon pot. The reason for that is because there really isn't anything "gentle" about transplanting a plant of that size. Also, when a plant is that large gardeners often score the roots to encourage branching. That most certainly will cause shock. However, transplanting a seedling from a 16oz cup to a 3 or 5 gallon home executed with care should cause no shock or issues of any kind with plant growth. It should actually accelerate growth as the vast root system now has a larger home to spread out. It really comes down to the grower's ability to execute a gentle transplant without roughing the plant up. The best results are obtained when the plant is ready for water. The roots just cling to the dirt as a singular unit. Tip the cup upside down and she'll pop right out in one piece. Pop her in her new home. Pour dirt around her. Give that lady some water. She's happy as a clam.
 
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jonnynobody said:
I can dig the logic, but it really comes down to the grower and how gently they handle their plants. I've never experienced any shock transplanting small plants. Typically shock is observed in a larger transplant like a 5gallon pot to a 10 or 15 gallon pot. The reason for that is because there really isn't anything "gentle" about transplanting a plant of that size. Also, when a plant is that large gardeners often score the roots to encourage branching. That most certainly will cause shock. However, transplanting a seedling from a 16oz cup to a 3 or 5 gallon home executed with care should cause no shock or issues of any kind with plant growth. It should actually accelerate growth as the vast root system now has a larger home to spread out. It really comes down to the grower's ability to execute a gentle transplant without roughing the plant up. The best results are obtained when the plant is ready for water. The roots just cling to the dirt as a singular unit. Tip the cup upside down and she'll pop right out in one piece. Pop her in her new home. Pour dirt around her. Give that lady some water. She's happy as a clam.
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The Real Medicine Man said:
Say you have an auto u get 4 wks at best b4 preflowers move in then the stretch comes a vigorous one at tht. If you have planted in a solo cup for its first few weeks then trans it will have a hard time to start preflowering because of the stress. So their for growth gets thrown off big time..
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I get your logic and there's nothing wrong with that way of thinking. Ultimately it's your garden and every gardener should do what is best for their plants. In a nutshell I feel you could obtain a larger root system that may be capable of growing a larger plant with larger flowers with the up pot method. Your girls look fantastic and your methods are working nicely!
 
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OP, how close are the lights to those seedlings and do you have them at 100%? Lots of people burn their seedlings with their first new LED of decent quality
 
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