Unclebilly
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Yeah okay. Makes sense, My big question was should I expect to see them recover? Should I trim them off? How often should I be top dressing now until harvest? Every week? 2 weeks?
First timer - organic grow questions
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myke
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I go weekly Gaia is 1 tbls per gallon a month so divide by 4.for weekly edit gallon of soil.lol.
Unclebilly
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Gotcha. Okay I’ll go for it
canna_420
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Insect frass , last around 4 weeks NPK depends on the insect used but 3.2.3 average , benifitial fungi with micro and macro.
Cheaper than worm.
Soak some in tepid filter water for hour then water for an organic NPK boost.
www.agrigrub.co.uk
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Cheaper than worm.
Soak some in tepid filter water for hour then water for an organic NPK boost.
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canna_420
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O yeah, forgot to add this stating that frass is as efficient as NPK.
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Potential use of mealworm frass as a fertilizer: Impact on crop growth and soil properties - Scientific Reports
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Unclebilly
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Hey guys. I have an update and question
See my latest pics from tonight.
UPDATE: My fan leaves never really stopped yellowing or dying... I start week 6 of flower. I have top dressed twice now with 1 tbsp per gallon soil with this organic tomato 4-7-1. I have ordered some Gaia green 2-8-4 but the shipping is slower than molasses in January. Should be here on Monday.
Questions: Do my buds look under developed after 5 weeks flower? (It’s my first time so I have no idea what to expect other than what I’ve read online.)
Is it normal for my fan leaves to be yellowing and dying off slowly?
How am I looking so far? Any advice or suggestions for the coming weeks?
As always, I appreciate the great feedback.
See my latest pics from tonight.
UPDATE: My fan leaves never really stopped yellowing or dying... I start week 6 of flower. I have top dressed twice now with 1 tbsp per gallon soil with this organic tomato 4-7-1. I have ordered some Gaia green 2-8-4 but the shipping is slower than molasses in January. Should be here on Monday.
Questions: Do my buds look under developed after 5 weeks flower? (It’s my first time so I have no idea what to expect other than what I’ve read online.)
Is it normal for my fan leaves to be yellowing and dying off slowly?
How am I looking so far? Any advice or suggestions for the coming weeks?
As always, I appreciate the great feedback.
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5th week from flip? I'd say the flowers look fine for that age and stage, but the leaves perhaps indicate a bit of a nitrogen shortage.Hey guys. I have an update and question
See my latest pics from tonight.
UPDATE: My fan leaves never really stopped yellowing or dying... I start week 6 of flower. I have top dressed twice now with 1 tbsp per gallon soil with this organic tomato 4-7-1. I have ordered some Gaia green 2-8-4 but the shipping is slower than molasses in January. Should be here on Monday.
Questions: Do my buds look under developed after 5 weeks flower? (It’s my first time so I have no idea what to expect other than what I’ve read online.)
Is it normal for my fan leaves to be yellowing and dying off slowly?
How am I looking so far? Any advice or suggestions for the coming weeks?
As always, I appreciate the great feedback.
Unclebilly
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Yes 5th week from flip. I vegged for 9 weeks.
should I not have seen it improve over these last 2 top dressings of the 4-7-1? That’s what I was thinking anyway.
Well I don't think you look behind really in flower development, but those leaves TBH look to be a bit of concern going forward. I never used top dressings of 4.7.1 before, nor would I because of the high potassium content. Anything like that would kill my no-till, and I'd likely have to throw it out. Lol
Unclebilly
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The phosphorus you mean?
Oops yeah, sorry man. Very high here. Lol
@Unclebilly I wonder about the balance of nutrients you're giving your plant. I'd start by replying with the cliche "you should feed the soil not the plant", but we'll skip that considering you decided otherwise. You'll still grow great bud 
About your potassium. It's 7 times lower than your phosphorus? I don't think that's a good idea even with throwaway soil medium. IDK if that's a balanced nutrient regimen. Sounds kinda weird to me. No organic material I feed my plants (hay & alfalfa) is anything like that, so I'm in the dark there. I wouldn't experiment with wildly radical nutrient mixes though, even in my hydro days especially when loss of yield, productivity, or quality could mean loss of income.
About your potassium. It's 7 times lower than your phosphorus? I don't think that's a good idea even with throwaway soil medium. IDK if that's a balanced nutrient regimen. Sounds kinda weird to me. No organic material I feed my plants (hay & alfalfa) is anything like that, so I'm in the dark there. I wouldn't experiment with wildly radical nutrient mixes though, even in my hydro days especially when loss of yield, productivity, or quality could mean loss of income.
canna_420
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What does the PH run like in their?Hey guys. I have an update and question
See my latest pics from tonight.
UPDATE: My fan leaves never really stopped yellowing or dying... I start week 6 of flower. I have top dressed twice now with 1 tbsp per gallon soil with this organic tomato 4-7-1. I have ordered some Gaia green 2-8-4 but the shipping is slower than molasses in January. Should be here on Monday.
Questions: Do my buds look under developed after 5 weeks flower? (It’s my first time so I have no idea what to expect other than what I’ve read online.)
Is it normal for my fan leaves to be yellowing and dying off slowly?
How am I looking so far? Any advice or suggestions for the coming weeks?
As always, I appreciate the great feedback.
I'd do like the others have mentioned swap the high N Tom feed for a higher PK flowering feed. Make sure to add cal/mag when switch to higher PK to aid the PK.
If you have a very active soil your bussies should fix the N into K.
That's the reason I love insect grass.
*Are you using Epsom salt for the sulphur and Mag?
Unclebilly
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so once my Gaia green 2-8-4 comes in, I’ll give it a top dressing.
No I haven’t used any Epsom salts should I ?
swedsteven
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Not enought nitrogen in your MIX
And 284 alone make my pkant yellow i mix it 50/50 with the 444 all purpose to keep them green in flowering !
Try next grow very easy .
Unclebilly
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Ok good to know because have both 444 and 284 coming tomorrow.
Hollatchaboy
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Next time, make it really easy and get some bas craft blend, ewc, baf, and grokashi. Top it off with some straw.