At a loss once again

[green_machine_two9er]

I’ll get some work castings later today. But I don’t know of any local place that carries the fruit and flower, fastest I’d be able to get it would be Thursday. Would there be any other kinds? Or should I just wait till Thursday (not sure how big of a pressing issue it is)

honestly any dry ammendment would work, dr earth, mother earth, roots uprising.

 

[Pmurp]

Ph.... save if for the water gardens.
like @Wattzzup said.

Here’s a remedy for ya.
1 inch of quality earth worm castings on top of your containers. Then water. You might need some food but for now get your biology back on track. Happy frog makes a bagged fertilizer called fruit and flower. It’s super cheap and effective as slow release nutrition.
I would perhaps add something like that first under your castings.

did exactly this short of the fruit and flower. Closest thing I could find at the Home Cheapo was some 15-30-15 bold blooms with time release.
Should I continue to feed 1/2 strength nutes? Or just plain water.

 

[RadicalRoss]

I've seen my tap water come out of the faucet at 8.5 pH, maybe yall don't have to pH it for your soil grows but I know from experience my plants don't like it when I don't.

It definitely looks like a nutrient issue to me. Others have had good advice, you may try tossing some epsom salt into your water as well.

 

[green_machine_two9er]

did exactly this short of the fruit and flower. Closest thing I could find at the Home Cheapo was some 15-30-15 bold blooms with time release.
Should I continue to feed 1/2 strength nutes? Or just plain water.

That scares me. Anytime I here time release and numbers that high. I wouldn’t touch it. But that’s just me.

 

[Pmurp]

That scares me. Anytime I here time release and numbers that high. I wouldn’t touch it. But that’s just me.

Do you think it’s a potential threat to the plant / yield? If it’s worth it I can get the Dr. Earth bud + bloom booster and just take out the worm castings / fert and replace it. I just don’t want to fuck this plant up worse haha

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Do you think it’s a potential threat to the plant / yield? If it’s worth it I can get the Dr. Earth bud + bloom booster and just take out the worm castings / fert and replace it. I just don’t want to fuck this plant up worse haha

Have you ever considered a simple basic mix with available pre mixed organic soil bases and online amendments? Really hate hearing people dig their own holes as they go high tech before they even understand the basics. A thought is all.

 

[Pmurp]

Have you ever considered a simple basic mix with available pre mixed organic soil bases and online amendments? Really hate hearing people dig their own holes as they go high tech before they even understand the basics. A thought is all.

Isn’t that something I would have had to do before transplanting and being put into flower? I got the FFHF thinking it was a decent super soil to try to avoid all of this hassle. Quickly finding out how that decision worked out.

in the meantime I don’t know much about fertilizers or the uptake of nutrients, with the 15-30-15 time release I added thinking it was virtually the same as the DR. Earth, plus

That scares me. Anytime I here time release and numbers that high. I wouldn’t touch it. But that’s just me.

this has me worried of stressing / damaging my plant out more.

Next grow I’m definitely making my own super soil, just gotta do research

 

[Pmurp]

Have you ever considered a simple basic mix with available pre mixed organic soil bases and online amendments? Really hate hearing people dig their own holes as they go high tech before they even understand the basics. A thought is all.

I’m pretty clueless at this point, don’t let the “well known member” fool you. I’m trying to learn as I grow but at the moment I’m pretty over my head. Shockingly my first grow was MUCH easier than this

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Isn’t that something I would have had to do before transplanting and being put into flower? I got the FFHF thinking it was a decent super soil to try to avoid all of this hassle. Quickly finding out how that decision worked out.

in the meantime I don’t know much about fertilizers or the uptake of nutrients, with the 15-30-15 time release I added thinking it was virtually the same as the DR. Earth, plus

this has me worried of stressing / damaging my plant out more.

Next grow I’m definitely making my own super soil, just gotta do research

It was a thought for your next grow. I have no advice beyond what I gave at this point. I do not know the actual mix or ratios of your medium. And liquid ferts with dry slow release is fine when you can read the plants and have PH and PPM figured out. Top dress will do no damage if in moderation. Shiny bottles will kill them if you are not familiar and comfortable with them. It is a fairly small line to walk.

And it isn't research that builds "Super Soil". It is experience. Super problems until then.

Trying to be honest.

 

[Pmurp]

It was a thought for your next grow. I have no advice beyond what I gave at this point. I do not know the actual mix or ratios of your medium. And liquid ferts with dry slow release is fine when you can read the plants and have PH and PPM figured out. Top dress will do no damage if in moderation. Shiny bottles will kill them if you are not familiar and comfortable with them. It is a fairly small line to walk.

And it isn't research that builds "Super Soil". It is experience. Super problems until then.

Trying to be honest.

Thanks, I appreciate the honesty. And I was able to find and mix the foliar spray. But I’m still confused when it comes to the kelp / lobster fert. Any you’d recommend? I was looking at the coast of Maine stonington mix if that works

 

[Pmurp]

Here’s an update on the plant by the way

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Thanks, I appreciate the honesty. And I was able to find and mix the foliar spray. But I’m still confused when it comes to the kelp / lobster fert. Any you’d recommend? I was looking at the coast of Maine stonington mix if that works

I'd highly recommend Coast of Maine. My go to now. I have a proven mix of 8 parts. 3 of the 4 soil bases you can get at local stores. My 4 amendments are available online. A work in progress. As every season is another juggle. But just tap water and easy grow. Here is my mix on tap water water only until yesterday from start on 4/20 from seeds.

I'll help if I can.

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Here’s an update on the plant by the way

You are going to loose a lot of those leaves. I see green coming below. I still say tap water. Was your error. Fancy water is best left to the wet chemistry experiments. The frustrations and not needed expenses of trying to outsmart nature I have been through. I would suggest another fish foliar in 3 days from last for another 2 days. And use tap water.

 

[Pmurp]

I'd highly recommend Coast of Maine. My go to now. I have a proven mix of 8 parts. 3 of the 4 soil bases you can get at local stores. My 4 amendments are available online. A work in progress. As every season is another juggle. But just tap water and easy grow. Here is my mix on tap water water only until yesterday from start on 4/20 from seeds.

I'll help if I can. View attachment 4915079

Sounds like coast of Maine is the route I’ll take then. Back to the 15-30-15 I already added, did I shoot myself in the foot? Is it worth it to remove? Especially when I try to add the kelp / lobster fert

 

[MICHI-CAN]

Sounds like coast of Maine is the route I’ll take then. Back to the 15-30-15 I already added, did I shoot myself in the foot? Is it worth it to remove? Especially when I try to add the kelp / lobster fert

Leave it. Higher N than wanted. Will be dark green when plant can get straight again. And don't add any more variables to your mix until the plant recovers. Just creating issues. Learn to seek the smallest possible changes in your methods to ensure a healthy plant.

How many cold remedies do you ingest when feeling a bit under the weather thing.

 

[canna_420]

I’m pretty clueless at this point, don’t let the “well known member” fool you. I’m trying to learn as I grow but at the moment I’m pretty over my head. Shockingly my first grow was MUCH easier than this

If you have time release ferts in your soil don't use any other kind of feed not even the fish mix. Epsom spray yeah.

With time release they could release as you hit it with fish causing a lockout.

Just use water and a touch of acid to get it 6.5

Water coming out around 7 is fine but 8 is high.

 

[Pmurp]

Leave it. Higher N than wanted. Will be dark green when plant can get straight again. And don't add any more variables to your mix until the plant recovers. Just creating issues. Learn to seek the smallest possible changes in your methods to ensure a healthy plant.

How many cold remedies do you ingest when feeling a bit under the weather thing.

Okay I’ll keep updating periodically to see when I should add. Sounds like a lesson learned on that one

 

[MICHI-CAN]

If you have time release ferts in your soil don't use any other kind of feed not even the fish mix. Epsom spray yeah.

With time release they could release as you hit it with fish causing a lockout.

Just use water and a touch of acid to get it 6.5

Water coming out around 7 is fine but 8 is high.

All on your plant understanding. But best for noobs to avoid. I agree with that part.

 

[Pmurp]

All on your plant understanding. But best for noobs to avoid. I agree with that part.

If you have time release ferts in your soil don't use any other kind of feed not even the fish mix. Epsom spray yeah.

With time release they could release as you hit it with fish causing a lockout.

Just made a new foliar spray with a little less than 1/4 tsp of epsom salt no fish fert. I’ll spray it first thing tomorrow when lights are going off

 

[Dr. Who]

The guy say's he's using 1/2 strength nutrient mix....

Now what does that tell all you experts?

Now look at the pictures again......

Water issue?
pH issue?

Nope.... Feed them!

kind-a late this time around