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Pandora91

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I’m going with Dank. I think they’re over watered. I bought one of those cheap moisture meters off eBay, and I stick it in the dirt to measure the moisture. I bet if you had one, you’d find they are wetter than you think. And just as a reference, I also have a GDP going, and I haven’t found the stretch to be near as much as I thought. Here are pics of the day I flipped to 12/12, and exactly 2 weeks later.
I have one of those moisture sticks that’s also how I’ve been monitoring the soil ph. I water when it reads the soil is dry but not like completely dry like the meter shows dry, moist and wet and I watered when it goes down to about the halfway point in the dry section if that makes sense. And yea that’s what I’ve read about gdp is the stretch on it isn’t nearly as much as most people assume and that’s why I figured I could let it be in veg for a while longer because I think I’d still have room at the top of my tent if I flipped now and I wanna try to utilize all the space but I’m running out of room width wise
 

Pandora91

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Clean up the bottom that won't get much light, and flip 3 days later, you need to do this asap because that tent is seriously going to be over crowded, I'm growing that strain right now and that is definitely going to double in size maybe abit more if it stretches for light...
You really think it’ll double in size? And when you say clean up I know someone earlier said the weaker colas that won’t amount to much but what about fan leaves do I keep the bigger ones and trim off all the really small ones growing out of the stem or vice versa? Sorry if that’s a stupid question just chopping things off these plants stresses me out up to now I haven’t been timing anything that wasn’t yellowing or damaged and obviously needed removing
 

BenGman

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It will definitely double or so , look at turbo's pics because, in another 6 weeks of his grow its going to be allot more thicker, not much taller tho , but it's not fighting for light.

Yes the weak lower colas at the bottom should go to give you more energy to the tops and plenty of air flow, which is important for this strain, personally I've never worried about humidity... I'd only worry if it was getting too hot and I was noticing leaf damage..but that has only ever happened once when I was pushing it to the limit, and backed off... A good thing having your low humidity tho is when they are filling out being in the 40% range for humidity would be ideal as you probably know b cause it is highly susceptible to bud rot...these buds grow dense like rock I check on them almost everyday praying to the weed gods they all good:))

Good choice in strain, definitely one of my favourites..

I only remove leaf's by plucking one here and there when it's getting too thick and bushy...to get more light down there, is a good thing with no negative effects.
When they ripening reduce the light level and heat the best you can.. because it will easily burn trichs and cause foxtails...the second you see these signs, back off and let her do her thing.
 
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Pandora91

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It will definitely double or so , look at turbo's pics because, in another 6 weeks of his grow its going to be allot more thicker, not much taller tho , but it's not fighting for light.

Yes the weak lower colas at the bottom should go to give you more energy to the tops and plenty of air flow, which is important for this strain, personally I've never worried about humidity... I'd only worry if it was getting too hot and I was noticing leaf damage..but that has only ever happened once when I was pushing it to the limit, and backed off... A good thing having your low humidity tho is when they are filling out being in the 40% range for humidity would be ideal as you probably know b cause it is highly susceptible to bud rot...these buds grow dense like rock I check on them almost everyday praying to the weed gods they all good:))

Good choice in strain, definitely one of my favourites..

When they ripening reduce the light level and heat the best you can.. because it will easily burn trichs and cause foxtails...the second you are these signs, back off and let her do her thing.
Thank you definitely helpful! And yeah I’ve read about the bud rot with this strain so the low humidity has definitely worked to my advantage with this strain once I was able to get it consistent. With my smaller humidifier there were times where it was dropping down into like the 20-30% range which I thought was too low but I am going to try it out once I switch them to flower if I can maintain a 35-40% humidity I would definitely rather use that one as it is much smaller and would give my plants much more room to spread out.
 

Dank Bongula

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I have one of those moisture sticks that’s also how I’ve been monitoring the soil ph. I water when it reads the soil is dry but not like completely dry like the meter shows dry, moist and wet and I watered when it goes down to about the halfway point in the dry section if that makes sense. And yea that’s what I’ve read about gdp is the stretch on it isn’t nearly as much as most people assume and that’s why I figured I could let it be in veg for a while longer because I think I’d still have room at the top of my tent if I flipped now and I wanna try to utilize all the space but I’m running out of room width wise
You need to decrease the frequency of how you water and stop with the 1 gal flushes.
Take a 7 gal pot and fill it with dirt...when your plant feels like it weighs pretty much the same, that is when you should water. Get rid of that moisture meter, it is not helping you. Don't go by a knuckle or two deep in the top soil either, that is exposed to air and dries out quicker.

Continue feeding how you were, but without the flushing. You're flushing the nutes out of your soil and when you flip to flower you're gonna get hit with deficiencies badly because their demand is going to go up.
 

turbobuzz

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I have one of those moisture sticks that’s also how I’ve been monitoring the soil ph. I water when it reads the soil is dry but not like completely dry like the meter shows dry, moist and wet and I watered when it goes down to about the halfway point in the dry section if that makes sense. And yea that’s what I’ve read about gdp is the stretch on it isn’t nearly as much as most people assume and that’s why I figured I could let it be in veg for a while longer because I think I’d still have room at the top of my tent if I flipped now and I wanna try to utilize all the space but I’m running out of room width wise
I would let that meter get closer to the dry side before watering if you continue to use it, but what Dank said above is good advice.
 

Pandora91

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You need to decrease the frequency of how you water and stop with the 1 gal flushes.
Take a 7 gal pot and fill it with dirt...when your plant feels like it weighs pretty much the same, that is when you should water. Get rid of that moisture meter, it is not helping you. Don't go by a knuckle or two deep in the top soil either, that is exposed to air and dries out quicker.

Continue feeding how you were, but without the flushing. You're flushing the nutes out of your soil and when you flip to flower you're gonna get hit with deficiencies badly because their demand is going to go up.
Ok definitely will do. Makes sense I’m not sure who it was on this group that was telling me I needed that 1 gal of runoff per plant every other watering or feeding but I definitely didn’t think it was helping my plants and I’m glad to have that confirmed. I’ve probably only done it twice since suggested but definitely seemed like a waste of nutrients and was making my soil way to wet. Gonna let them completely dry out the next few days and just go back to what I was doing with just a small amount of runoff
 

Dank Bongula

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Otherwise your plants look healthy...so you're doing shit right for the most part...nice work!

Keep an eye on the strength of your nutes and follow your feeding schedule...when you switch to flower they will start stretching and you will need to be mindful of the adjustments to your watering and feeding.
 

Pandora91

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I would let that meter get closer to the dry side before watering.
Good to know I was unsure of when I should water while in that dry section my thought was just to not let it get to where it was completely dry that’s why I aimed for the middle to be safe but I will start waiting until it’s drier. Up until my problems with the soil ph I wasn’t even using the meter I was just lifting the containers and I could usually fee when they needed to be watered but I think using that meter as a guide for soil moisture when I had already been doing fine was a mistake shoulda just stuck to using it for the ph
 

Pandora91

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Otherwise your plants look healthy...so you're doing shit right for the most part...nice work!

Keep an eye on the strength of your nutes and follow your feeding schedule...when you switch to flower they will start stretching and you will need to be mindful of the adjustments to your watering and feeding.
awesome! thank you so much for all the help its much appreciated
 

Dank Bongula

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Good to know I was unsure of when I should water while in that dry section my thought was just to not let it get to where it was completely dry that’s why I aimed for the middle to be safe but I will start waiting until it’s drier. Up until my problems with the soil ph I wasn’t even using the meter I was just lifting the containers and I could usually fee when they needed to be watered but I think using that meter as a guide for soil moisture when I had already been doing fine was a mistake shoulda just stuck to using it for the ph
Don't even use it for the pH. Just put it away or shitcan it. pH what is going into your soil and let the soil handle the rest.
 

Pandora91

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Don't even use it for the pH. Just put it away or shitcan it. pH what is going into your soil and let the soil handle the rest.
ok will do. I was phing everything going into it before so I’m not sure why I started having problems in the first place. I’m glad I’m back on track tho hopefully I can make it to harvest without screwing it up again because I think all did was make it worse while trying to make it better
 

Dank Bongula

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Overwatering fucks things up and looks like many other issues. You end up chasing your ass looking for problems that aren't really there.
 

Pandora91

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Ok so I’m starting to trim this thing now but I guess I’m still nervous about what I should be cutting off some stuff is easy but other things I’m not sure of like in this pic would I cut where the lines are or would I save those two shoots down just clean them up or would I cut them? And if I do cut them at what part of the plant would I allow branching lol that further up? Or are they just weak shoots that I should not keep anywhere on the plant. Hope this makes sense
 

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Pandora91

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Do not cut those

Start here and do more research, there's no rush to chop shit right now.
I’ve done tons of research watched a bunch of videos and read a bunch of articles pretty sure I’ve read the one you just sent me as well. Just hard for me to put what I’m reading into practice for instance with this branch would you just remove the twisty weird growth where I put the red line? I just know I’m gonna mess this up it’s just not clicking for me
 

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Dank Bongula

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May be easier for you to figure out after stretch. The ones that will just be suckers and the little ones that won't reach the canopy will be more obvious.
 

Pandora91

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May be easier for you to figure out after stretch. The ones that will just be suckers and the little ones that won't reach the canopy will be more obvious.
That’s what I’m thinking I trimmed as much as I felt comfortable with today gonna wait a few days like someone else suggested and flip it to flower hopefully after it stretches things will become more obvious to me. Everything I’ve read has said newbies should stay away from trimming so that’s what I’ve been doing but then everyone said I needed to do it and idk why I thought I could take that on when feel like I have no idea what I’m doing when it comes to what to take off and what not to.
 

Dank Bongula

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Don't sweat it....strains are different and grow in slightly different structures.... there's so much variation and maybe the next one will be different. I did not like pruning and defol and trying to figure out what to chop and what not to left me confused as well. That's when I stumbled onto mainlining and unless I am running an auto, it is my preferred way to grow.
 
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