Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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There is so much shit going down at work. Email after email about mandatory vaccine. One email had a 50 question and answer response to every scenario possible if your not vaccinated and what will happen if you don’t get it or if you get sick. Then there is a town hall meeting . I am worried about disgruntled employees who might hold a grudge and seek revenge.
Many antivaxxers do seem to have a screw loose, so some fired asshole might come back to work with a gun. Mandates are coming for most working people, healthcare workers are just a bit ahead of nearly everybody else. In a month the howling will be intense as the mandates bite.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Boy that was encouraging news lol.
Mandates should be here on both sides of the border by the end of the month, or so say many experts and insiders like Fauci. I figure there will be a shit storm about it in the States where it will have the most effect, especially when the healthcare insurance companies weigh in. In Canada mandates should help to get younger working people and students vaxxed up and raise our vaxx rate to 90% by the end of fall. I figure mandates will have the biggest impact in western Canada and Ontario.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The developer of the AstraZeneca shot says the Delta variant has made herd immunity impossible because vaccinated people can still transmit the virus

Achieving herd immunity is "not a possibility" with the Delta variant, Sir Andrew Pollard said.
That is because the variant can be transmitted by vaccinated people, he said.
"We don't have anything which will stop that transmission," he said.

The Delta variant has changed the equation for achieving herd immunity, the developer of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine has said.

Speaking at a UK parliamentary meeting on Tuesday, Sir Andrew Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity at the University of Oxford, said that achieving herd immunity is "not a possibility" now that the Delta variant is circulating.

"We know very clearly with coronavirus that this current variant, the Delta variant, will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who's still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus," Pollard said.

He said it was unlikely that herd immunity will ever be reached, saying the next variant of the novel coronavirus will be "perhaps even better at transmitting in vaccinated populations."

Vaccinated people can still get the Delta variant, albeit as a milder case
Some experts had hoped that herd immunity could be reached with COVID-19, as was the case with measles, which is also highly infectious.

Many countries have achieved herd immunity with measles by vaccinating 95% of the population against it, such as the US, where endemic transmission ended in 2000. That is because once a person is vaccinated against measles, they cannot transmit the virus.

With COVID-19, vaccines still fulfill their primary role: protecting against severe disease. According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, vaccinated people who catch the Delta variant are 25 times less likely to have a severe case or die. The overwhelming majority who do catch it will have mild or no symptoms.

But growing evidence suggests that, with the Delta variant, fully vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

"We don't have anything which will stop that transmission to other people," Pollard said.

Israel is a good example of this: COVID-19 cases dropped in the country after it vaccinated about 80% of adults — prompting some to hope that it had reached herd immunity — but the Delta variant has since brought another surge of cases.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Anti-mask Tennessee parents caught on video screaming threats at fellow parents who support masks in schools

  • Anti-mask parents harassed and threatened other parents outside a school board meeting on Tuesday.
  • The Williamson County board had approved a temporary mask mandate for elementary-school students and staff.
  • "We know who you are," one man yelled at a masked parent, adding, "We will find you."
Anti-mask parents in Franklin, Tennessee, harassed and threatened parents wearing masks outside a Williamson County school board meeting on Tuesday night after it approved a temporary mask mandate for elementary-school students and staff.

A video showed a crowd of parents outside the building chanting "will not comply" and "no more masks" as pro-mask parents, some of whom were doctors and nurses, exited the building.

"We know who you are," one man yelled at a parent trying to drive out of the parking lot. "You can leave freely, but we will find you."

Another man repeatedly yelled at the same man, "You better watch out." Another held his middle finger up to the car window and screamed, "Fuck you."

A few protesters urged the group to be peaceful and insisted that the police officers attempting to control the crowd were "on our side."

"The news is trying to capture you angry," one man said. "We're going to do it the right way. We're not going to give the news what they want ... and show the people in power here how flimsy that power really is."

The man added, "We'll show them that by behaving like parents tonight."

At the crowded meeting, a diverse array of parents in one of the state's wealthiest enclaves spoke for and against the mask mandate. The parents included many physicians and other health providers who urged the board to mandate masks in order to slow the coronavirus' spread in schools and prevent closures because of outbreaks. Anti-mask parents regularly interrupted the meeting.

"There is only one enemy amongst us, and that is COVID," one parent, a pediatrician, said. "And in order to prevent its spread, we need to mask up."

In deep-red Tennessee, local school boards are empowered to make decisions about whether to require masks in schools. Williamson County's temporary mask mandate is set to expire on September 21. The state's Republican governor, Bill Lee, has so far resisted calls from the right flank of his party to prohibit schools from deciding mask policies. Tennessee has never had a statewide mask mandate.

Many Republican leaders in Tennessee have fanned the flames of the political debate over COVID-19 mitigation efforts. In one extreme example, the state government fired its top immunization official, Dr. Michelle Fiscus, last month after the health department urged teenagers to get vaccinated. Under the state's Mature Minor Doctrine, established in 1987, caregivers aren't required to have parental consent to vaccinate minors over the age of 14.

After criticism from conservative state lawmakers, the department ended its digital vaccination outreach to teenagers.

The state has one of the lowest COVID-19 vaccination rates in the country: 40% of the population is fully vaccinated, behind the national average of 50%. And it has had a surge in infections and hospitalizations as the hypercontagious Delta variant spreads.

But Tennessee is not an outlier in its politicization of the pandemic. Public-health officials across the country have been targeted, harassed, and threatened over their efforts to contain the spread of COVID-19.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Lots of new talk about Pregnant women this morning. More and more Unvaccinated Pregnant women are ending up in the hospitals very sick. No one knows yet what the baby’s are going to be like . Maybe they will have gillls or something really neat .
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HGCC

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Anti-mask Tennessee parents caught on video screaming threats at fellow parents who support masks in schools

  • Anti-mask parents harassed and threatened other parents outside a school board meeting on Tuesday.
  • The Williamson County board had approved a temporary mask mandate for elementary-school students and staff.
  • "We know who you are," one man yelled at a masked parent, adding, "We will find you."
Anti-mask parents in Franklin, Tennessee, harassed and threatened parents wearing masks outside a Williamson County school board meeting on Tuesday night after it approved a temporary mask mandate for elementary-school students and staff.

A video showed a crowd of parents outside the building chanting "will not comply" and "no more masks" as pro-mask parents, some of whom were doctors and nurses, exited the building.

"We know who you are," one man yelled at a parent trying to drive out of the parking lot. "You can leave freely, but we will find you."

Another man repeatedly yelled at the same man, "You better watch out." Another held his middle finger up to the car window and screamed, "Fuck you."

A few protesters urged the group to be peaceful and insisted that the police officers attempting to control the crowd were "on our side."

"The news is trying to capture you angry," one man said. "We're going to do it the right way. We're not going to give the news what they want ... and show the people in power here how flimsy that power really is."

The man added, "We'll show them that by behaving like parents tonight."

At the crowded meeting, a diverse array of parents in one of the state's wealthiest enclaves spoke for and against the mask mandate. The parents included many physicians and other health providers who urged the board to mandate masks in order to slow the coronavirus' spread in schools and prevent closures because of outbreaks. Anti-mask parents regularly interrupted the meeting.

"There is only one enemy amongst us, and that is COVID," one parent, a pediatrician, said. "And in order to prevent its spread, we need to mask up."

In deep-red Tennessee, local school boards are empowered to make decisions about whether to require masks in schools. Williamson County's temporary mask mandate is set to expire on September 21. The state's Republican governor, Bill Lee, has so far resisted calls from the right flank of his party to prohibit schools from deciding mask policies. Tennessee has never had a statewide mask mandate.

Many Republican leaders in Tennessee have fanned the flames of the political debate over COVID-19 mitigation efforts. In one extreme example, the state government fired its top immunization official, Dr. Michelle Fiscus, last month after the health department urged teenagers to get vaccinated. Under the state's Mature Minor Doctrine, established in 1987, caregivers aren't required to have parental consent to vaccinate minors over the age of 14.

After criticism from conservative state lawmakers, the department ended its digital vaccination outreach to teenagers.

The state has one of the lowest COVID-19 vaccination rates in the country: 40% of the population is fully vaccinated, behind the national average of 50%. And it has had a surge in infections and hospitalizations as the hypercontagious Delta variant spreads.

But Tennessee is not an outlier in its politicization of the pandemic. Public-health officials across the country have been targeted, harassed, and threatened over their efforts to contain the spread of COVID-19.

This is the sort of thing that actually makes me mad. The mask crowd needs to start hitting back at these dumb fuckers. It's stupid people that don't get anything other than might makes right, so ok, have it your way.
 

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States requesting federal help to combat latest surge in COVID-19 patients
Mississippi officials have requested the use of a military hospital ship.
Several states are requesting or beginning to discuss future asks for federal help in battling COVID-19 surges, according to a new federal document obtained by ABC News.

Mississippi, Florida and Louisiana are among those reporting staffing and hospital capacity concerns as the number of COVID-19 patients rise, according to an internal U.S. Department of Health and Human Services planning document obtained Wednesday.

Mississippi officials have requested the use of the military hospital ship USNS Comfort to help "provide potential [intensive care unit] capacity or a step-down unit for COVID-19 patients in the event COVID-19 hospitalization rise," according to the document.

A Mississippi health department official confirmed Wednesday that the state has requested that the federal government send a military hospital ship such as the USNS Comfort, which treated over 180 COVID-19 patients in New York City last year.

"We began conversations with them," Jim Craig, senior deputy and director of health protection, told reporters during a briefing. "The way that you do that is put a request in for the resource. So we have requested information about how the USNS Comfort and-or its resources could ... come and provide assistance in the state of Mississippi."

The state has also submitted a request for clinical support staff as health care facilities have "become stressed," according to the HHS document.

Mississippi officials addressed the dire situation the state's health care system is facing Wednesday, based on the case positivity and hospitalization rates in the past week.

"If we continue that trajectory, within the next five to seven to 10 days, I think we're going to see failure of the hospital system in Mississippi," Dr. Alan Jones, associate vice chancellor for clinical affairs of the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, said during a press briefing.

Seventy of the hospital's employees are currently in quarantine, and the medical center will be setting up a field hospital in one of its basements, hospital officials said.

Statewide, 920 more health care workers are needed amid a labor shortage, according to Gov. Tate Reeves.

"Honestly, the real challenge is NOT the physical beds -- hospital beds or ICU beds. The challenge is our hospitals may not have an adequate number of health care professionals (docs, nurses, respiratory therapists, etc.) to staff those beds," he wrote in a lengthy Facebook post on the state's COVID-19 situation

Elsewhere across the country, Alabama, Georgia and Oklahoma officials are working to request or are considering requesting staffing support, and Arizona officials have requested over two dozen nurses to assist at Kingman Regional Medical Center in Mohave County, according to the HHS document.

Seems Sturgis is having a good effect on South Dakota.
 

schuylaar

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States requesting federal help to combat latest surge in COVID-19 patients
Mississippi officials have requested the use of a military hospital ship.
Several states are requesting or beginning to discuss future asks for federal help in battling COVID-19 surges, according to a new federal document obtained by ABC News.

Mississippi, Florida and Louisiana are among those reporting staffing and hospital capacity concerns as the number of COVID-19 patients rise, according to an internal U.S. Department of Health and Human Services planning document obtained Wednesday.

Mississippi officials have requested the use of the military hospital ship USNS Comfort to help "provide potential [intensive care unit] capacity or a step-down unit for COVID-19 patients in the event COVID-19 hospitalization rise," according to the document.

A Mississippi health department official confirmed Wednesday that the state has requested that the federal government send a military hospital ship such as the USNS Comfort, which treated over 180 COVID-19 patients in New York City last year.

"We began conversations with them," Jim Craig, senior deputy and director of health protection, told reporters during a briefing. "The way that you do that is put a request in for the resource. So we have requested information about how the USNS Comfort and-or its resources could ... come and provide assistance in the state of Mississippi."

The state has also submitted a request for clinical support staff as health care facilities have "become stressed," according to the HHS document.

Mississippi officials addressed the dire situation the state's health care system is facing Wednesday, based on the case positivity and hospitalization rates in the past week.

"If we continue that trajectory, within the next five to seven to 10 days, I think we're going to see failure of the hospital system in Mississippi," Dr. Alan Jones, associate vice chancellor for clinical affairs of the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, said during a press briefing.

Seventy of the hospital's employees are currently in quarantine, and the medical center will be setting up a field hospital in one of its basements, hospital officials said.

Statewide, 920 more health care workers are needed amid a labor shortage, according to Gov. Tate Reeves.

"Honestly, the real challenge is NOT the physical beds -- hospital beds or ICU beds. The challenge is our hospitals may not have an adequate number of health care professionals (docs, nurses, respiratory therapists, etc.) to staff those beds," he wrote in a lengthy Facebook post on the state's COVID-19 situation

Elsewhere across the country, Alabama, Georgia and Oklahoma officials are working to request or are considering requesting staffing support, and Arizona officials have requested over two dozen nurses to assist at Kingman Regional Medical Center in Mohave County, according to the HHS document.

Seems Sturgis is having a good effect on South Dakota.
Florida too on the down low; seems DeSantis was the last to know.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Feel like I’m back in the same Pandemic mode I was at work this time last year. Collegues are getting sick and you only hear about it in the break room and you have to guess they are out with Covid or you hear rumors until they get back. One of our financial guys is out indefinitely. No one is talking about contact tracing but unlike last year when you could get a Covid test anywhere easily.... here, now, there isn’t any testing going on or it’s practically impossible to find a place. If you do the lines are very very long plus they got rid of any Covid related PTO, so if you need to work because you need the money and they aren’t going to help out? What is one to do....I imagine many will be returning infected and spreading the virus ten fold. What a wonderful cheap shit organization .
 

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Delta Plus Is in the News Again, Here's Why
— The variant encompasses three sublineages, but experts are not worried yet

Experts maintain that these sublineages aren't a threat just yet.

What made Delta Plus (originally known as B.1.617.2.1, now called AY.1) so concerning was that it had the K417N mutation, which led to a key change in the spike protein that's been associated with resistance to monoclonal antibody therapies.

Now, AY.1 and two others -- AY.2 and AY.3 -- are all labeled variants of concern by both the CDC and the WHO, and they continue to be monitored within the original Delta category.

According to CDC's COVID Data Tracker, the original Delta variant is estimated to account for 83.4% of all COVID infections in the U.S. as of July 31. While the estimated prevalences for AY.1 (0.1%) and AY.2 (0.8%) remain small, AY.3 accounts for an estimated 9.1% of infections, according to the tracker.

But the sublineages aren't raising too many alarm bells among experts just yet. British epidemiologist Colin Angus, BSc, MSc, told the Washington Post, "To date, there is no clear evidence that it conveys enough of a benefit to the virus to allow it to dominate the original Delta variant. So although it is clearly here, there is no obvious sign that it has gained a foothold over existing variants of the virus."

The individuals have it in my province, let's hope it is short lived.
 
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