Is Sen. Manchin really a Democrat?

Is Joe Manchin really a Democrat?

  • No

    Votes: 8 80.0%
  • Yes

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Total voters
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injinji

Well-Known Member
Change is slow. My little county in NW Florida has more registered Dems. In fact I think this last election cycle was the first time since Reconstruction that we had elected anyone with a R beside their name. But most of those, at least the white folks, vote republican in state and national elections. My parent's generation still blamed Lincoln (and the republicans) for freeing the slaves.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
do you see what they did? you fell into their trap and let them divide you. your post (and this thread) reeks of it. whatever you're reading or listening to certainly did it's job..btw did you forget the Russians? they just fvcked you bigly Jim.

go get your booster; go home put music on and start preparing dinner; leave governing up to those who are..

i love you:hug:
1st off I love/like you very much also (where do you live, maybe we can arrange something :) )
2nd point is that I read/listen a lot to different viewpoints, even if they make me nauseous examples being Fox/Washington Examiner.
I make my own determination from what I observe & I think AOC & Sanders want too much/too soon.
1st achieve base ambitions, then move forward & then develop further.
I want the same things as you probably/undoubtedly, but I know when to attack & when to hold back and let my opponent fuck up 1st. (boxing taught me that)
The "Progressives" are putting every wish they have 1st, not understanding it seems that the US is a Capitalist society fearful of rapid change & Socialism
What they are presenting to the really, really stupid Americans (Trump understood that, loving the uneducated fools who voted him in, would be his ace card in the hole.)
Sanders (he should know better) is too much of a Dreamer.
AOC & her buddies should understand that also.
Both are fucking Biden, which will be counterproductive in the end.
That's what I think :)
Did you get your vaccination?
I did but chose J&J and I'm waiting now for a booster, which they haven't made yet & that makes me kinda nervous.
Bye :)
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
1st off I love/like you very much also (where do you live, maybe we can arrange something :) )
2nd point is that I read/listen a lot to different viewpoints, even if they make me nauseous examples being Fox/Washington Examiner.
I make my own determination from what I observe & I think AOC & Sanders want too much/too soon.
1st achieve base ambitions, then move forward & then develop further.
I want the same things as you probably/undoubtedly, but I know when to attack & when to hold back and let my opponent fuck up 1st. (boxing taught me that)
The "Progressives" are putting every wish they have 1st, not understanding it seems that the US is a Capitalist society fearful of rapid change & Socialism
What they are presenting to the really, really stupid Americans (Trump understood that, loving the uneducated fools who voted him in, would be his ace card in the hole.)
Sanders (he should know better) is too much of a Dreamer.
AOC & her buddies should understand that also.
Both are fucking Biden, which will be counterproductive in the end.
That's what I think :)
Did you get your vaccination?
I did but chose J&J and I'm waiting now for a booster, which they haven't made yet & that makes me kinda nervous.
Bye :)
This is Biden's Agenda..the Progressive 'wish' is what the President ran on..you have been radicalized, Jim and can't even see it.
 

CatHedral

Well-Known Member
This is Biden's Agenda..the Progressive 'wish' is what the President ran on..you have been radicalized, Jim and can't even see it.
My perception is that Biden ran a campaign pointed a bit further right at the centrists. The Progressives are obstructing his plan to rehabilitate government and reverse the layered sabotage left behind by his predecessors. If the Progressive caucus would wholly back his center agenda, they would be in better shape going forward to pitch their hopes for a bit more social democracy favorably to executives and legislators.
 

CatHedral

Well-Known Member
My christpublican friends thinks that center has shifted way left, where Biden is.
They have a point. It is no longer possible to be a centrist and a Republican. It was once, but then Reagan. And the privateers who came after him.

From the GOP’s current siege mentality perspective, old-school centrists like myself are America’s Far Left. But all this is branding, not fact.
 
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StonedGardener

Well-Known Member
No offense, but it's usually the people pretending like they don't know who hillbillies are.
No offense, but it's usually the people pretending like they don't know who hillbillies are.
( Hillbillys)...your deductive reasoning is astounding.....ya got me.......your a Mensa dude,no doubt. Your highly evolved acumen is undeniable. Your eloquent syntax and pith are rare indeed ( I read many of your insightful posts). Your contempt and degrading remark for a different culture ( poverty stricken in very many cases) is truly compassionate....... commendable. A universal citizen you are.
 

laddyd

Well-Known Member
I think he is part of the true deep state,an economic cartel run by the 1% of the 1%.
Definitely not a democrat.
 

Herb & Suds

Well-Known Member
( Hillbillys)...your deductive reasoning is astounding.....ya got me.......your a Mensa dude,no doubt. Your highly evolved acumen is undeniable. Your eloquent syntax and pith are rare indeed ( I read many of your insightful posts). Your contempt and degrading remark for a different culture ( poverty stricken in very many cases) is truly compassionate....... commendable. A universal citizen you are.
Ahh now you're making him sound like todays Republican :spew:
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
C'mon meow, when we're this deep in the post-2016 world and someone asks, "what's a hillbilly/redneck/trumptard/etc", it's because they're offended.

It's a leading question no matter how you slice it. Skip the games and get to the point.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
When two f'ing people can obstruct what the whole Caucus wants (-2), what the majority of people want and what Biden wants, something is very wrong.
I can't overlook the fifty Republican senators. What I really want are fewer Republicans in the Senate. I think that path is more likely to succeed than focusing on two outlier Democratic Party Senators.

The authoritarian right are what is wrong. They are the ones putting this country at risk.

Manchin and Sinema are not like them. I'm OK with them being on the Democratic caucus. If they lose a primary and a better Democrat is chosen then I'm for that too. I'm for democracy. The people in Arizona and W Va voted for them and I expect senators from my state to work with them.
 
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