Stupid question about “flowering stage weeks”.

Geeked

Member
Sorry if this has been asked but I need more clarification. When a strain is said to have flowering 8-9 weeks. What does that mean exactly? Is it 8-9 weeks from the time the first pair of leaves are shown or 8-9 weeks additional starting when you change your light from 16+ hours to 12 or less hours of light? Because I’ve read and found both answers.
 

xtsho

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It doesn't matter when you start counting. The plant will finish when it finishes. I wouldn't pay too much attention to stated flower times as they are usually not accurate and most plants that are said to be 8 weeks end up taking 10 weeks or more.

Don't mark a harvest date on a calendar based off of some number of weeks in a description.
 

Riddick65

Member
I agree with Xt, those numbers are usually useless, and they're always vague. Some count from the time you change the lights to 12-12, some count from when you actually start to see pistils forming, but either way, they're hardly ever accurate. I add two weeks to every estimate, and that's still usually a little short.
 

Failmore

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What he said. Breeder times are a generalization. They grow a bunch of plants and maybe 1 of them finishes in 8 weeks. So they say...hey it is an 8 week strain. Maybe 1 has 26% thc. So wow... It is an 8 week 26% now even though those plants were different.

99% of the time you will go longer than breeder. Takes a grow or 2 but you will learn the plant cycles and how to read them.

Unfortunately we can not look at a breeder time and assume our plants will harvest anywhere close to that number. I got some autos on 16 weeks. Breeder time is 9-10.
 

budman111

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Sorry if this has been asked but I need more clarification. When a strain is said to have flowering 8-9 weeks. What does that mean exactly? Is it 8-9 weeks from the time the first pair of leaves are shown or 8-9 weeks additional starting when you change your light from 16+ hours to 12 or less hours of light? Because I’ve read and found both answers.
IME, when a plant is grown in near perfect conditions, a strong Indica genetics strain will finish flowering 10-11 from 12/12 switch.
 

Herb & Suds

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When starting from seed
Use breeder time to know when to plant next seeds
About the actual time that plant is ready to harvest the next batch will be ready to flower
Point is most flower times are 3 months
I’ll get flamed from some saying they have sixty day phenos…
But in general plants being harvestable and being finished are two different things
Plan on 12 weeks always and never be disappointed
 

Geeked

Member
I know to not use the “weeks” given as each flower matured faster than the rest due to light. Of course the ones closer to light will mature faster. I just use that weeks info as a guide and will harvest based on plant appearance but so it’s actually 8-9 weeks additional? So depending on how long you keep it in veg, it can actually take 5-6 months?
 

Geeked

Member
IME, when a plant is grown in near perfect conditions, a strong Indica genetics strain will finish flowering 10-11 from 12/12 switch.
Thanks! So yeah additional. Because reason why I asked is because I was reading on nutes and ppm and one of the chart pretty much says that a cannabis plant will be ready to harvest in 8-9 weeks from start to finish. 1-2 weeks for seedling, 3-4 weeks for veg and 3-4 weeks for flowering, totaling around 9-10 weeks.
 

Herb & Suds

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I know to not use the “weeks” given as each flower matured faster than the rest due to light. Of course the ones closer to light will mature faster. I just use that weeks info as a guide and will harvest based on plant appearance but so it’s actually 8-9 weeks additional? So depending on how long you keep it in veg, it can actually take 5-6 months?
Closer to the light does not reduce flower time
Thanks! So yeah additional. Because reason why I asked is because I was reading on nutes and ppm and one of the chart pretty much says that a cannabis plant will be ready to harvest in 8-9 weeks from start to finish. 1-2 weeks for seedling, 3-4 weeks for veg and 3-4 weeks for flowering, totaling around 9-10 weeks.
None of this is correct

Not sure where yo are getting your info?
 

budman111

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Thanks! So yeah additional. Because reason why I asked is because I was reading on nutes and ppm and one of the chart pretty much says that a cannabis plant will be ready to harvest in 8-9 weeks from start to finish. 1-2 weeks for seedling, 3-4 weeks for veg and 3-4 weeks for flowering, totaling around 9-10 weeks.
Never believe them, for eg., AN says if you use their base nutes then the plant is ready to harvest in SEVEN weeks!!! Only nubes fall for this rhetoric and severely damage yield weight but does the owner care?
 

Geeked

Member
thanks guys! Yeah this is my first grow and supposedly I am doing GDP and they aren’t purple yet but people says they don’t turn until 6 weeks of flowering but they were started and first pair of leaves were back in end of July. So that would make them more than 8-9 weeks for flowering based on what the breeder claims lol. And I’ve even drop temp 15 degrees lower at night. But to me, some looks like they ready to harvest but they are no where near purple lol.
 

Herb & Suds

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thanks guys! Yeah this is my first grow and supposedly I am doing GDP and they aren’t purple yet but people says they don’t turn until 6 weeks of flowering but they were started and first pair of leaves were back in end of July. So that would make them more than 8-9 weeks for flowering based on what the breeder claims lol. And I’ve even drop temp 15 degrees lower at night. But to me, some looks like they ready to harvest but they are no where near purple lol.
You can turn any plant purple with a 20 f drop between lights on and off

The majority of GDP phenos are green
 

PopAndSonGrows

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I dug into this quite a bit when I first started. First & foremost what's been stated is fundamentally correct; it's done when it's done.

However. . . ..it seems "count from flip" and "count from first sign of pistils" varies per grower, per breeder, hell even per phenotype. ... I count from flip. I just pick that & consistently use it for my own calculations and logs.
 

Failmore

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Thanks! So yeah additional. Because reason why I asked is because I was reading on nutes and ppm and one of the chart pretty much says that a cannabis plant will be ready to harvest in 8-9 weeks from start to finish. 1-2 weeks for seedling, 3-4 weeks for veg and 3-4 weeks for flowering, totaling around 9-10 weeks.
This is what people say for autos but in reality it is not the truth. If you harvest on that schedule buds will not be mature. But yes in theory you can harvest...just you should not.
 

Geeked

Member
I'm trying to help here but you seem argumentative :roll:
Well I actually don’t know if it does but to me, it seems that the buds closer and up top,(on my plant) has the darker hairs and far more cloudy trics and of course bigger than the ones at bottom… that’s how I came to that conclusion
 
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