Cloning

Nice-guy-eddy

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Any advice or tips on getting better results getting roots formed on clones. I am using ro water and I have a aeroponics and dwc set up. I'm not getting good results lately...kinda started when I started using ro water.
 

myke

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Tried hydro cloning never could get them all to root at the same time.Switched back to rockwool and domes and things are much easier.All root and stay healthy, no fuss and nothing plugged in.
 

zzyx

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Tried hydro cloning never could get them all to root at the same time.Switched back to rockwool and domes and things are much easier.All root and stay healthy, no fuss and nothing plugged in.
Same for me. I do use a powdered rooting compound. Pretty reliable method.
I have found giving the cuts a 24-48 hour soak in tap water helps.
 

icetech

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I made a bubblecloner and it's been one of the best things i have done.. a nice side effect is, i can keep babies in it for months if i need to and start training them while growing a big root system before moving into my dwc buckets..
 

myke

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I made a bubblecloner and it's been one of the best things i have done.. a nice side effect is, i can keep babies in it for months if i need to and start training them while growing a big root system before moving into my dwc buckets..
I had good luck when I first started mine,just seamed as time went by it was less productive.It held 10 clones,3 would root in 7 days the others would take between 14-21 days.They stayed green at least.
 

Drop That Sound

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Check out "air layering". It will drastically improve your success rate. Even with hard to clone strains. The ancients have been doing it for 10s of thousands of years.

You can take as big of clones as you want. I've rooted clones over 3 ft tall. My freshly cut/rooted clones are usually bigger than the plants most people start flowering, lol.

Ever since trying it, i'll never look back. All my DWC/Aero/fogponic/you name it cloners just sit collecting dust. My entire high tech propagation center pretty much unused.

You can literally keep vegging the clone as its still hooked to the plant. No worries about it shriveling. Even if your air layers medium dried out, the branch will heal itself again.

I even hook up an IV bag to the moms, and gravity drip to each air layer through a multi port manifold hanging from the IV bag (my buddies mom was a nurse and i got hooked up). That way I'm not having to water them with an industrial syringe everyday.

I've even cut pots, taped them back together around the branch, and filled with coco. Kept the plants hooked up to the mother plant and vegged them out for a few extra weeks before cutting away.


Also, I'm pretty sure they would consider your mother plant with all the clones attached as one plant. Multiple root systems but still the same plant. Kind of a grey area in the laws for some states. Meaning, you can keep your plant count down while still having a fresh batch of clones ready to replace with, without having all the extra plants. Big clones too, like almost ready to flip ones. Whatever size you want, just try not to take more than 50% of the mother plant at once.

I've saved 75% of massive DWC plants with root rot, by turning it into a bunch of smaller plants, right before it would die anyway.
 

Treesomewanted77

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I do my cloning in a humidity dome with cloneX gel and then I dip them into rooting powder over the gel then I put them in a rooting plug and stick the whole plug and cutting in a small plastic shot glass with holes in bottom. I wet the plug and then I mist the leaves twice a day and I get roots in 5-7 days and 100% success rate. They root quicker with a heat pad under the dome to keep them warm. I tried a cloner with misting nozzles and it took twice as long to get roots. This method works for me and I can make a bunch at once this way. Yes it does take a little longer to get them all set in the dome compared to a cloner machine but my success rate went to 100%. Ive turned a couple buddies onto this method from cloning machines and they have had great success too.
 

visajoe1

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cut clone at 45 degree angle, dip in clone gel, insert into wet plug, place into humidity dome under low intensity light. water the plugs every few days. transplant in 7 days.
 

Herb & Suds

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Any advice or tips on getting better results getting roots formed on clones. I am using ro water and I have a aeroponics and dwc set up. I'm not getting good results lately...kinda started when I started using ro water.
Key to always getting great roots is cleaning all equipment
Bleach is your friend and pool shock a granule or two per gallon can help you avoid the dreaded “cloner slowed down “ blues :bigjoint:
R/o water and no other additives works every time
 

Nice-guy-eddy

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Key to always getting great roots is cleaning all equipment
Bleach is your friend and pool shock a granule or two per gallon can help you avoid the dreaded “cloner slowed down “ blues :bigjoint:
R/o water and no other additives works every time
I actually took your advice from an earlier thread and put just a really small pinch of shock to my resevoir with ro water and cleaned my equipment with hydrogen peroxide before I added my clones. I hope they perk back up. It's only been one day since I put them in the cloner.
 

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Herb & Suds

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First I wouldn’t take clones from unhealthy plants
All that leaf burn is already looking like it’s been abused
Second it looks like you missed a step or two
When I first take a cut I immediately submerse it in water to stop any chance of an air bubble in stem
I am guessing some how you also manipulated water temps to high
In an attempt to salvage that
I would take a razor blade and cut an angled cut on each of those and then mist with plain water once a day for a day or two and hope they perk up
Make sure they are all tucked into the cloner pucks deep as possible
And why is that cut on the left stuck under the puck? bongsmilie
 

Horselover fat

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All I ever do is cut in very shallow angle, stick in a moistened peat puck, shine a small light at them 24/7 and wait. Close to 100% succes rate. I would use a fancier system if I needed 100s of clones regularly.
 

potpimp

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Not saying that I'm an expert grower, but I have cloning dialed in to nearly 100% success. Prepare a bucket or bowl of water (maybe 3" deep), your scalpel, cloning powder or solution, and your cloning tray / medium (I use Rapid Rooter plugs) / the tray cover, and a heating mat. Add an inch or so of water to the tray. VERY important: check the temp after a few hours to make sure the heat mat doesn't burn your plants. When you've got all your stuff together, Cut a few (at the time) branches. They don't need to be over 8-10". Cut or pinch off any small growth except for the top few leaves. Trim off about half of each leaf; cut the end of the stem on a 45 degree angle and drop it in the water. Take one out at the time and dip it in the cloning stuff and place it in the medium and put it in the cloning tray. Rinse and repeat til you get as many as you want, and maybe a few more so you can pick the hardiest ones. Put the lid on the tray and a low powered light above it; it doesn't need much, maybe one of those "blurple" cheapie LED lights that everyone bought years ago and paid way too much for.

This past spring I bought 3 Colombian Gold landrace seeds. I germed them for 3 days and When I unfolded the paper towel (sealed in a baggie and laid on top of the warm fridge), one of them had a 4" tap root!! See pic attached. I took 6 clones and harvested 9 photo plants in October. I also took about 50 clones just before they flipped into flower. I thinned out the shorter ones, leaving about 30 plants. I just chopped 10 of them last night and leaving the rest for a few more weeks. I have two Kratky boxes like the one in the last photo.
 

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Treesomewanted77

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Not saying that I'm an expert grower, but I have cloning dialed in to nearly 100% success. Prepare a bucket or bowl of water (maybe 3" deep), your scalpel, cloning powder or solution, and your cloning tray / medium (I use Rapid Rooter plugs) / the tray cover, and a heating mat. Add an inch or so of water to the tray. VERY important: check the temp after a few hours to make sure the heat mat doesn't burn your plants. When you've got all your stuff together, Cut a few (at the time) branches. They don't need to be over 8-10". Cut or pinch off any small growth except for the top few leaves. Trim off about half of each leaf; cut the end of the stem on a 45 degree angle and drop it in the water. Take one out at the time and dip it in the cloning stuff and place it in the medium and put it in the cloning tray. Rinse and repeat til you get as many as you want, and maybe a few more so you can pick the hardiest ones. Put the lid on the tray and a low powered light above it; it doesn't need much, maybe one of those "blurple" cheapie LED lights that everyone bought years ago and paid way too much for.

This past spring I bought 3 Colombian Gold landrace seeds. I germed them for 3 days and When I unfolded the paper towel (sealed in a baggie and laid on top of the warm fridge), one of them had a 4" tap root!! See pic attached. I took 6 clones and harvested 9 photo plants in October. I also took about 50 clones just before they flipped into flower. I thinned out the shorter ones, leaving about 30 plants. I just chopped 10 of them last night and leaving the rest for a few more weeks. I have two Kratky boxes like the one in the last photo.
This almost identical to how I do it and have great success. I started taking 2-3 cuts of each one just in case some didn’t take and I ended up with all taking so now I only do the amount I want so I’m not wasting any
 
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