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Roger A. Shrubber

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I’m triple vaxed, and I’m back to full PPE mode. Omicron scares me. What scares me more is that Pi could be out there, just not yet described.
i'm sure it is, omicron infects at 70 times the rate of delta, it's already proven that it's adept at mutation, there's probably already rho, sigma, tau and upsilon....just cooking away in some remote area waiting for the next spoiled white tourist to come condescend to the natives, so they can hitch a ride
 

CatHedral

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i'm sure it is, omicron infects at 70 times the rate of delta, it's already proven that it's adept at mutation, there's probably already rho, sigma, tau and upsilon....just cooking away in some remote area waiting for the next spoiled white tourist to come condescend to the natives, so they can hitch a ride
White tourist not required. Belt and Road functionary will do.
 

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DIY-HP-LED

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Bad news, get boosted ASAP and wear a mask. It might be time for an updated booster... If this is true winter is gonna be tough in Canada.
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UPDATE 1-Omicron more likely to reinfect than Delta, no milder -study

* Omicron five times likelier to cause reinfections

* No sign milder than Delta, but some say too early to know

* Two-dose vaccines offer little or no Omicron protection (Adds detail, reaction, quotes, context)

By Clara-Laeila Laudette

Dec 17 (Reuters) - The risk of reinfection with the Omicron coronavirus variant is more than five times higher and it has shown no sign of being milder than Delta, a study showed, as cases soar across Europe and threaten year-end festivities.

The results of the study by Imperial College London were based on UK Health Security Agency and National Health Service data on people who tested positive for COVID-19 in a PCR test in England between Nov. 29 and Dec. 11.

"We find no evidence (for both risk of hospitalisation attendance and symptom status) of Omicron having different severity from Delta," the study said, although it added that data on hospitalisations remains very limited.

"Controlling for vaccine status, age, sex, ethnicity, asymptomatic status, region and specimen date, Omicron was associated with a 5.4-fold higher risk of reinfection compared with Delta," the study, which was dated Dec. 16, added.

The protection afforded by past infection against reinfection with Omicron may be as low as 19%, Imperial College (ICL) said in a statement, noting that the study had not yet been peer reviewed.

The researchers found a significantly increased risk of developing a symptomatic Omicron case compared to Delta for those who were two or more weeks past their second vaccine dose, and two or more weeks past their booster dose.

The study involved AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines.

Depending on the estimates used for vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic infection from the Delta variant, this translates into vaccine effectiveness of between 0% and 20% after two doses, and between 55% and 80% after a booster dose.

"This study provides further evidence of the very substantial extent to which Omicron can evade prior immunity given by both infection or vaccination," study lead Professor Neil Ferguson said in ICL's statement.

"This level of immune evasion means that Omicron poses a major, imminent threat to public health." ...
 

Fogdog

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"There is a huge amount of uncertainty in these modelled estimates and we can only be confident about the impact of boosters against Omicron when we have another month of real-world data on hospitalisation ICU numbers and deaths," he said.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"There is a huge amount of uncertainty in these modelled estimates and we can only be confident about the impact of boosters against Omicron when we have another month of real-world data on hospitalisation ICU numbers and deaths," he said.
Still early and lot's of conflicting information, situation normal! Err on the side of caution methinks, boost, wear a mask and let em sort it out.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I feel better about our decision to stay put, now.
They were showing the charts on infections with omicron compared to delta, the line for omicron goes straight up, exponential growth. We won't know how bad it is in terms of virulence for awhile and how bad it gets in numbers until January. I dunno if you'd be allowed to travel to NB in a week and you could even get struck there if borders shut down again.
 

Budley Doright

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probably with one guy, maybe a vacationer coming home with extra souvenirs, or someone who has been out of town on business, then came back, walked through a factory floor, sat at a board meeting, went to the grocery store...
Or it was more likely a university student who went home to one of the international gateways then came back and was dancing around in the streets with 3000 others fuckheads in the midst of a pandemic. Or the Canada university rugby tournament they held here …, then went partying in one of the many bars that didn’t enforce any of the rules….but it was bound to happen at some point i guess. Just gives a spot light on how fast and ugly this is gonna get across the globe. 3 weeks ago we had like 10 cases. 80 % of new cases are 18-29 group :(.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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I finally got my booster appointment for Jan 18th, I'm not due until the first week of January anyway. News about omicron ain't good, it's spreading like wildfire, is as contagious as chicken pox and the cases don't appear to be any milder as first reported.
We have omicron here in NS, so I figure it's best to lay low until a couple of weeks after I'm boosted. I figure the hospitals will have enough to deal with and I don't need to add to the burden!
 

schuylaar

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I love me some good religious mythology.
so do i that's why i love talking about it however you can't deny facts even if they are unexplained. the fact here is there is something happening around the world YTs of this really loud sound some say trumpet-like; can last for minutes to hours. nobody seems to know WTF it is so sound engineers have been trying to figure this out; they figured out it's 3 notes drawn out very long; if it's sped up it's recognizable to us.
You should have stopped at the 1st bowl.
Which is it, dust or meth.?
Gotta be dust.
Oh, & the Bible & Michael?
I don't like fairy tales.
Is The Hobbit a fairy tale?
I liked that
:)
well that was a cunt of an answer- thanks for the debate, friend.
 

schuylaar

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I finally got my booster appointment for Jan 18th, I'm not due until the first week of January anyway. News about omicron ain't good, it's spreading like wildfire, is as contagious as chicken pox and the cases don't appear to be any milder as first reported.
We have omicron here in NS, so I figure it's best to lay low until a couple of weeks after I'm boosted. I figure the hospitals will have enough to deal with and I don't need to add to the burden!
you are safer at home- guaranteed, but a word about chicken pox and you know how contagious it is? i didn't get it until freshman year of high school. you get it from the liquid of the pox recipient touching with pox fluid on their hands.

not certain how i escaped it for so long.
 

CunningCanuk

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They were showing the charts on infections with omicron compared to delta, the line for omicron goes straight up, exponential growth. We won't know how bad it is in terms of virulence for awhile and how bad it gets in numbers until January. I dunno if you'd be allowed to travel to NB in a week and you could even get struck there if borders shut down again.
Yes, that was part of our decision too. If they go into phase 2 we would be stuck there.

NS is getting bad for cases too. Stay safe.
 
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