Should the US shed blood for Ukraine

Should the USA along with NATO defend Ukraine with troops.

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 40.4%

  • No

    Votes: 59 59.6%
  • Total voters
    99
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Rob Roy said:
Shifting where the stolen money is spent is one idea.
Another idea is not to create the debt in the first place. It only enables the people "creating new money" and profiteering behind most wars.

Agreed, foreign bases and war machines, aren't something I support. Let's end that shit. Cui bono?

There's no such thing as a free college solution though, an increase in devalued degrees is no indication of an actual education rise in the populace. Supply and demand. An everyone gets a trophy, look, look, there's my "free college" degree is a feel good idea. Don't listen when Bernie Sanders whispers his economic theories to you again. okay?

End poverty? As in raise the standard of living of people? I thought that was my job to do for myself and your job to do for yourself? You're not a commie confusing actual charity with forcible redistribution are you ?
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So we shouldn’t help people who may be struggling? Watch our neighbors starve and struggle? How “American” of you :roll: While we send money and ammunition to other countries to watch them kill each other
 
Mr_X

Mr_X

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America was founded by immigrants seeking new land away from Great Britain Rule for freedom, liberty, and justice. I say we help Ukraine from Russian Rule for the same reasons. Imagine calling yourself an american nationalist when you don't stand by your own principles. Lets not be assholes.
 
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Rurumo

Rurumo

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Sad to see this kind of 20th Century Imperialism is still alive and well. Russia just set a precedent for China to begin gobbling up its neighbors as well. They are using the old Imperial Japanese excuse that it's not a colony if you make it a part of the "fatherland." Average Russians seem legitimately surprised that Putin has gone this batshit crazy during his 2 year isolation. He and Trump bonded over being germaphobes, but Trump is the kind of germaphobe that doesn't like to shake hands and makes sure his prostitutes are well tested, while Putin is an actual bubble boy. Covid's biggest impact, besides a million dead, is this invasion of Ukraine.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Wattzzup said:
So we shouldn’t help people who may be struggling? Watch our neighbors starve and struggle? How “American” of you :roll: While we send money and ammunition to other countries to watch them kill each other
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My preference is to help people, how I can, when I can and when I decide to. I do that all the time.

Of course if you prefer to help different people than people I want to help or you don't want to help others at all, that's your business.

It's not your business to forcibly redistribute money that other people own though. You don't have the right to, therefore you couldn't possibly delegate that nonexistent right to some other people to do, without exposing your hypocrisy. If you do that, you'll need to keep the ammo for your hired thugs to use on people you're okay with robbing.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Mr_X said:
America was founded by immigrants seeking new land away from Great Britain Rule for freedom, liberty, and justice. I say we help Ukraine from Russian Rule for the same reasons. Imagine calling yourself an american nationalist when you don't stand by your own principles. Lets not be assholes.
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When will your platoon be shipping out ?
 
Sativied

Sativied

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Rurumo said:
Covid's biggest impact, besides a million dead, is this invasion of Ukraine.
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If anything covid delayed what would have happened regardless.

Second time I see you mentioned this behavior is inspired by Japanese imperialism. It’s like two tribes on the opposite side of the world drawing a sun on a rock and saying one copied the other. Long before Japanese imperialism there were Alexander the Great and Ceasar who had similar ideas when it came to incorporating other areas into the empire.
 
Friendly_Grower

Friendly_Grower

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YAWN...

Now that I have slept and rose with the Sun I see Ukraine is fighting back.
I see they took out some Aircraft, a Convoy and I'm watching them get ready for the fourth night of terror there.
Men 18 to 60 cannot leave Ukraine as President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has declared Martial Law.
They are handing out Guns to anyone who will take one.

Ukrainian Air Force is still intact.
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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The german chancellor has now recanted the initial stance of "only funding Ukraine via money" by allowing to send weapons, armoured vehicles & gasoline into Ukraine via 3rd party nations

www.br.de

Ereignisse im Russland-Ukraine-Krieg im Rückblick KW 11

Alle Entwicklungen, Reaktionen und Informationen vom 14. bis 20. März 2022 zum Russland-Ukraine-Krieg finden Sie hier im Rückblick.
www.br.de www.br.de
 
Friendly_Grower

Friendly_Grower

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schuylaar said:
You're too late for that page, mate.:lol:

I recall a time Zelensky wouldn't get involved with American business when WE needed him to tell the TRUTH.

Godspeed Eurotrash.
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Ah but the Enemy of My Enemy is my friend.... My friend.
Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Besides Putin makes love to goats by forcing them towards water of the lake where he violates them so they will push back up on his member because they don't want to go in the water. He is a smart goat lover that Putin is. He calls that consent.
 
Friendly_Grower

Friendly_Grower

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Kassiopeija said:
The german chancellor has now recanted the initial stance of "only funding Ukraine via money" by allowing to send weapons, armoured vehicles & gasoline into Ukraine via 3rd party nations

www.br.de

Ereignisse im Russland-Ukraine-Krieg im Rückblick KW 11

Alle Entwicklungen, Reaktionen und Informationen vom 14. bis 20. März 2022 zum Russland-Ukraine-Krieg finden Sie hier im Rückblick.
www.br.de www.br.de
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In this chess game, I think they are positioning themselves (NATO) to admit Finland and Sweeden.
Do you think the same?

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In diesem Schachspiel, denke ich, positionieren sie sich (die NATO), um Finnland und Schweden zuzulassen.
Denkst du genauso?
 
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