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0potato0

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Some action from DNPR
 

injinji

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Ok let's say Florida secedes from the USA because "reasons". Then it threatens to join Collective Security Treaty Organization because "reasons" what does USA do? Crush now or let it build up?
No, the part that doesn't make sense is that no one is putting missiles in Ukraine. It's just not happening.

As for Florida, I am in favor of us doing away with birthright citizenship and building a wall from Jacksonville to Pensacola. I wouldn't kick anyone out, but if you were to leave for whatever reason, if both of your parents were not born in Florida, you could not come back. Ten or twenty years of this, and we could get back to being livable.
 

0potato0

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You seem to be falling into the same loop I'm caught in. I keep looking for good logic in all of this. Nothing makes sense in that light. The best reason out there was provided by c licker. Putin felts provoked when his demand that NATO end support for Ukraine and agree to never do it again. Provocation turned to an escalation in demands that were unanswered which led to threats that had no effect and so of course he had to invade. I have a brother like that. I still don't understand but I can recognize it. Giving him what he wants is seen as weakness by that kind of person which only leads to more demands. From what I've seen the only thing that stops somebody like that is a blow so hard they are unable to do harm again.
Its a shift in power that has caused the demands since USA navy can't go anywhere within 1000km of unstoppable russian zikron missiles which are by now on every submarine and most frigates
 

captainmorgan

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Putin claims to be holding talks. Putin claims to be liberating Russians from eastern Ukraine. Yet right now Putin is bombing apartments in Kharkiv, eastern Ukraine’s largest city — killing dozens of Russian speaking civilians.
 

0potato0

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No, the part that doesn't make sense is that no one is putting missiles in Ukraine. It's just not happening.

As for Florida, I am in favor of us doing away with birthright citizenship and building a wall from Jacksonville to Pensacola. I wouldn't kick anyone out, but if you were to leave for whatever reason, if both of your parents were not born in Florida, you could not come back. Ten or twenty years of this, and we could get back to being livable.
I think this whole thing is about money. I could be wrong but no cheap Energy for Europe is good for the USA it makes its products competitive if the USA gets to dictate the price of liquid gas so its mission accomplished for USA already
 

injinji

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Its a shift in power that has caused the demands since USA navy can't go anywhere within 1000km of unstoppable russian zikron missiles which are by now on every submarine and most frigates
If poot-poot wants to find out what real war is like, he should just sink a US Navy ship.

Extra credit if you can name the second largest air force in the world.
 

injinji

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I think this whole thing is about money. I could be wrong but no cheap Energy for Europe is good for the USA it makes its products competitive if the USA gets to dictate the price of liquid gas so its mission accomplished for USA already
But Zero potato. Zero, we were talking about folks putting missiles in Ukraine. Please explain that.
 

injinji

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In every simulation the US Navy has run against zircons the ships were sunk
Zero potato. Zero, so you are saying you don't know the second largest air force in the world? OK, I'll go ahead and tell you. It's the US Navy. A close 2nd to the USAF.
 

hanimmal

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There still are. Like Common sense it seems to be a shrinking asset. I blame Trump. It's made so many Americans so defensive, or its a millennial thing..idk.
Or just the fact that we have had a foreign military attacking our citizens for the better part of a decade.

Always easier to defend than attack especially in large countries like Ukraine but even so Ukraine has done well so far. They have certainly bought more time than Putin would of thought. Perhaps he shouldn't of waited till the Olympics finished and went in a lot earlier. It's interesting that the old supply chain issue for an invading army is still an issue today.
I would have thought it would be 'Perhaps he shouldn't have attacked at all'. But I guess it is all a matter of perspective.

Seven more pages to go in this thread though, so I am sure there is a lot more bullshit posted.
 
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