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DoubleAtotheRON

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KilaWATThours.. you get billed for watts pal not amps.. If you want to talk about efficiency the only efficiency that you get is A220 Volt can run on a smaller gauge wire which causes less resistance on 220 V with the lower amperage so you have better efficiency that way but you will not see it in a negligible way in a negligible way in real life nor on your bill nor anywhere else.
KilaWATThours.. you get billed for watts pal not amps.. If you want to talk about efficiency the only efficiency that you get is A220 Volt can run on a smaller gauge wire which causes less resistance on 220 V with the lower amperage so you have better efficiency that way but in a negligible way in real life nor on your bill nor anywhere else.
Go take a class or something.
 

PJ Diaz

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You will not see any negligible difference and your bill will be exactly the same. But Hey you can run smaller gauge wires with 220 V because the amps are lower so I guess the cost of wiring will be cheaper so there's that.
So the fact that the drivers are more efficient when run at higher voltages means nothing to you, or do you just have a short attention span and/or poor reading comprehension? Perhaps all of the above? I'm betting on the latter.
 

rootforme

Well-Known Member
Go take a class or something.
Yeah okay.. I think you need the class buddy..

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How much will I save on my electric bill if I run my lights on 220 volts?
A quick answer: Probably nothing.

This is a common misunderstanding about how electricity works and how the power companies charge you for it. The point often noted for the money saving argument is that the amperage is half as much when running grow lights on 220 volts instead of 110 volts. This is true but the utility company doesn't charge you for amperage, they charge you for wattage. They bill you in kilowatt-hour units. A kilowatt-hour is 1000 watts of usage for one hour or approximately equals a 1000 watt light running for one hour. There's a nice formula for this: Wattage / Voltage = Amperage. If we plug in the numbers for a 1000 watt sodium grow light, you can see that although the voltage and amperage can change, the wattage always stays the same."

Learn something
 

rootforme

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Dude must have me on ignore, since he won't respond to me. Likely why he doesn't get it, because he hasn't seen the efficiency graphs I posted yet.
I saw the efficiency graphs they have nothing to do with billing. You have less heat so you have greater efficiency but you will not see any negligible difference in your yield or on your bill.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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I saw the efficiency graphs they have nothing to do with billing. You have less heat so you have greater efficiency but you will not see any negligible difference in your yield or on your bill.
So you're saying that if you burn 1000 amps as opposed to 500 that the bill is gonna be the same?
 

rootforme

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So you're saying that if you burn 1000 amps as opposed to 500 that the bill is gonna be the same?
1000 amps @ 110v = 110,000 watts
500 amps @ 220v = 110,000 watts

if the electric company charges .12 per kwh and you ran your equipment for 100 hours then your bill is

12 dollars either way regardless of 220 or 110
 

PJ Diaz

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You will not see any negligible difference and your bill will be exactly the same. But Hey you can run smaller gauge wires with 220 V because the amps are lower so I guess the cost of wiring will be cheaper so there's that.
Oh my gosh dude, did you get kicked in the head as a kid?
Almost at the cat thread stage?
Seems like it. I try to be helpful, but some are just beyond helpless.
 

PJ Diaz

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I saw the efficiency graphs they have nothing to do with billing. You have less heat so you have greater efficiency but you will not see any negligible difference in your yield or on your bill.
Dude, what it means is that you use less AC current to produce the same amount of DC voltage. The simple fact is that the LED driver converts AC to DC more efficiently at higher voltages. Your ego is keeping you dumb.
 

rootforme

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Dude, what it means is that you use less AC current to produce the same amount of DC voltage. The simple fact is that the LED driver converts AC to DC more efficiently at higher voltages. Your ego is keeping you dumb.
But you're not using less current because you're using twice the volts. You guys really don't understand how electricity works. The only reason your light gets more efficient is because with lower amperage you get lower heat which makes it more efficient. 220v @ 5 amps is the same draw as 110v @ 10 amps.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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But you're not using less current because you're using twice the volts. You guys really don't understand how electricity works. The only reason your light gets more efficient is because with lower amperage you get lower heat which makes it more efficient. 220v @ 5 amps is the same draw as 110v @ 10 amps.
OMG!... you almost got it!
 
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