Need some help!!!

crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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beneficials don’t cause infestations because they don’t hurt your plants, they are there in great numbers because something with your medium attracts them. could be fungi from staying too wet or could be unbroken organic material or whatever and they are the natures fix for that situation. are you doing organics by the way?
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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crimsonecho said:
beneficials don’t cause infestations because they don’t hurt your plants, they are there in great numbers because something with your medium attracts them. could be fungi from staying too wet or could be unbroken organic material or whatever and they are the natures fix for that situation. are you doing organics by the way?
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Yeah it’s a organic soil and is watered regularly with recharge and fish emulsion on a biweekly basis.
 
Hiphophippo

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I run a cover crop to help with moisture uptake and to keep everything healthy. I water every four to five days depending on when it feels dry enough thru the pots. I get overly paranoid about pests. I looked up black springtails and it says they are a very common type or species of them. I’m leaning more towards that I’m going to take some ortho home defense an soak a piece of cloth to wipe the top edge of my pots from the top of the soil up to prevent spreading and deplete them.
 
crimsonecho

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and those sprintails and many other bugs are what breakes those organic materials down and makes it available to your plants without them fish emulsion is just fish sitting in the soil. microbes and mites and collembola. thats how your organic soil works. just my 2 cents, you would do better if you don’t kill them.
 
PadawanWarrior

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crimsonecho said:
and those sprintails and many other bugs are what breakes those organic materials down and makes it available to your plants without them fish emulsion is just fish sitting in the soil. microbes and mites and collembola. thats how your organic soil works. just my 2 cents, you would do better if you don’t kill them.
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Exactly.
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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crimsonecho said:
and those sprintails and many other bugs are what breakes those organic materials down and makes it available to your plants without them fish emulsion is just fish sitting in the soil. microbes and mites and collembola. thats how your organic soil works. just my 2 cents, you would do better if you don’t kill them.
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I get that and don’t disagree at all but why do they come to the surface and spread like that if they are there to break down the soil at root level I’m not trying to be a smart ass I’m truly asking
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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Hiphophippo said:
I get that and don’t disagree at all but why do they come to the surface and spread like that if they are there to break down the soil at root level I’m not trying to be a smart ass I’m truly asking
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you water stuff in man the organic material is there they just wanna eat that stuff and poop plant food, i mean if your plants are happy why kill them obviously they’re not hurting anything. if they were you’d know by now with that many of them there :)

really thats just how it works in organic soil these guys are your friends and here are my friends :D
 

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PadawanWarrior

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crimsonecho said:
you water stuff in man the organic material is there they just wanna eat that stuff and poop plant food, i mean if your plants are happy why kill them obviously they’re not hurting anything. if they were you’d know by now with that many of them there :)

really thats just how it works in organic soil these guys are your friends and here are my friends :D
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Predators for the win. I've got rove beetles too. Do you know the mites that are on your leaves?
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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crimsonecho said:
you water stuff in man the organic material is there they just wanna eat that stuff and poop plant food, i mean if your plants are happy why kill them obviously they’re not hurting anything. if they were you’d know by now with that many of them there :)

really thats just how it works in organic soil these guys are your friends and here are my friends :D
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Okay maybe I’ll hold off on doing anymore I did a light peroxide spray on the areas I seen like the picture I posted that was before we conversed but haven’t gone wild yet. I have the weapons on standby for now we are going to def con 4 for now sit back and observe thanks guys I appreciate the help. The cover crop will let me know if they are going to be a issue. This is my first run in this new soil and just has me on edge.
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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Hiphophippo said:
Okay maybe I’ll hold off on doing anymore I did a light peroxide spray on the areas I seen like the picture I posted that was before we conversed but haven’t gone wild yet. I have the weapons on standby for now we are going to def con 4 for now sit back and observe thanks guys I appreciate the help. The cover crop will let me know if they are going to be a issue. This is my first run in this new soil and just has me on edge.
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how are the plants looking? fine right? don’t panic over nothing i know its kinda scary to see bugs in your soil if you’re doing hydro with coco or salt based nutrients but a good sign in organics it means the soil is alive as it should be.
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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crimsonecho said:
how are the plants looking? fine right? don’t panic over nothing i know its kinda scary to see bugs in your soil if you’re doing hydro with coco or salt based nutrients but a good sign in organics it means the soil is alive as it should be.
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You’re right I think I just freaked out because I had to defeat a gnat army last year and it almost drove me to be committed. It’s been a learning curve about the insects and microbial life being in my soil
 
crimsonecho

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Hiphophippo said:
You’re right I think I just freaked out because I had to defeat a gnat army last year and it almost drove me to be committed. It’s been a learning curve about the insects and microbial life being in my soil
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yeah don’t sweat it even biologists can identify like 1% of those guys :)
also the guys i posted, hypoaspis miles, gnat killer. got a room full of organic soil and an ewc bin but not one gnat around. yeah maybe 1 hahaha. so when you kill the bennies bad guys fill the void. thats the balance. they eat fungi and when you killl them some form of fungi can grow out of control and cause problems. there are many pathogenic fungi that grows in soil and causes bud rot etc by the spores. this is all a balance.
 
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